Re: Is there any z/OS API to get byte file size for non-VSAM, non-zFS, non-database files?

2020-05-18 Thread Mike Hochee
Here's the clarification from IBM... (the field being referred to is UDATASIZ, which is where the restriction statement popped up)... "Unfortunately that field is only valid for extended format VSAM and non-VSAM data sets, as it is maintained in the extended format cell. It was introduced

Re: Licensed source code

2020-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
Is there optional source code for any IBM software announced or released after May, 1999? I didn't see anything there that related to permissible and impermissible use of source code. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: Yechnical

2020-05-18 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Ibm have it today here in Israel. בתאריך יום ב׳, 18 במאי 2020, 23:04, מאת Steve Beaver ‏: > Did anyone attend the Technical Disclosure meeting in NY? > > > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Licensed source code

2020-05-18 Thread Jon Perryman
https://www-03.ibm.com/software/sla/sladb.nsf/sla/home?OpenDocument Jon.On Monday, May 18, 2020, 07:54:19 PM PDT, Seymour J Metz wrote: Does anybody have an announcement or other document that I can cite for "The source code is covered by a non-disclosure agreement or a license that

Re: SHARE annouce plans for an online SHARE was Re: Yechnical

2020-05-18 Thread kekronbekron
Oh SHARE... please have a free-to-attend option. Not many people (apart from the regulars) know about SHARE to begin with (not disrespecting, just comparing the SHARE audience count vs the number of mainframers in real world) ... so a free-to-attend option would be a welcome gift for those who

Licensed source code

2020-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
Does anybody have an announcement or other document that I can cite for "The source code is covered by a non-disclosure agreement or a license that allows, for example, study and modification, but not redistribution." in the wikipedia article [[Proprietary software]] to document IBM's licensed

Re: SHARE annouce plans for an online SHARE was Re: Yechnical

2020-05-18 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/18/2020 4:53 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: This decision was prompted by the Boston mayor's announcement that gatherings of >100 would not be allowed until Labor Day at least. SHARE was scheduled for early August. The event is under reconstruction. You've got an extra zero there, my

Re: Is there any z/OS API to get byte file size for non-VSAM, non-zFS, non-database files?

2020-05-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 May 2020 21:41:00 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: >... >This gets curiouser and curiouser. Unless the receiver of the file is >either z/OS or z/VSE, how is the file going to look? Is what is >actually being sent a sequential copy of the file? Also the >transmitting mechanism may well

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
An RCI makes it easier to, e.g., migrate PS to ESDS, since you don't have to change all of the applications in one swell foop. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 18 May 2020 18:19:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: >CRJE > >All very well for a 2741, but for a 3270 I'd much rather have SuperWylbur or >ISPF, TYVM. > >> IEHIOSUP > >My eyes! Take the bad thing away, Mommy! > >I was thinking more of

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
CRJE All very well for a 2741, but for a 3270 I'd much rather have SuperWylbur or ISPF, TYVM. > IEHIOSUP My eyes! Take the bad thing away, Mommy! I was thinking more of Compatibility Interface and Reverse Compatibility Interface. Is there any good reason that I can't do sequential I/O on a

Re: Question on wrapped JESMSGLG messages

2020-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
> Messages in z/OS do not wrap and are not formatted. In the nextt paragraph you say the opposite. > Multi-line messages are multiple MLWTO's No, it's generally what its name suggests, a single WTO that specifies multiple lines of text, although there is a CONNECT parameter that allows you to

Re: Is there any z/OS API to get byte file size for non-VSAM, non-zFS, non-database files?

2020-05-18 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 18 May 2020 09:38:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main peter.far...@broadridge.com (Farley, Peter x23353) wrote: >Peter, > >Thanks for your comments and questions. As I replied later in the thread, I >was incorrect in posing my original question because the file to be sent is

Re: SHARE annouce plans for an online SHARE was Re: Yechnical

2020-05-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
This decision was prompted by the Boston mayor's announcement that gatherings of >100 would not be allowed until Labor Day at least. SHARE was scheduled for early August. The event is under reconstruction. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler

SHARE annouce plans for an online SHARE was Re: Yechnical

2020-05-18 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 18 May 2020 14:49:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: >It was yanceled due to yovid-19. SHARE in Yoston, too. Share is planning an online conference. See www.share.org. I may attend. Clark Morris > >Charles > > >-Original Message-

Re: Question on wrapped JESMSGLG messages

2020-05-18 Thread Jon Perryman
Messages in z/OS do not wrap and are not formatted. Messages are written using either WTO (single message) or MLWTO (multiple lines of a message). WTO allows you to write a single message which I think has a max length of somewhere around 128 bytes. Multi-line messages are multiple MLWTO's

Re: Yechnical

2020-05-18 Thread Charles Mills
It was yanceled due to yovid-19. SHARE in Yoston, too. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Yechnical Did anyone attend the

Re: Does allocating an HFS or zFS erase all existing data?intervals formatted?

2020-05-18 Thread Wayne Driscoll
I don't believe this is true. I know that Db2 will only "pre-format" a subset of pages when it opens a newly created LDS, or adds a new extent, rather than pre-formatting the entire dataset/extent. Wayne Driscoll Rocket Software Note - All opinions are strictly my own. -Original

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread David Spiegel
OS/VS1 ... like CRJE and IEHIOSUP? On 2020-05-18 12:32, Seymour J Metz wrote: You would think that IBM's "Premiere OS" would be able to provide something this simple! :-)> Not when it's still missing features from OS/VS1 and z/VSE. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: Yechnical

2020-05-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 16:04, Steve Beaver wrote: > Did anyone attend the Technical Disclosure meeting in NY? > No - absolutely no one! IBM, like everyone else, has been doing pretty much everything online lately. Tony H. --

Yechnical

2020-05-18 Thread Steve Beaver
Did anyone attend the Technical Disclosure meeting in NY? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Creating new SMS environment in a monoplex

2020-05-18 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Thanks Carmen. I'll post the results when I try an IPL of that new system and SMS starts up -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 3:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Creating new SMS environment in a

Re: Creating new SMS environment in a monoplex

2020-05-18 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I forgot to mention, once the base is activated, you can alter the configuration and remove systemsIIRC Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Robert B. Richards" <01c91f408b9e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020

Re: Creating new SMS environment in a monoplex

2020-05-18 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Hi Bob, been a while for me also, but in my current sysplex I have systems defined that no longer exist, my ACS routines do not check for these systems. my base configuration has 4 systems in the plex, only 3 exists, not sure this helps you but I think you are on the right track Carmen

Re: USS: su: User ID "SH" does not exist

2020-05-18 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/18/2020 10:56 AM, Jousma, David wrote: My subsequent response was indeed that. My point though is that "su" followed by some other commands do not appear to be executing as UID(0) authority. Yes, that's normal and expected behavior.  You can see what's happening if you logon and issue

Creating new SMS environment in a monoplex

2020-05-18 Thread Richards, Robert B.
It has been a few decades since I have created a new SMS environment. Current environment is parallel sysplex replete with CFs and lots of lpars. I am trying to create a simple SMS environment that will be part of a monoplex consisting on one lpar. I did the following: 1. Defined the new

Re: USS: su: User ID "SH" does not exist

2020-05-18 Thread Jousma, David
My subsequent response was indeed that. My point though is that "su" followed by some other commands do not appear to be executing as UID(0) authority. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Depends on the date. If it is during daylight savings, MDT, otherwise CST. -0500 used to prevent a bit of a challenge. EST, CDT, or Indiana EST all year. On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:02 PM Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Mon, 18 May 2020 11:26:17

Re: USS: su: User ID "SH" does not exist

2020-05-18 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/18/2020 9:37 AM, Jousma, David wrote: //OMVS EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=128M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //STDPARM DD * SH su; ps -ef /* For that I would try: echo ps -ef | su -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831

Re: USS: su: User ID "SH" does not exist

2020-05-18 Thread Jousma, David
SDSF? I don’t think so. If I run this way. //STDPARM DD * SH echo 'ps -ef' | su /* Then I get the expected results... _ Dave

Re: USS: su: User ID "SH" does not exist

2020-05-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 May 2020 16:37:09 +, Jousma, David wrote: >... >Yet, I only see PID's associated my own UID instead of UID(0) >... It's a security feature, enforced mostly by IBM. SDSF may allow finer-grained control. From the Command Ref. for ps: ... However, these

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 May 2020 11:26:17 -0500, Dale R. Smith wrote: > >z/VM has a CP QUERY TIMEZONE command: >query timezone >Zone Direction Offset Status >UTC 00.00.00 Inactive >GMT 00.00.00 Inactive >EDT West 04.00.00 Active >EST

Re: Is there any z/OS API to get byte file size for non-VSAM, non-zFS, non-database files?

2020-05-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Peter, Thanks for your comments and questions. As I replied later in the thread, I was incorrect in posing my original question because the file to be sent is actually a VSAM file. Not sure at this time if it is KSDS or ESDS, as the question was posed to me by a co-worker in another

Re: USS: su: User ID "SH" does not exist

2020-05-18 Thread Jousma, David
Ed, This has been a headscratcher to me for a long time. I tried similar example: //OMVS EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=128M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //STDPARM DD *

Re: Looking for clarification/guidance on SMTP DD FREE/SPIN

2020-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
FSVO needed. If you want the space freed when the e-mail is sent instead of waiting for the job to end, then you need SPIN=UNALLOC. If you don't care then you don't. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
> You would think that IBM's "Premiere OS" would be able to provide something > this simple! :-)> Not when it's still missing features from OS/VS1 and z/VSE. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:21:20 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >The heck with it! I wanted it for the "Date:" line in an outgoing e-mail but >it appears that SMTP provides a sent timestamp if I don't, so the heck with >it! > >Thanks all for your efforts. Why should something so basic be so hard? >

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 May 2020 09:38:01 -0400, Steve Smith wrote: >Speaking of TZ, by coincidence I just stumbled across its full >documentation in UNIX System Services Command Reference Appendix I. > >Format >TZ= standardHH[:MM[:SS]] [daylight[HH[:MM[:SS:]]] >[,startdate[/starttime],enddate[/endtime]] ] >

Re: Looking for clarification/guidance on SMTP DD FREE/SPIN

2020-05-18 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Mon, 18 May 2020 10:15:55 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> f you allocate a DD in your JCL with SYSOUT going to SMTP, and specify >> FREE=CLOSE, >> then your emails will be sent to SMTP when you close the DD in REXX, (EXECIO >> with FINIS option). >> You can use the same DD over and over as

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Bob Bridges
I've been staying out of this conversation; sometimes I fail to read carefully, but this time I actually understood the question, so I kept my mouth shut, not knowing the answer. ...Except for the obvious possibility, of course. But no one seems to have mentioned that possibility yet, except

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 May 2020 08:16:20 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: > >... the protocols such as having the clock be UTC ... > More precisely, the PoOps under TOD Programmable Register suggests (actually avers) that the TOD be set not to UTC but to TAI-10 seconds; currently about half a minute faster. >The

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
Offset, yes, but not zone name. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 8:45 AM To:

Re: Does allocating an HFS or zFS erase all existing data?intervals formatted?

2020-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
Easy to read, if you're authorized. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of R.S. [r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl] Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 9:03 AM To:

Re: ASAP Application of IBM Servicelink

2020-05-18 Thread Tom Conley
On 5/17/2020 9:48 PM, Glenn Miller wrote: I have a question or two for the group. Does anyone still use the ASAP (Automatic Software Alert Process) "application" of IBM Servicelink? My reason for asking...it appears (is) broke. The last Email I received from the ASAP application was on April

Re: DFSMS Move Dataset

2020-05-18 Thread R.S.
W dniu 16.05.2020 o 21:54, esst...@juno.com pisze: I am Not a DASD Administrator - . However I used the following JCL to move a PDS - //STEP1EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU //SYSPRINT DDSYSOUT=A //DASD1DDUNIT=3390,VOL=(PRIVATE,SER=USER12),DISP=OLD //DASD2DD

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Steve Smith
Speaking of TZ, by coincidence I just stumbled across its full documentation in UNIX System Services Command Reference Appendix I. Format TZ= standardHH[:MM[:SS]] [daylight[HH[:MM[:SS:]]] [,startdate[/starttime],enddate[/endtime]] ] It describes all those elements. I wasn't even aware of the

Re: Does allocating an HFS or zFS erase all existing data?intervals formatted?

2020-05-18 Thread R.S.
Excuse me, but IMHO RECOVERY does "format" CIs within CA - that means proper values are written into CIDF and RDF (in any). That means VSAM knows the CI is empty, or partially filled. Unused space within CI is not cleared, there is no need for that. From the other hand physically full block is

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread David Crayford
On 2020-05-18 8:40 PM, Barkow, Eileen wrote: Java has several classes and API methods to get the time zone. Where does the JVM determine this info -is is not from the Unix settings? Yes, but you better make sure the TZ, _TZ variables are set correctly! ISO-8601 flattens this issue somewhat as

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Java has several classes and API methods to get the time zone. Where does the JVM determine this info -is is not from the Unix settings? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread ITschak Mugzach
But make sure that uss & mvs clocks are the same. בתאריך יום ב׳, 18 במאי 2020, 15:28, מאת Steve Smith ‏: > I forgot about the IANA Time-Zone database. That does seem to be the > standard. > > I don't see that Unix has anything to do with it. > > sas > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 1:41 AM Mike

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Steve Smith
I forgot about the IANA Time-Zone database. That does seem to be the standard. I don't see that Unix has anything to do with it. sas On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 1:41 AM Mike Schwab wrote: > East Bank Palestinians and Israelites use different times for the same > location > Line Islands in

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Peter Relson
Surely a simple answer is: you have to do it yourself. In general, it is likely impossible because you do not know if the customer might be setting the clock to their local time and not using the protocols such as having the clock be UTC with the timezone being the offset from UTC. The

Re: Using the CONSOLE command

2020-05-18 Thread Barkow, Eileen
With SDSF you can check the job logs and SYSLOG for messages and issue additional commands against the job to interrogate it if it is supported. You can also wait for responses and do a lot of other things with SDSF/REXX or SDSF/Java. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Using the CONSOLE command

2020-05-18 Thread Jousma, David
Eileen, the issue is not how to issue the command, but the fact that the activation completes asynchronously from the command itself. Easiest way but not exact would be to issue a the command, then use something like OSHELL sleep command for some number of seconds in the jobstream.

Re: Using the CONSOLE command

2020-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
Don't forget to assign yourself the right security definitions for, e.g., CONSOLE, MVS.SET.SMS and MVS.SETSMS.SMS resources, OPERPARM segment. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Using the CONSOLE command

2020-05-18 Thread Barkow, Eileen
You can also use the SDSF/REXX interface to issue console commands and retrieve the response. IBM provides several examples of this. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 1:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Looking for clarification/guidance on SMTP DD FREE/SPIN

2020-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
> f you allocate a DD in your JCL with SYSOUT going to SMTP, and specify > FREE=CLOSE, > then your emails will be sent to SMTP when you close the DD in REXX, (EXECIO > with FINIS option). > You can use the same DD over and over as long as you don't FREE it. Closing it will free it. Also, you