How does ABO report its outcome? (was: Migrating Cobol)

2017-03-26 Thread Peter Hunkeler
To help search engines: ABO = Automatic Binary Optimizer >We haven't set off down the yellow-brick ABO road, so it's hard to gauge how >much angst we'll actually have to overcome. I'm pretty sure it won't be >trivial. I haven't seen ABO in action yet. Is there a listing that relates the

Re: Migrating Cobol

2017-03-26 Thread Edward Gould
> On Mar 26, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Bill Woodger wrote: > > Danger of this becoming another ABO thread in disguise :-) > > The question of the testing of ABO is not entirely cultural, or not > necessarily so. Nor necessarily "compliance". There can be a technical basis >

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-26 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
idfli...@gmail.com (scott Ford) writes: > Bravo Phil and Tim from IBM. In my experience with NYC Stock Exchange > and too many Brokerage houses to count, all of these installations had > very tight internal/ external security. Including multiple firewalls > to enter the MF domains. Once in the MF

Re: Help deleting file

2017-03-26 Thread Joseph Reichman
Lizette Thanks for your help with JES2 I got my SPOOL and CHKPNT data set off a system pack and put them om work Pack thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 6:01 PM To:

Re: Help deleting file

2017-03-26 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thank you -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 6:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Help deleting file Using 3.4 you can search the catalog (no volser) or volumes

Re: Help deleting file

2017-03-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
Using 3.4 you can search the catalog (no volser) or volumes (complete or partial volser) If your dataset is cataloged but incorrectly Go to TSO READY PROMPT Delete 'dsn' NOSCRATCH NOPURGE <--- This uncatalogs the dataset DELETE 'dsn' <--- this deletes the catalog entry Then issue

Re: Help deleting file

2017-03-26 Thread Joseph Reichman
I was able to uncatalog But not catalog Maybe the entry was just in the catalog and didn't Exist Subsqently I allocated it Thank you very much > On Mar 26, 2017, at 5:37 PM, Binyamin Dissen > wrote: > > Uncatalog/recatalog > > On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 17:27:29

Re: Help deleting file

2017-03-26 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Uncatalog/recatalog On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 17:27:29 -0400 Joseph Reichman wrote: :>Hi :> :>I'm getting a 213-04 abend on my ispf profile :>Dataset :> :>It's seems to be a catch-22 where I can't delete :>As the system cannot find it :> :>And I cannot allocate because the

Help deleting file

2017-03-26 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi I'm getting a 213-04 abend on my ispf profile Dataset It's seems to be a catch-22 where I can't delete As the system cannot find it And I cannot allocate because the system says it's a duplicate dataset Doing a 3.4 I can see what pack it's on

Re: ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches

2017-03-26 Thread scott Ford
Bravo Phil and Tim from IBM. In my experience with NYC Stock Exchange and too many Brokerage houses to count, all of these installations had very tight internal/ external security. Including multiple firewalls to enter the MF domains. Once in the MF domain, the security subsystem was tightly

Re: Migrating Cobol

2017-03-26 Thread Bill Woodger
Danger of this becoming another ABO thread in disguise :-) The question of the testing of ABO is not entirely cultural, or not necessarily so. Nor necessarily "compliance". There can be a technical basis on which to make decisions, which cultural and compliance issues may make moot. I'm keen to

Re: Migrating Cobol

2017-03-26 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
The question of 'how much testing with ABO' is entirely cultural. No technical expert can provide an answer satisfactory to all. At one end, you can argue for minimal testing because application code has not changed, only the executables. How many shops insist on extensive testing for updates

Re: Migrating Cobol

2017-03-26 Thread Bill Woodger
If you have very large programs and you want to optimise them to Level 1 or Level 2, then Enterprise COBOL V6.1 is your best bet. The optimiszer was re-written with 64-bit addressing and is now much more comfortable with large programs (which may just fail to compile with V5.2). V6.1 is now

Re: Migrating Cobol

2017-03-26 Thread Dan Little
I don't think you can order 5.2 any more. I recommend 6.1 especially if you have large programs as the compiler is 64-bit and can compile much larger programs. Dan On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 08:28 Charles Mills wrote: > My *impression* is that many are skipping 5 and going

Re: Migrating Cobol

2017-03-26 Thread Charles Mills
My *impression* is that many are skipping 5 and going straight to 6.1. CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity. Original message From: James Wellingtin Date: 3/26/17 7:46 AM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Migrating

Re: Migrating Cobol

2017-03-26 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
...contact me. We've done it a number if times. Mitch Mitch Mccluhan mitc...@aol.com On Sunday, March 26, 2017 James Wellingtin wrote: Hey I have posted this to the cicslist , and someone there asked me to post it to this group as well for feedbackj We are very

Migrating Cobol

2017-03-26 Thread James Wellingtin
Hey I have posted this to the cicslist , and someone there asked me to post it to this group as well for feedbackj We are very soon to migrate from COBOL ENT V4.2.0 to either Cobol 5.2. or 6.1 Do anybody have made any experience in doing that Have you experienced any problem ? Please describe