Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-14 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
It might not be possible in a real (total) disaster to reverse the replication. However, the DR procedures can also be used in different situations. The simplest is a partial disaster or other problem, like a problem in the CPU room, without problems in the DISK room. Or we executed the

DELETE FMID

2019-02-14 Thread Peter
Hi I am trying to reapply a FMID to the target zone of DB2 but it is failing to apply even though I have specified REDO with FMID and it's Associated PTF. I have checked the global zone that this FMID is already in RECEIVED,APPLIED, ACCEPT status. What will be the best approach to reapply the

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-14 Thread Larry Chenevert
I wonder: can I deallocate a dataset with DYNALLOC, that has been allocated by the initiator because there is a DD statement? Kees. Table 1. Verb code 02 (dynamic unallocation) – Text unit keys, mnemonics, and functions Hex text unit key MnemonicDYNALLOC function . 0007

Re: The 200 year old computer

2019-02-14 Thread Edward Finnell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism In a message dated 2/14/2019 4:41:47 PM Central Standard Time, mike.a.sch...@gmail.com writes: Starts with the Jacquard loom using punched cards, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

The 200 year old computer

2019-02-14 Thread Mike Schwab
Starts with the Jacquard loom using punched cards, Babich's unfinished difference engine, and Holreith's punched cards for the 1890 census. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7-a7kzlk9g -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all?

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:28:35 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:54:58 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >>>// SET PARM2= >> >>Doesn't this run afoul of a rule elsewhere in the Ref. that symbols >>are not to be defined in terms of other symbols. > >What rule is that? Where is it

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
NP Jerry. I *suspect* what Tom suggested would work and would be simpler than what I did. // SET PARM1= Rather than // SET $PARM1= Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Thursday, February

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:07:07 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >I think I could have done > >//jobname JOB ... >// EXPORT SYMLIST=* >//procname PROC ... Maybe. I had a similar problem a few years ago, but in my case, I had a PROC that was used in some jobs. I don't remember if I tried using the

How long may a console command be?

2019-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
Well, now that I have STC LONGPARM working, how long can the START command be? The commands reference describes two formats. It says most commands can use format one, and it may be up to 126 characters. And it says three specific commands must use format two, and does not indicate a maximum

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
I'm keeping this as my set of examples - Thanks Charles Jerry Whitteridge Delivery Manager / Mainframe Architect GTS - Safeway Account 602 527 4871 Mobile jerry.whitteri...@ibm.com IBM Services IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 02/14/2019 02:07:07 PM: > From: Charles Mills > To:

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
+1 And easy for me to say but wouldn't it be trivial to fix? Just pull out the code that checks for unused symbols? No compatibility issues -- no one is conceivably COUNTING ON a JCL error in that situation. Wasn't assembler the model for JCL? Assembler allows unreferenced fields. (Although

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
@Tom's got it. Thanks. EXPORT works in a PROC and so forth but must come before the definition of the symbols it exports. (Again, seems kind of backwards, but what do I know?) I think I could have done //jobname JOB ... // EXPORT SYMLIST=* //procname PROC ... But I have never coded a started

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-14 Thread Laurence Chiu
I might be posting twice here but I've been reading the list via Google Groups and posting there not realizing that the posts don't necessary hit the mailing list. So I've done the proper thing and subscribed to the list. Sorry for any confusion. Anyway when I started DR planning and Sysplex I

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:54:58 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>// SET PARM2= > >Doesn't this run afoul of a rule elsewhere in the Ref. that symbols >are not to be defined in terms of other symbols. What rule is that? Where is it documented? -- Tom Marchant

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-14 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Tom - Global Mirror only requires the extra set of DASD at the receiving site (or at least that is how we are setup). However you'd then need the ability to reverse the replication so could need extra at the primary site (our plan states if we declare we are in the DR site for an extended period -

Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1

2019-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
I get "entry not defined". Unfortunately that doesn't help, because on my playground I have duplex tapes with their primary ML2 tape still existent, and I get the same "not defined" message. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent:

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:57:06 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > ... >Would it kill IBM to have some meaningful examples in the JCL reference? > The JCL Ref. contains a section: Using symbols in started task JCL Example: using JCL symbols Prepare to be disappointed. I see no meaningful

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-14 Thread Tom Brennan
Or I'm wondering if Global Mirror directly from DS8886 to DS8886 might be worth looking into, simplifying that process by eliminating XRC. That takes an extra copy of each DASD volume at each site though. On 2/14/2019 10:12 AM, Stuart zseries wrote: What was missing when I left: The ability

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:02:26 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > ... >I have a started PROC with the typical sort of symbols declared on the PROC >statement. >... >The second step contains //stepname EXEC PGM=program,PARMDD=MYDDNAME > >//MYDDNAME DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY > >I have a // EXPORT SYMLIST=*. I

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 11:01:44 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >> // EXPORT gets specified first before any // SET stmts > >How do I do that in a PROC where the SETs are implicit in the PROC >statement, which is the very first statement? > >//procname PROC PARM1=value,PARM2=value Try this:

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
The EXPORT needs to precede the PROC statement, but I am not sure if that is legal for a STARTed PROC. In my experience at z/OS level 2.2, for regular batch JCL you must put the EXPORT prior to any SET's **and** prior to any PROC *execution* in order to catch the PROC default values. And I

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Rich Tabor
Job cards can be specified in members for libraries defined in MSTJCL00 - //IEFJOBS concatenation - job cards can be specified - also in any proclib member in //IEFPDSI concatenation. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday,

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
> // EXPORT gets specified first before any // SET stmts How do I do that in a PROC where the SETs are implicit in the PROC statement, which is the very first statement? //procname PROC PARM1=value,PARM2=value Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Rich Tabor
Hadn't seen SYMLIST=* learn something new every day... // EXPORT gets specified first before any // SET stmts -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 10:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
I tried EXPORT SYMLIST=(PARM1,PARM2) No difference. Would it kill IBM to have some meaningful examples in the JCL reference? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Tabor Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 10:24

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
OK, I am making some progress. I got past the JCL error by coding a bunch of dummy // SET FOO= statements. I am not getting errors from the program. I can see that no symbol substitution has been done. Is there any restriction on DD *,SYMBOLS in a started PROC? Where should the EXPORT statement

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
I really and truly have // EXPORT SYMLIST=* I've used that before in batch jobs and you know how we lazy programmers are -- I just copied it over. Why? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Tabor Sent:

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
I tried spreading the first three parms across three lines -- no difference. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
Try doing each one on one line Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Charles Mills > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 11:21 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC > > Combo of the two, Lizette.

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Rich Tabor
Do you really have // EXPORT SYMLIST=* or something like // EXPORT SYMLIST=(PARM1,PARM2) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] PARMDD and

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
Combo of the two, Lizette. There are nine parms spread across three lines. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 10:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1

2019-02-14 Thread Allan Staller
Try HSEND DELVOL(XX) PURGE FORCE(?) I haven't looked up the syntax. Actually, if they are not in the TTOC you can probably just expire them. Not sure if you are using RMM, TMS, or other, but RMM had a quirk, whereby if the tape ever had a permanent error (as defined by having a SWAP

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-14 Thread Stuart zseries
Actually, Skip, we were almost at the point to be able to do this when we moved to the new data center. And, the procedure is very similar to the way the move was done. With the new data center, both the primary and secondary site had double disk, so that we could mirror in either direction

Re: PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
How do you have your parms set in the PARMDD input? I was told each parm needs to be on a separate line. Not sure how accurate that is. Have you tried individual lines? Which way is your input coded? //MYDDNAME DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY PARM1,PARM2,PARM3,etc Or //MYDDNAME DD

PARMDD and Symbols in a Started PROC

2019-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
I know I am late to the party but I am just dipping my toe into the LONGPARM pool. I have a started PROC with the typical sort of symbols declared on the PROC statement. The PROC is two jobsteps, FWIW. The second step contains //stepname EXEC PGM=program,PARMDD=MYDDNAME And

Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1

2019-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
Allan, Sorry, this doesn't help. The LIST TTOC is only showing my VTS-based ML2 tapes which have no duplex. BTW, LIST TTOC does show duplex volumes if they exist. :-) These duplex tapes all have old create dates and so I am confident they are orphans. Now, how to get rid of them. I'll

Re: How can I get reports in the Output Queue in SDSF to print

2019-02-14 Thread McCabe, Ron
Vince, We were able to get this issue resolved. IBM support had me issue a QUERY LINK on my z/VM side and noticed that the LINK was in a hold status. They then had me issue a FREE LINK command and after starting the transmitters on the z/OS side everything started working. Not sure how the

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-14 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 07:27:36 +, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote: >Just reverse the replication when starting up the DR site. That isn't necessarily a real DR test. In a real disaster, you may not be able to replicate the data back to the primary site for a considerable period of time.

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-14 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
We run our parallel Sysplex at 2 locations between 15 and 20 km apart. If you are interested in Parallel Sysplex performance, your next question might/should be: do you run (with CFs in both sites) System Managed CF Structure Duplexing? We are using SMCFSD. Kees. > -Original Message-

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, if you don't mind taking out an initiator, ... What's documented is that DYNALLOC is for allocating and freeing datasets in your jobstep. The Initiator for your job is not in your jobstep. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
It used to be documented; I don't know if it still is. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Tuesday, February 12,

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-14 Thread Munif Sadek
Thanks you for Interesting discussion.. Just wanted to know if any organization running Parallel sysplex between two or More CPCs located 12 KM (>7 miles) apart. I find running DEV+TEST and PRODUCTION at different locations and cater for Service Continuity by swapping over to other site

Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1

2019-02-14 Thread Allan Staller
Most likely a continuation of a prior volume. Without going into a lot of detail, if a dataset spans from 1 volume to another the 1st volume in the sequence "owns it". Duplex volumes are never referenced by DFHSM directly. HSEND LIST TTOC will list all primary voulmes. I expect the duplex

Re: PPRC power failure

2019-02-14 Thread Steve Horein
For messaging, review of Message Flood Automation rules would seem to be in order: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieae200/msgfld.htm On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 9:44 PM Peter wrote: > Hi > > One of our DS box in DR had a power failure last night and our

Re: PPRC power failure

2019-02-14 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Peter, My experience is over a decade old with XRC, but I imagine the potential for some form of read/write/IO pacing is the same and that it could impact performance. Open a PMR and ask IBM. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: PPRC power failure

2019-02-14 Thread Mike Schwab
On the sending DASD there is a 1 bit per track table of updated tracks. When each track is sent the bit is reset. When it gets caught up it sets a sync point. On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 9:44 PM Peter wrote: > > Hi > > One of our DS box in DR had a power failure last night and our production >