Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

2021-07-17 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, zIIP is not free, and isn't even an available upgrade for the client running a z13s. It's an option for the one running the z15, but the cost is prohibitive. My point is that IBM is providing an entry level for customers, but that entry level cannot execute z/OSMF. These two sites are

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

2021-07-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
I know z/OSMF has lots of good stuff, and is IBM's direction. And, yes having a zIIP gets you more than just something to run Java. But, look at this statement from Windows or Linux centered view. You're telling me that I need to spend $50K (maybe an old number) extra, just so you can do

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

2021-07-17 Thread Shaffer, Terri
Hi Cheryl, I think the issues and its really outside of this scope, but I am the ONLY system programmer at my shop. I maintain all 7 z/OS lpars with 3 z/OS releases, including the care and installation of VM 7.1. I am also the Operator, HMC, Do IPLs, RACF, CICS, OMVS, HSM, SMS, DASD, ETC, I

Re: Mixing C/C++ with LE-conforming IBM HLASM

2021-07-17 Thread Larry Slaten
Thanks to everyone for their input.  Since I was already using C/C++ I/0 functions to access a card file I thought that it would be simple enough to setup the DD:SYSLIB and that it would actually point me to a DCB address that I could use in my BLDL and LOAD macro(s).  I ended up defining the

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond (+hungry ZOWE concerns)

2021-07-17 Thread Mike Hochee
Thank you Ed, excellent suggestion. I too have felt the z/OSMF cpu cycles were exorbitant, but assuming you have sufficient zIIP capacity and ZZ=YES, which now appears to be the default, then high cycles might in reality be more of a perception problem if a person is looking at a generalized

Re: z/OS versions

2021-07-17 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Are you moving off the mainframe? Do you know exact date of mainframe shutdown? Is the date guaranteed? Who is the guarantor? Some team leader, project manager, external contractor? Is it CIO? Do you have it on paper? Is it clearly communicated? I bet NO. So I bet few years later there will be

Re: Concatinated datasets

2021-07-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 18:59:03 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Yeah, it is one of those problems that seems like it should have a simple >answer "what DSN was this module loaded from? How hard is that?" but in >reality has unlimited subtleties. > Sounds like an RFE candidate. CSV should preserve the

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

2021-07-17 Thread Colin Paice
One issue is that z/OSMF is expensive in CPU. I noticed in the system trace, that there are 500 storage requests (eg getmain/freemain) for each http rest message coming in. Getting rid of these expensive requests would reduce the costs. I think all of these come from below the Java level, such

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

2021-07-17 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/17/2021 3:46 AM, Brian Westerman wrote: Asking a site that is able to function within their requirements and existing SLA's to upgrade their box to more than 4x the existing size just to run z/OSMF is just never going to be economically feasible. Even on sites with larger machines, they

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

2021-07-17 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi Cheryl, I had a similar discussion with you about a year ago, and IBM contacted me to get more information on the "problem". For me, getting z/OSMF setup and running was not an issue, except for the fact that there wasn't enough processing power to keep it running properly. Unfortunately

Re: z/OS versions

2021-07-17 Thread Brian Westerman
There is nothing wrong with staying at 2.2. Of the sites that we support, several of them (11 out of 130) are running at or below z/OS 2.2. 3 of them are running z/OS 1.8 and one is still running z/OS 1.4, those sites all plan to deinstall "some day" and felt no real reason to upgrade. They

Re: z/OS versions

2021-07-17 Thread Mike Hochee
Other 'entities' might include shareholders or policyholders. I don't agree that 'everyone else' is moving from the mainframe. Most large financial institutions are certainly not. They bank on z system's inherent security and integrity. To be sure, their admins are missing out on the thrill