Re: the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper

2016-01-24 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 01/24/2016 06:53 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > > > Yes – ESPN website – Video is for Women in Computing in 1940’s and > specifically > the Queen of Coding – Adm. Grace Hoper. > > http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12205119 > > > > 16 ½ minutes. Very interesting history of computers. > > >

the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper

2016-01-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
Yes – ESPN website – Video is for Women in Computing in 1940’s and specifically the Queen of Coding – Adm. Grace Hoper. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12205119 16 ½ minutes. Very interesting history of computers. Lizette Koehler statistics: A precise and logical method for stating

Re: the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper

2016-01-24 Thread Charles Mills
Nope. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 8:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper At 17:53 -0700 on 01/24/2016,

Re: the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper

2016-01-24 Thread Ed Finnell
Chicken fried moth between the vacuum tubes. In a message dated 1/24/2016 11:43:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, charl...@mcn.org writes: Nope. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper

2016-01-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I always thought it was a relay. -teD   Original Message   From: Ed Finnell Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 01:17 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper Chicken fried moth between the vacuum tubes. In a message

Re: the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper

2016-01-24 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 21:01 -0600 on 01/24/2016, Joel C. Ewing wrote about Re: the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper: I can't remember the exact way she worded it, but the other memorable bit of wisdom was that she had successfully managed to accomplish so much, despite government and military proclivity for

Re: the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper

2016-01-24 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 17:53 -0700 on 01/24/2016, Lizette Koehler wrote about the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper: Yes ­ ESPN website ­ Video is for Women in Computing in 1940¹s and specifically the Queen of Coding ­ Adm. Grace Hoper. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12205119 16 1Ž2 minutes. Very

Re: the Queen of Coding - Adm. Grace Hoper

2016-01-24 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Lizette Koehler wrote: Yes – ESPN website – Video is for Women in Computing in 1940’s and specifically the Queen of Coding – Adm. Grace Hoper. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12205119 Very sweet albeit distant gaze backwards through the glass darkly. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is

Re: Lineage of TPF

2016-01-24 Thread Phil Smith III
Gregg wrote: >ACP/TPF/zTPF on silicon/in LPar is one thing, as a guest on VM (test) is >something other. No? Um. No? Yes? Maybe? Are you saying that it has a different lineage when run under z/VM? Then "No". That certain operational characteristics will vary? Sure. But

Re: MVS operator command issue

2016-01-24 Thread Charles Mills
It can be done but it is not easy. You don't actually need the front end (I think -- more familiar with C than COBOL). But it is not "supported." S122's are "unrecoverable." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: MVS operator command issue

2016-01-24 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Not Sure if this will work, but try adding the main program to PPT (schedxx in parmlib) with NOCANCEL attribute. I wonder what will make the stc shutdown, may be a record read from SP231 (stop run, may be)? Best, ITschak ITschak Mugzach Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk

MVS operator command issue

2016-01-24 Thread Scott Ford
All: I have a scenario i would like to explain ... 1. Cobol STC , uses assembler module to read records that are placed in SP 231. The data is persistent. This data is read into a secondary index for dup checking. My issue is if someone issues a 'C stcname' the the customer can loose data.

Re: MVS operator command issue

2016-01-24 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I think the intent was to protect from cancel by mistake. I believe that cancel is the way they stop the stc as well. This is why i proposed to have a special record read from storage to stop the stc. Best, ITschak ITschak Mugzach Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments

Re: MVS operator command issue

2016-01-24 Thread Rob Schramm
Restrict access to cancel the task and use automation to do the commands. On Sun, Jan 24, 2016, 3:36 PM Itschak Mugzach wrote: > I think the intent was to protect from cancel by mistake. I believe that > cancel is the way they stop the stc as well. This is why i proposed to

Re: ShopZ

2016-01-24 Thread Steve Beaver
Thanks Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 12:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ShopZ A quick search internet search came up with this. See if it can

Re: Lineage of TPF

2016-01-24 Thread Ed Finnell
As Lynn mentioned there were hardware mods for ACP/TPF to the 3081, 3083 and 3090's. They were given new numbers 9081,9083 and of course 9190? I guess shorter path lengths and such but couldn't find any details after a short search. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IBM_products In

Re: MVS operator command issue

2016-01-24 Thread Andy Wood
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:55:16 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >It can be done but it is not easy. You don't actually need the front end (I >think -- more familiar with C than COBOL). But it is not "supported." S122's >are "unrecoverable." > I have no idea about either C or Cobol,

Re: MVS operator command issue

2016-01-24 Thread Rob Schramm
Marking it non cancellable will prevent the normal cancel. But will not stop the force arm. On Sun, Jan 24, 2016, 3:26 PM Andy Wood wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:55:16 -0800, Charles Mills > wrote: > > >It can be done but it is not easy. You don't

Re: MVS operator command issue

2016-01-24 Thread Scott Ford
ITschak yes and I don't want to loose the secondary index, I thought if I intercepted the S222 then I could save the secondary index to disk and then come down normally, I am not sure this is why I posted the question.. Scott On Sunday, January 24, 2016, Itschak Mugzach

Re: MVS operator command issue

2016-01-24 Thread Itschak Mugzach
It is my understanding that the main program is Cobol... ITschak ITschak Mugzach Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments Professional On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:42 PM, Rob Schramm wrote: > Or write an auth routine to flip the non cancel bit off. >

Re: MVS operator command issue

2016-01-24 Thread Scott Ford
Rob, Great ! Ty sir Scott On Sunday, January 24, 2016, Rob Schramm wrote: > Or write an auth routine to flip the non cancel bit off. > > Change the code and add the Stop command as the proper way to shut it > down. Example on planetmvs > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016, 3:38 PM

Re: Lineage of TPF

2016-01-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Ed Finnell) writes: > As Lynn mentioned there were hardware mods for ACP/TPF to the 3081, 3083 > and 3090's. They were given new numbers 9081,9083 and of course 9190? I guess > shorter path lengths and such but couldn't find any details after a

Re: MVS operator command issue

2016-01-24 Thread Scott Ford
ITchalk, Yes sir On Sunday, January 24, 2016, Scott Ford wrote: > Rob, > > Great ! Ty sir > > Scott > > On Sunday, January 24, 2016, Rob Schramm > wrote: > >> Or write an auth routine to flip

ShopZ

2016-01-24 Thread Steve Beaver
Is anyone aware of a document that teaches/describes the how to use ShopZ that I can give to someone that has Never done SHopZ. Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: ShopZ

2016-01-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
A quick search internet search came up with this. See if it can help from the IBM web site User guide, tutorials, etc. http://www-304.ibm.com/software/shopzseries/ShopzSeries_public.wss Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: z/OS 2.2 3270 OMVS ssh masks passwords!

2016-01-24 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 1/23/2016 at 01:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Data point: Under 3270 OMVS, the "su" command properly masks the password. > I wonder how it does that? Probably the same way the Linux 3270 console driver does it. It knows enough to set

Re: Man Versus System

2016-01-24 Thread Scott Ford
Guys, Great articles, I learned BAL on a BPS360/20... Brings back a lot of memories.. Scott On Friday, January 22, 2016, Ed Finnell < 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Not nearly as unhappy as the Ops Mgr that found out they had replied "u" > all 1000 times. > > > In a

Re: z/OS 2.2 3270 OMVS ssh masks passwords!

2016-01-24 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Mark Post wrote: Probably the same way the Linux 3270 console driver does it. It knows enough to set the attribute byte for the field to be non-display. Attended an IBM official SNA course in Phoenix in April, 1998 with a retired-and-back-to-consult IBM'er. He pointed out, "When you enter a