Re: Error ICE007A on ICETOOL OMIT sentence

2016-02-07 Thread Hilario Garcia
Hello, On book "Application Programmer Guide" appear the text: "You can specify either an INCLUDE statement or an OMIT statement in the same DFSORT run, but not both". I read that before, but this is not really truth. Dfsort run correctly if I write an INCLUDE and an OMIT like this examples:

COBOL Code Gened for MOVE COMP-3 S9(9) to S9(8)

2016-02-07 Thread Bill Woodger
Yes, your interpretation is what I meant. I was thinking the "branch prediction" would sort that out, but, probably unreasonably, that thought assumes that most programmers make their definitions large enough (and not overly large) to not have overflow, although on the other hand even doing it

Re: Java (was: DFSORT - SMF Records - GMT To EST)

2016-02-07 Thread Scott Chapman
On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 16:02:52 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: >I doubt that there is a significant difference in CPU resources between >running the JVM in JZOS vs BPXBATC**. I was surprised too. >Perhaps the differences that you are seeing have to do with not measuring >all of the

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-07 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-02-05 o 21:00, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: Lester, Bob wrote: Commodore 64 anyone? :-) Spectrum 48k, Commodore 64, Atari 64XE, Atari 800XL The best machine was Amstrad CPC 6128 and I would challenge everyone who do not agree. Swords, sabres, joysticks - what you

The boundaries of the 64-bit LocalSystemArea

2016-02-07 Thread Giliad Wilf
Page 459 of the publication http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247946.pdf on paragraph "21.1.2 Local system area" says:=== Quote ===Note: A keyword has been added to the IARV64 REQUEST=GETSTOR, LOCALSYSAREA=NO|YES, to indicate that the memory object is to be allocated from the system

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:00:47 -0800, Tom Brennan wrote: > >I'm currently trying to write up some notes for some (possible) new >mainframers who already know unix, and this is one of my comparisons: > >Unix Style: > >cat /etc/passwd | grep ^ted013: | awk -F':' '{print $3}' >... >JCL Style: >

kIM-1....

2016-02-07 Thread David Boyes
> > > > MOS Technology produced the KIM-1 (Keyboard Input Monitor) evaluation board > for the 6502. > It included a 6 digit,7-segment LED display, and a hex keypad, as well as a > teletype interface > and an audio cassette interface for storing and retrieving data. It had 2K of > ROM with

Re: COBOL Code Gened for MOVE COMP-3 S9(9) to S9(8)

2016-02-07 Thread Clark Morris
On 6 Feb 2016 17:30:16 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Posting this to replace a post I made, by accident only in the >google-something part of the list. Some editing, and additional examples. > >MOVE PICS9-9 TO PICS9-8 >D204 3010 3028 MVC 16(5,3),40(3) PICS9-8 PICS9-9

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-07 Thread Tom Brennan
Yep - I'm hoping they'll like the batch facilities in MVS which in my opinion are far beyond unix. This might be a spot where a history lesson is needed, but I wasn't around in the early days: From what I've read, MVS started with nothing but batch jobs and later grew into online systems.

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-07 Thread Graham Harris
Tom Brennan wrote > > cron tasks will be a problem I think, since a non-priviledged user can > setup their own private "autocommands" on unix. Not so on the mainframe. > But from what I've seen, unix people tend to want cron tasks because they > are polling for data, which needs to be

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z ...

2016-02-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-02-07, at 08:38, R.S. wrote: > > ... nowadays I play with other kind of CPC's. You know the games: Power On > Reset, Load, LPAR profile Customization, Load From Removable Media, etc. No > Tetris, no Boulder Dash. > (Topic drift on recreation) I found a fun Mandelbrot set viewer at:

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z ...

2016-02-07 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul Gilmartin) writes: > (Topic drift on recreation) I found a fun Mandelbrot set viewer at: other IBM Mandelbrot drift ... In the 80s, Mandelbrot resigned from IBM Research in protest over the elimination of research.

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z ...

2016-02-07 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: Mandelbrot left IBM in 1987, after 35 years and 12 days, when IBM decided to end pure research in his division. When I was a contractor at IBM early in the Gerstner era, I had a not very intellectual but very funny, practical and effective "lifer" IBM manager. One

COBOL Code Gened for MOVE COMP-3 S9(9) to S9(8)

2016-02-07 Thread Bill Woodger
I should have included the definitions, not just described them. There are no decimal places, it is just two eight-digit integers, and two nine-digit integers: 01 PICS9-8 COMP-3 PIC S9(8). 01 PICS9-8-2 COMP-3 PIC S9(8). 01 PICS9-9 COMP-3

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-07 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
t...@tombrennansoftware.com (Tom Brennan) writes: > Yep - I'm hoping they'll like the batch facilities in MVS which in my > opinion are far beyond unix. This might be a spot where a history > lesson is needed, but I wasn't around in the early days: > > From what I've read, MVS started with

Re: IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-07 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
harris...@gmail.com (Graham Harris) writes: > Doesn't deadline scheduling count? as undergraduate in the 60s, I did dynamic adaptive resource management that was picked up and shipped in CP/67 (customers periodically referred to as fairshare scheduler or wheeler scheduler because default policy

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-07 Thread Chris Hoelscher
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