Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-26 Thread David Crayford
Why does your application have to be deployed in Liberty? What's wrong with a free, open source servlet container? I noticed that the API mediation layer in Zowe is a Spring Boot application. Spring Boot has to be the most popular Java web framework right now especially for REST APIs,

Re: Why Salesforce for SR?

2018-09-26 Thread zMan
Word on the street is IBM is moving off of RETAIN entirely. Get used to salesforce... On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 7:45 PM Clark Morris wrote: > Since Salesforce isn't owned by IBM why is what could be something > requiring potential decent degree of confidentiality such as Service > Request when

Re: Why Salesforce for SR?

2018-09-26 Thread Charles Mills
I don't have a dog in this fight. IBM can use dBase III to store their data for all I care. I don't own Salesforce stock. But I would assume that every company that uses Salesforce considers their data to be super confidential. What could a company consider more confidential than sales leads,

Why Salesforce for SR?

2018-09-26 Thread Clark Morris
Since Salesforce isn't owned by IBM why is what could be something requiring potential decent degree of confidentiality such as Service Request when dumps are involved being migrated there? Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Annoying sign in button for SR

2018-09-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
What I have done is go through the Signon Process Then use the Back Page at the top and find my entry I had started on. I usually can save my details by going back one or two pages It seems that I only have 5 mins before I am timed out. I have sent in an SR HELP DESK REQUEST. Maybe if we all

Re: DISA STIG and permission/audit bits

2018-09-26 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/26/2018 9:33 AM, Larre Shiller wrote: As part of a recent audit, we have been goaded into updating the permission and/or audit bits on certain Unix directories per the DISA STIG (which we use as our risk model). Those directories include many that are shipped by IBM and it's a fair bit

Re: DFHSM options for dataset back-up

2018-09-26 Thread Gibney, Dave
Unfortunately for me, we discontinued my Resolve for zService subscription with the migration to MFaaS. I admit I haven't tried to enter a SR recently (my IBM id is still good), but I think I'd need to go through our host's service account. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe

Re: DFHSM options for dataset back-up

2018-09-26 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/26/2018 10:21 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote: Since moving to MFaaS, my ibmlink access is reduced. This hasn't got anything to do with IBMLink. ETR disappeared a while back. This complaint is about Service Request, which is transitioning to Salesforce... -- Phoenix Software International

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-26 Thread scott Ford
Matt, Yes sir as far as I know. Scott On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:06 PM Matt Hogstrom wrote: > z/OSMF has services that enable TSO services … your App is in Java and you > want to host it in a Liberty container ? > > > > Matt Hogstrom > m...@hogstrom.org > +1-919-656-0564 > PGP Key: 0x90ECB270

Take out the garbage

2018-09-26 Thread Steve Smith
It's bad enough we have to see the useless crap appended to emails from all the silly-ass companies that do it, but now we have to deal with URL vandalism by Microsoft and Cisco. Recent posts show some links wrapped by one, and then re-wrapped by the other. Take a second and delete all that junk

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Charles Mills
I don't know but it would seem not, wouldn't it? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 11:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ECB in XMEM Post Is that

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-26 Thread Matt Hogstrom
z/OSMF has services that enable TSO services … your App is in Java and you want to host it in a Liberty container ? Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 I just read a book on Stockholm Syndrome, it was pretty bad at first, but, by the end I kind of liked it. >

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
Is that true for address spaces with non-reusable ASIDs? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 12:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
Pageable should not be a problem. If the ECB is in a swappable address space, that could be a problem. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Joseph Reichman Sent: Wednesday,

Re: DISA STIG and permission/audit bits

2018-09-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
Have you discussed with your auditors the risks associated with changing the permission bits set by the product and service installs? Compliance with the STIG could conceivably break something, and denial of service is itself a security violation. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: TSO RENAME broke?

2018-09-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
ObNit; okay, a wrapper for IDCAMS ALTER NEWNAME -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tony Harminc Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 1:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject:

Re: Annoying sign in button for SR

2018-09-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 13:09:05 -0400, Tom Conley wrote: >On 9/26/2018 12:53 PM, Jousma, David wrote: >> Yes, along with what seems to be about a 15 minute timeout. I've had SR's >> open keyed in lengthy update, only to press submit, and get sent to the >> logon screen again, and my updates

Re: [EXTERNAL] DISA STIG and permission/audit bits

2018-09-26 Thread Larre Shiller
Yeah... I know. That being said... perhaps the READ ONLY option is something that we can try. Thanks for making that suggestion. Larre There is no way in that I'd be messing with permissions bits on anything IBM provided. We do mount all of that READ only however so that contents

Re: DFHSM options for dataset back-up

2018-09-26 Thread Gibney, Dave
I guess I will look at my own trail. That's when I put the UPDATEFLAG=NOCHANGE into our FDRABR SMS pool back-up. I should have opened a PMR/SR then, when we we a direct IBM customer. Since moving to MFaaS, my ibmlink access is reduced. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe

Re: [EXTERNAL] DISA STIG and permission/audit bits

2018-09-26 Thread Jousma, David
There is no way in that I'd be messing with permissions bits on anything IBM provided. We do mount all of that READ only however so that contents cannot be changed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Nash, Jonathan S. Sent: Wednesday, September

Re: [EXTERNAL] DISA STIG and permission/audit bits

2018-09-26 Thread Nash, Jonathan S.
Dont sys admins usually write a shell script that sets premissions with chmod or something like that ? Do you guys have a guy who is good with shell scripts ? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Larre Shiller Sent:

Re: Annoying sign in button for SR

2018-09-26 Thread Tom Conley
On 9/26/2018 12:53 PM, Jousma, David wrote: Yes, along with what seems to be about a 15 minute timeout. I've had SR's open keyed in lengthy update, only to press submit, and get sent to the logon screen again, and my updates gone. I've had to get back into the habit of cutting/paste my

Re: TSO RENAME broke?

2018-09-26 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 September 2018 at 15:30, Seymour J Metz wrote: > TSO RENAME is just a wrapper for IDCAMS RENAME. No. It's a standalone TSO CP, IKJEHREN, that does all the work itself. Well obviously it calls various services like DAIR, CAMLST, and so on, but it is not a front end for IDCAMS. Not that

Re: Annoying sign in button for SR

2018-09-26 Thread Jousma, David
Yes, along with what seems to be about a 15 minute timeout. I've had SR's open keyed in lengthy update, only to press submit, and get sent to the logon screen again, and my updates gone. I've had to get back into the habit of cutting/paste my updates into notepad "just in case" the update

Annoying sign in button for SR

2018-09-26 Thread Pinnacle
Anybody else enjoy logging on to IBMLink, hitting the SR link, then being presented a sign-in button that only requires you to press it, but doesn't prompt you again for sign-on credentials?  Maybe IBM forcin...er...encouraging us to go to Salesforce? Regards, Tom Conley --

DISA STIG and permission/audit bits

2018-09-26 Thread Larre Shiller
As part of a recent audit, we have been goaded into updating the permission and/or audit bits on certain Unix directories per the DISA STIG (which we use as our risk model). Those directories include many that are shipped by IBM and it's a fair bit of research/work. So... you can easily

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Charles Mills
Definitely take a look at IEAMSXMP *if you will always be running on a supported version of z/OS.* As I understand things it is impossible to do a perfect job of X-memory POST. There is no way to write code that with absolute certainty will not POST after its partner program has terminated and

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-26 Thread scott Ford
We are developing solutions for a product and are a Partnerworld partner of course. Basic sending TSO code retrieving output. Scott On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 1:59 AM David Crayford wrote: > If you have purchased CICS you get CICS WLP. Same for IMS and WAS. There > is no free WLP. IBM don't give

Re: TSO RENAME broke?

2018-09-26 Thread scott Ford
Works on Tops r15 no problem here, we have 2.2 and 2.3 z Scott On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:43 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I'm hoping not on both accounts! If something in Roscoe breaks, we'll > have to address that. > > -Original Message-

Re: Master cats as user cats on other systems - why?

2018-09-26 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
We don't share mastercats, because there was not yet really a reason for it and we have the updates well synchronized. The pro is of course that a mastercat problem will be isolated to a single system. Besides that, you will always have a number of mastercatalogs, at least 3 per Sysplex,

Re: Master cats as user cats on other systems - why?

2018-09-26 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
Classification: Public The "platinum" (or ) build says to have a single master cat for all systems in a sysplex. Now I get that not everything is a sysplex, but where it is, take caution. Where you have master cats for other systems as user cats, there's a big red flag - the system won't let

Re: Master cats as user cats on other systems - why?

2018-09-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 14:09:48 +, Allan Staller wrote: >I tend to generally concur w/Brian, but I do want to add an observation. > >Any time there are (three of something) vs (one of something) you are (almost >certainly) guaranteed to the one or more of the three, out of sync. >Correction of

Re: Master cats as user cats on other systems - why?

2018-09-26 Thread Allan Staller
I tend to generally concur w/Brian, but I do want to add an observation. Any time there are (three of something) vs (one of something) you are (almost certainly) guaranteed to the one or more of the three, out of sync. Correction of "out of sync" conditions is generally painful and involves a

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Rob Scott
I would be concerned in the fact that cross-memory POST is only deemed safe in certain circumstances. I believe that normal cross-memory POST does not validate the ECB-owning address space STOKEN or TCB token. IBM do offer IEAMSXMP which is a safe cross-memory POST protocol if pause/release

Re: TSO RENAME broke?

2018-09-26 Thread Jousma, David
I'm hoping not on both accounts! If something in Roscoe breaks, we'll have to address that. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TSO RENAME broke?

Re: TSO RENAME broke?

2018-09-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 11:16:01 +, Jousma, David wrote: >Well, mystery solved. It's been broken at my installation for MANY years >(pre-dates my employment here).SYS1.CMDLIB was in LINKLST concatenation >after my favorite product (CA-Roscoe) which also has a member called RENAME.

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Joseph Reichman
Rob This is just a question is your comment based on the fact the ECB might be in pageable non/fixed storage and has potential for s0c4 Thanks > On Sep 26, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Rob Scott wrote: > > Both Pause/Release and PC-ss are supported in SRB mode. > > The fact that you are in

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Rob Scott
Both Pause/Release and PC-ss are supported in SRB mode. The fact that you are in recovery code (and possibly unsure of the status of both ECB-owner and client) makes me believe that cross-memory POST is even more undesirable. Not saying that it cannot be done with cross-memory POST, but

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Joseph Reichman
You are right as it kills all registers besides 9 If memory serves me right I think the for the system or PC call I know you are going to scream at me but the reason I choose the post is because I’m posting This from a recovery routine as I don’t know whether it’s TCB mode or SRB I’m using the

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Rob Scott
Please be aware that cross-memory POSTs are not ideal and if possible I would consider a redesign of your code to use other methods - for example : (1) Pause/Release (2) PC-ss service into ECB-owner ASID to issue POST on caller behalf Just my 2c. Rob Scott Rocket Software -Original

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Joseph Reichman
Sorry I misunderstood So if Address Space A would like to post Address B the ECB must be addressable to to B as that is the Target the ASCB is that of the target Address space B the ECB can be B private area in A all I need is the address of the ECB even in private and ASCB of B Thanks On

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Peter Relson
>This is just another way of saying that for XMEM the ECB is in CSA right ? No, not right. What within the wording "must be addressable from the address space identified by the ASCB parameter" makes you say that? Storage addressable from an address space includes common storage (whether CSA

Re: TSO RENAME broke?

2018-09-26 Thread Jousma, David
Well, mystery solved. It's been broken at my installation for MANY years (pre-dates my employment here).SYS1.CMDLIB was in LINKLST concatenation after my favorite product (CA-Roscoe) which also has a member called RENAME. Somehow, it never occurred to me to check this. -Original

Re: DFHSM options for dataset back-up

2018-09-26 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Dave, You had a similar thread on a variation of this topic in May of 2010. History repeating itself? :-) Open a PMR/SR to DFSMShsm development. I could not find a specific PATCH example matching your need in any of the usual manuals containing PATCH criteria. Bob -Original

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thanks Joe Reichman 170-10 73 rd ave Fresh meadows NY 11366 > On Sep 26, 2018, at 3:46 AM, Binyamin Dissen > wrote: > > No, it means unlike the MF=E list, the ecb itself must be addressable from the > target address space, not the POSTers primary. > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:49:54 -0400

Re: ECB in XMEM Post

2018-09-26 Thread Binyamin Dissen
No, it means unlike the MF=E list, the ecb itself must be addressable from the target address space, not the POSTers primary. On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:49:54 -0400 Joseph Reichman wrote: :>Hi :> :> :> :>In XMEM Post bases on the fact that's ASC is Primary and in the control :>parameters specify

Re: Master cats as user cats on other systems - why?

2018-09-26 Thread Brian Westerman
I think the op might really be trying to decide if it's "better" to have a single MCAT for the site and thus have the same view of "everything" or if having individual MCATs for each LPAR and then sharing them as UCATs with the "other" LPARs is better. I have operated both ways and I really