Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Charles Mills
Oh sure, anything you can do in an STC you can do in a batch job (security, etc., permitting). Just clone the JCL, slap a job card on it, and submit it. Repeat until you get it right. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Peter
Hi, Thanks for the reply. In our environment the STARTED TASK class are not active. So the STC was failing with access violation. So figured out the way to run with my ID until the STC access gets fixed. Peter On Nov 26, 2016 5:39 AM, "Jesse 1 Robinson" wrote: > I

Re: Compiled Rexx Question

2016-11-25 Thread scott Ford
Charles, Long time no talk to I was wondering if I could compile the rexx clist or program and link it and then make a call from another language , i.e.; Cobol or Assembler. Based on what you said it looks like I can ..I thinking about building the Rexx Interface driver to handle the calls.

Re: Compiled Rexx Question

2016-11-25 Thread Mike Schwab
In some cases, compiled REXX performs slower than interpreted REXX. This is because the variable have to be created with each call, and destroyed upon return.. On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:53 PM, scott Ford wrote: > All: > > Has anyone compile a Rexx clist with arguments...then

Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I had to look up IEFJOBS. That’s the DD name in MSTJCLxx started tasks with job cards. In our case, IEFJOBS points to SYS1.STCJOBS. Installation defined. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile

Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Bill Ashton
You can also add a job to the IEFJOBS file if you have it defined, and you can then have a Started Job. On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > For CICS, yes it can run as a started job. > > CA-Datacom can run as a job too. > > Whatever you want to do, try

Re: Compiled Rexx Question

2016-11-25 Thread scott Ford
Steve, No problem Scott On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: > Sorry, I read your initial post backwards -- REXX calling COBOL. > > So far I haven't called REXX from COBOL. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 25, 2016, at 3:15 PM, scott Ford

Re: Compiled Rexx Question

2016-11-25 Thread Charles Mills
@Scott, there are two ways to compile Rexx: in one you end up with something that behaves like "normal" Rexx, but performs a little better in you have the library licensed* on the target machine. I am not familiar with that beyond the sentence I just wrote. The other way produces object code that

Re: Compiled Rexx Question

2016-11-25 Thread Steve Thompson
Sorry, I read your initial post backwards -- REXX calling COBOL. So far I haven't called REXX from COBOL. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 25, 2016, at 3:15 PM, scott Ford wrote: > > Steve: > > Do you call IRXJCL or IRXEXEC ? > > Scott > >> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 3:01

Re: Compiled Rexx Question

2016-11-25 Thread scott Ford
Steve: Do you call IRXJCL or IRXEXEC ? Scott On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: > I do it with uncompiled REXX. > > COBOL : define the variables in the LINKAGE SECTION. > > PROCEDURE DIVISION USING xxx, etc. > > I use display type values and let

Re: Compiled Rexx Question

2016-11-25 Thread Steve Thompson
I do it with uncompiled REXX. COBOL : define the variables in the LINKAGE SECTION. PROCEDURE DIVISION USING xxx, etc. I use display type values and let COBOL manipulate them as needed. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 25, 2016, at 1:53 PM, scott Ford wrote: > >

Re: A true discussion in today's world (at least here)

2016-11-25 Thread scott Ford
Guys, I totally agree , and as you get older you see more issues like you both mentioned. Scott On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > (It's Friday.) All analogies fail because no two things are alike. OTOH an > analogy may help someone understand

Compiled Rexx Question

2016-11-25 Thread scott Ford
All: Has anyone compile a Rexx clist with arguments...then called it from Cobol as 'call x using ' ? If so where do i find info on how to do this ? Scott -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
For CICS, yes it can run as a started job. CA-Datacom can run as a job too. Whatever you want to do, try itWrap a job card around the STC or use an instream proc with a job card and see what happens. On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 4:59 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > >Is it possible

Re: zIIP Processor availability Display

2016-11-25 Thread Carlos Cordero
Peter, you´re right.. I get the info from RMF monitor about zIIP usage. Thanks De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List en nombre de Peter Hunkeler Enviado: viernes, 25 de noviembre de 2016 12:41 a. m. Para:

Re: HSM question

2016-11-25 Thread Gibney, Dave
Run a list of your assigned tapes. Recycle any that are not marked full. They were created before you got the setting correct. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016

AW: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Is it possible to invoke a STC by submitting a batch Job ? If so will it just run by adding Job card ? >From the few answers so far I think it becomes clear more detail is needed on >what you want to achieve. -- Peter Hunkeler

AW: Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>STCs and Jobs are different MVS "units of work." Your question is analogous to >asking "is it possible for a dog to be a cat?" No, it is not. Once the program runs, there is little difference left. In your analogy, I'd say a dog stays a dog. The difference is whether it can get immediate

Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
For a long time, it was customary for CICS folks to run their regions as batch jobs. Justification focused on handling of JES message data sets, which benefited from much more flexibility in batch than as STC. The answer is, as mentioned, STCJOBS, which allows an actual started task to specify

Re: (External):Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
. . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles

Re: A true discussion in today's world (at least here)

2016-11-25 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
(It's Friday.) All analogies fail because no two things are alike. OTOH an analogy may help someone understand an issue by drawing (an imperfect) parallel to something else a person may be more familiar with. Or it may be used as a tool to persuade someone to take action in a realm where they

Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Charles Mills
STCs and Jobs are different MVS "units of work." Your question is analogous to asking "is it possible for a dog to be a cat?" No, it is not. But you can train a dog to catch mice. You can train a cat to fetch a ball. What aspect of an STC would you like in batch? Or, what aspect of batch would

Re: zIIP Processor availability Display

2016-11-25 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Display config (D M) commands will show whether and how many zIIPs are online to an LPAR. They will not tell you, however, how much if any actual usage there is. We assign zIIPs to each LPAR that runs software capable of using zIIP MSUs. From what I've heard, if nothing in an LPAR is likely to

AW: Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Look up STCJOBS (I forget which manual). > >It was superficially developed so that you can run an STC specifying a >jobcard to pass for example accounting information. This is still an STC not a job. but, yes, it may serve the OPs needs. -- Peter Hunkeler

Re: zIIP Processor availability Display

2016-11-25 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 11/24/2016 8:12 PM, Roger Lowe wrote: D M=CPU Or 'D M=CORE' on the latest hardware with SMT support active. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Field, Alan
Look up STCJOBS (I forget which manual). It was superficially developed so that you can run an STC specifying a jobcard to pass for example accounting information. Alan Field Systems Engineer Principal Blue Cross Blue Shield of MN 651.662.3546 -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: A true discussion in today's world (at least here)

2016-11-25 Thread Greg Shirey
Personally, I think the analogy is quite appropriate and I appreciate Skip sharing it. I’m sure most analogies, “in some circumstances” can be proven to fail, but car maintenance is a fairly typical consideration for most people in the US. If you live in an area with a dense population that

AW: Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Peter Hunkeler
​>Can you run an STC as a batch job? Most of the time you can simply by >putting the proper JOB card ​in front of it: > >//STCNAME JOB (ACCT),'RUN STCNAME',CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=X >//STCNAME EXEC PROC=STCNAME >// > > >However, this will _NOT_ work properly if the STC is a single step STC

Interesting economic post on LinkedIn

2016-11-25 Thread John McKown
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/want-success-think-long-term-take-risks-sir-martin-sorrell This addresses part of what we've discussed around here in "stay out of my sever room" thread. I especially liked: [quote] This cocktail of pressures is not conducive to long-term strategic thinking, and

Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:00 AM, Peter wrote: > Hi > > Is it possible to invoke a STC by submitting a batch Job ? If so will it > just run by adding Job card ? I am sorry for being ignorant. Any > suggestions would help. > > Peter > > ​What we do to start an STC using a

Re: STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Strange question: an STC is JCL that is started with a START command, a batch job is JCL that is submitted by submitting a batch job. What are you looking for? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: 25

STC as batch

2016-11-25 Thread Peter
Hi Is it possible to invoke a STC by submitting a batch Job ? If so will it just run by adding Job card ? I am sorry for being ignorant. Any suggestions would help. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

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2016-11-25 Thread Sean Gleann
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