Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

2016-07-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 Jul 2016 23:18:15 +, J R wrote: >That just gives me a tax break. I still have to pay for the service. > >> On Jul 4, 2016, at 18:42, Edward Finnell wrote: >> >> 634-5789? Actually, put them in business expense column and declare on >> itemized deductions. >> I thought

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

2016-07-04 Thread J R
That just gives me a tax break. I still have to pay for the service. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2016, at 18:42, Edward Finnell > <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > 634-5789? Actually, put them in business expense column and declare on > itemized deductions.

Re: Where is format of Job ID documented?

2016-07-04 Thread Charles Mills
Interesting. Thanks. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 3:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where is format of Job ID documented? On 6/15/2016 1:38 PM, Charles

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

2016-07-04 Thread Edward Finnell
634-5789? Actually, put them in business expense column and declare on itemized deductions. In a message dated 7/4/2016 5:09:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jayare...@hotmail.com writes: do you have an account number I can bill it to?

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

2016-07-04 Thread J R
Edward, do you have an account number I can bill it to? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2016, at 17:42, Edward Finnell > <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Since they're loose leaf(mostly) any 'office products' store can convert > them in a matter of minutes. Don't

Re: Where is format of Job ID documented?

2016-07-04 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/15/2016 1:38 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Yeah, I know, JOBn or Tnnn. Is there a formal description somewhere? Where? The reason the jobid is not documented is that it can be anything. Literally any values can be specified on the JOBNAME=, JOBID=, and USERID= keywords of the

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

2016-07-04 Thread Edward Finnell
Since they're loose leaf(mostly) any 'office products' store can convert them in a matter of minutes. Don't have to do all at once, maybe just when you need paper or toner? http://www.pbs.org/a-capitol-fourth/home/ In a message dated 7/4/2016 4:31:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

2016-07-04 Thread J R
Yes, I will as soon as I get around to taking inventory. So far I've only tossed out duplicates. My intention was to scan everything, but that's very labor-intensive without specialized equipment. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2016, at 16:16, Mike Schwab wrote:

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

2016-07-04 Thread Mike Schwab
Bit savers would be interested in scans of old manuals. Can you give them a list of what manuals you have? On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 8:03 PM, J R wrote: > " > We programmers just tend to be highly nervous packrats, and we should > probably get over it. " > > Guilty as

Re: TSO TEST and SYSOUTTRAP/SYSOUTLINE

2016-07-04 Thread Bill Godfrey
The clist in my first post was run on z/OS 2.2. The 4-character string "amp:" if present, is an artifact of the listserv web interface and should not be in the clist. The clist has also run on MVS 3.8, without the TSOEXEC in front of TEST and with different SUBSTR columns as shown in comments in

Re: Short description of system address spaces

2016-07-04 Thread Boris Lenz
See "ABCs of IBM z/OS System Programming Volume 1", page 307 (323) http://ibm.co/29l4I7T Regards, Boris On Mon, July 4, 2016 07:33, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > > The z/OS Basics redbook that Mike pointed to is indeed a known good > starting point. But it does not have a list of these adrdress

Re: TSO TEST and SYSOUTTRAP/SYSOUTLINE

2016-07-04 Thread Joseph Reichman
What version of z/OS MVS was this code run I think Rupert Reynolds mentioned in a earlier Post on this thread that capturing TEST output is different then when he tried it in the early 90's > On Jul 4, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Bill Godfrey wrote: > > Here's an example of

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

2016-07-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 3 July 2016 at 18:35, Charles Mills wrote: > I can understand the move away from BookManager (as much as some of us loved > it). It was a proprietary > technology and I am sure expensive to maintain. I bet if IBM open-sourced Book Manager, or at least the ,BOO data formats,

Knowledge Center Feedback and direction

2016-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Cross Posting to IBM Main, IMS, DB2, and CICS. Since there seems to be some discourse on this topic, I thought I would provide some information on KC from a Share Session. Below is a snippet from that presentation. Yes, this is before the CHANGE that occurred recently. So some of the

Re: TSO TEST and SYSOUTTRAP/SYSOUTLINE

2016-07-04 Thread Bill Godfrey
Here's an example of capturing TEST output into CLIST variables. TSOEXEC TEST 'SYS1.LINKLIB(IEFBR14)' SET SYSOUTTRAP = 10 LIST 10.%+38 /* CVTDATE */ SET SYSOUTTRAP = 0 SET LINE = (&SYSOUTLINE1) SET DOY = (16:18,) /* 14:16 ON MVS 3.8 */ SET YYY = (13:15,) /* 11:13 ON MVS 3.8 */ SET YEAR =

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
The answer to your question is in your xx TB dasd park when you have a handful of 3390-54's filled for 1%? - probably none. With virtual storage arrays for Disk, only what is used, is allocated to the Volser. Say you have a MOD54 defined. But only 1% used. Then there is only 1%

Re: DFHSM CDS backup versions

2016-07-04 Thread Vince Getgood
Thanks guys, Sorry for the lack of response on my part. We moved offices and datacentres at the weekend, and our DS600o that holds all our z/OS & z/VM systems didn't power-up... I've been busier than a one legged man in an Ar** kicking contest... Can you say "thank god for tape backups"? Once

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-04 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
We create as much 3390-54's as possible. We have some smaller volumes only because they were converted as is from ESS's. And we have some 3390-3 and 3390-1 for JES checkpoint and catalogs, but with the current GDPS requirement to eliminate all Reserves, I think it would not be a problem to

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

2016-07-04 Thread Jantje.
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 09:57:04 +0100, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: >I'm curious about other people's views. > My view is: "KC s...s". Sorry to be so blunt. I have ranted about this before, but I am feeling more and more frustrated every time I have to use

Re: IBM Knowledge Centre

2016-07-04 Thread Cannaerts, Jan
Charles Mills wrote: >There must be some members here under thirty. Hi, 24. >Do YOU like Knowledge Center? After I found out that the top left button opens the drop down menu of old, I stopped thinking it was completely worthless. It still makes very poor use of screen estate, 4:3 is ancient.

Re: Short description of system address spaces

2016-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Also, check out this link (search words: order of tasks at ipl for ibm mainframe ) http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/administrator/security/RACF,-Started-Task s-and-System-Privileges/ The Tasks System-related tasks are the minimum needed to keep your z/OS installation ticking along. A

Re: Short description of system address spaces

2016-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
The list may contain products you do not run at your shop. I am sure automation tools may have some documentation on your list. But how you identify CICS, IMS, DB2, etc... STCs, may make the list different for you and not correlate to other shops. It might be best to use your names for those