Re: Gwyn's Maxim (was: FSUM7197 pax ...)

2020-11-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
IBM fixed IEBGENER to not clobber the SYSUT2 directory. Changing the behavior of OPEN would have broken a lot of code. The decision that file globbing should be in the shell makes it much more fragile than it would otherwise have been. I prefer the TSO approach of proving services and letting

Re: Gwyn's Maxim (was: FSUM7197 pax ...)

2020-11-05 Thread Charles Mills
> Probably there's a "dusty deck" somewhere whose inexcusably clever > author relied on the behavior Well, you can certainly see some JCL somewhere where there is for example // SET DSN1=SOME.PDS(FOO) And there are a bunch of references to DSN=, most of which really "want" the member

Re: Gwyn's Maxim (was: FSUM7197 pax ...)

2020-11-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
"When the only tool you have is a pipe, everything looks like a filter." -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Gwyn's Maxim (was: FSUM7197 pax ...)

2020-11-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
https://opensource.com/business/14/12/linux-philosophy On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 06:46:15 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >What the heck were the UNIX designers thinking when they allowed the casual >creation of a filename of -x? There may be a legitimate reason why someone >would want to create a file

Re: DS8870 Non Encrypted Disk Drives

2020-11-05 Thread Joe Monk
According to here: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/HW213_7.2.0/com.ibm.storage.ssic.help.doc/f2c_drivesets.html You might need feature code 1754 to deactivate encryption... Joe On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM Sonny Gupta wrote: > Hello All, I have run into a unique problem with a

Re: JES2 Policies

2020-11-05 Thread retired mainframer
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:20 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: JES2 Policies > > Joe, > > And I'm pretty sure no business department is interested in ACCNT field > and its content.

Re: FSUM7197 pax: invalid archive format selected

2020-11-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
Eunix was designed for a PDP-7, and we are suffering from some of the design decisions made then. But the myth of windows being user friendly is just a myth; the reality is quite different. So, yes, z/OS suffers from some really bad decisions made decades ago, but so do the other systems. The

Re: FSUM7197 pax: invalid archive format selected

2020-11-05 Thread Charles Mills
It's fine that UNIX is designed for professionals but (a.) some of us are professionals at many things but have to use UNIX only occasionally; and (b.) no one is born a professional. If you make it hard for folks to get started as non-professionals, then they will gravitate elsewhere and become

Re: FSUM7197 pax: invalid archive format selected

2020-11-05 Thread John McKown
Let me update this a little. When I said "professional", I should have said something like "power user" in today's vernacular. The shell is a field full of mines for those who are not familiar with it. I've been using Linux for about 20 years, and I still get tripped up at times with BASH. I

Re: FSUM7197 pax: invalid archive format selected

2020-11-05 Thread John McKown
Caution -- tacky in-line comment. On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 8:46 AM Charles Mills wrote: > What the heck were the UNIX designers thinking when they allowed the > casual creation of a filename of -x? They were thinking that UNIX is for professionals who know what they're doing and didn't want to

DS8870 Non Encrypted Disk Drives

2020-11-05 Thread Sonny Gupta
Hello All, I have run into a unique problem with a DS8870 that I recently acquired. The DS8870 is not using encryption and when we try to replace the drives, we are receiving following error: The DS8700 is not under IBM Maintenance. 2107-104 Error from Action applicationLevelActivateRepair.

Re: JES2 Policies

2020-11-05 Thread Mike Schwab
Step 1 I would put the default CLASS= in every job. Easier to change the default than add a new line. On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 6:09 AM R.S. wrote: > > Now we know more. Maybe still not enough ;-) > However we may assume: > a) there is finite number of the jobs > b) you know all the jobs - that

Re: FSUM7197 pax: invalid archive format selected

2020-11-05 Thread Charles Mills
What the heck were the UNIX designers thinking when they allowed the casual creation of a filename of -x? There may be a legitimate reason why someone would want to create a file named -x but if so, then *they* should be made to jump through some small hoop and "escape" the name in some way.

Re: gskkyman & public key

2020-11-05 Thread Charles Mills
Skippy, a number of misapprehensions in there. A certificate never "consists of a public and private key." A certificate contains a public key, and somewhere there is a corresponding private key. A PKCS12 package may contain both the certificate and the private key, but a certificate itself

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: gskkyman & public key

2020-11-05 Thread Marshall Stone
Sorry FTPS - x.509 certs need to be exchanged and loaded onto the RACF keyring specified in the TLS rule in PAGENT and if you have client auth enabled the cert will need to be on the client PC/Device also -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Marshall

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: gskkyman & public key

2020-11-05 Thread Marshall Stone
Public keys need to be exchanged between partners - client stores it usually in a file called /etc/ssh/known_hosts - server stores public key in /u/userid/.ssh/authorized_keys MS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Skippy the Ancient Sent: Thursday,

Re: gskkyman & public key

2020-11-05 Thread Skippy the Ancient
I am asking in regards to FTPS. I know gskkyman can create/import/export certs. The cert consists of a public and private key. I'm asking because it's my understanding that the public key should be loaded up and installed on a client computer. Is that correct? When looking at a directory full

Re: SMPE holddata comparing 2 different CSIs

2020-11-05 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 11/4/2020 12:35 PM, Bill Giannelli wrote: We have software at 2 different maintenance levels, with separate CSIs and zones. Is there a report I can run to compare the maintenance levels and get the holddata needed for the "higher level" maintenance? I hope my question makes sense. thanks

Re: Documentation for environment of EXCP appendages

2020-11-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
That was the first place I looked. It mentions key 0 and supervisor mode, but no more. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Mike Myers

Re: JES2 Policies

2020-11-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
Part of real need is complying with lawful management edicts, even when they are not wise. You have an obligation to point out the problems, but if management wants to do it regardless, then you must shut up and code. Of course, in that situation it is prudent to retain an audit trail showing

Re: JES2 Policies

2020-11-05 Thread R.S.
Joe, This is not my call (honestly I don't know this idiom). This is not my dog, this is not my business. I can leave it with no answer, but my willing is to help. And part of the help is not to just code the exit, but discuss about solution. And I'm pretty sure no business department is

Re: JES2 Policies

2020-11-05 Thread R.S.
Now we know more. Maybe still not enough ;-) However we may assume: a) there is finite number of the jobs b) you know all the jobs - that means all PDS/PDSE's with the jobs. No secret libraries, no forgotten user libraries, etc. c) the jobs are not generated dynamically by some "black box" tool,

Re: JES2 Policies

2020-11-05 Thread Joe Monk
"However I think it not valid requirement, there is no business need behind it." Thats not your call to make. They are entitled to run their business how they see fit. Joe On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 5:53 AM R.S. wrote: > W dniu 04.11.2020 o 19:50, Lizette Koehler pisze: > > Can RACF see the

Re: JES2 Policies

2020-11-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 04.11.2020 o 19:50, Lizette Koehler pisze: Can RACF see the account code and make a decision? Obviously not. RACF is also unable to see submitters trousers, check how many days left to nearest holiday, etc. That is what (as I understand it) the initial requirement is. Yes, that

Re: JES2 Policies

2020-11-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 04.11.2020 o 19:29, Lizette Koehler pisze: [...] I worked in a shop with over 500 exits in JES2/zOS/Vtam etc... Each upgrade took longer to do - basically do to validation of the code. One upgrade we decided to reduce that down and let the system perform its own functions. Went

Re: Documentation for environment of EXCP appendages

2020-11-05 Thread Mike Myers
Seymour: I found this also which shows an example of a seldom-ending channel program, used in a communications function. Channel program for HPDT MPC data transfer z/OS Communications Server: SNA Diagnosis Vol 1, Techniques and Procedures Pretty cool. Thanks for this jogging my memory

Re: JES2 Policies

2020-11-05 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Probably using an exit, or maybe more than one. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of kekronbekron Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 Policies Is it an option to ask how they managed this in the

Re: JES2 Policies

2020-11-05 Thread kekronbekron
Is it an option to ask how they managed this in the source site? - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:51 AM, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > Hi Everone. > Thanks for responding. > > We 'purchased' a system from another site. > The jobs that came with the system do not

Re: Documentation for environment of EXCP appendages

2020-11-05 Thread Mike Myers
Seymour: I found there is documentation online. I searched for: IBM z/OS EXCP appendage and came back with a hit: EXCP and EXCPVR Appendages in z/OS DFSMSdfp Advanced Services It has been several years, but I have explored use of the appendages dating back to OS/360, where I used to teach