Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Mike Schwab
How about developing on KicksForTso and leave conversion to a more modern compiler to the user? DogeCoin app was developed that way. On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 4:32 AM John McKown wrote: > > Farley, > > They might monitor CBTtape. That's where I normally submit my feeble > attempts. And, of

Re: Performance issues with the FTP API

2021-10-26 Thread kekronbekron
There was a post within the past year about FTP being slow. It came down to reverse DNS lookups I think. Just something to look up perhaps. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, October 27th, 2021 at 12:03 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > Questions for anyone who has used the z/OS

Re: Help with translating a FID Unix FIle

2021-10-26 Thread Charles Mills
To translate a UNIX File ID to the file or data set name? https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=functions-fldata-retrieve-file-i nformation ? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent:

Help with translating a FID Unix FIle

2021-10-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
Is there something I can use to translate the FID to a valid USS Path or File Name Lizettel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
What happened? DOS/360, DOS/VS, DOS/VSE, OS/VS2 and VM/370 are all free, so there shouldn't have been an issue unless they sent, e.g., MVS/SE, VM/BSE, VSE/AF. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Mark Regan
I wonder if we will be able to make connections with each other's systems using TCPIP (TCPNJE) or Enterprise Extender? Regards, Mark Regan, K8MTR *CTO1 USNR-Retired, 1969-1991* *Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017* On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 6:24 PM John McKown wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26,

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated

2021-10-26 Thread Shaffer, Terri
Thanks for the input. Actually now I was totally able to customize all my dataset names, which is really great. It is time consuming because I basically had to change everything.. My dlibs are on a dedicated volume and my RES datasets on another volume. Then they changed all the ZFS dataset

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 2:48 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > The problem is that the quoted prose is ambiguous. I'm hoping that IBM > will spell it out. > > Even if they say that you can't use it to write open source software, it's > still a step in the right direction. > If I were to get ZDNT, I

TS1140 tape transports

2021-10-26 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi list, Was I the only one caught flat-footed with the IBM announcement today that in just over 4 months (2/28/2022), they're dropping support on TS1140 tape transports? Was there an earlier announcement that this was coming and I just missed it or was this the first notification?

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Yeah, remember what happened when one of the original Hercules group requested the tapes for MVS/370, DOS, and VM/370. Nobody at IBM checked to determine if that was OK, and the tapes were sent. Afterwards, the hammer came down. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Pommier, Rex
Quote <(why am I thinking zDENTAL?)> Probably because until it's been available and IBM's lawyers have had a chance to shake some problems (and maybe people) down over it, it'll be like getting teeth pulled to get a straight answer out of them? :-) rex -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
The problem is that the quoted prose is ambiguous. I'm hoping that IBM will spell it out. Even if they say that you can't use it to write open source software, it's still a step in the right direction. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated

2021-10-26 Thread Keith Gooding
Hi Terri. I had a more positive experience with z/osmf installation of a z/os serverpac after some initial confusion. A long time ago I had created a ‘software instance’ from a pair of z/os 2.4 target/dlib zones. I used this as a model for my 2.5 installation and was very surprised when

SLES15 SP3 Quarterly Update (QU1) released

2021-10-26 Thread Mark Post
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBM-Main All, SUSE has announced the release of the second quarterly update (QU1) images of SLES15 SP3. Quarterly Updates are refreshed ISOs based on GA and contain the last released updates. These updated ISOs are released every 3 months. While s390x is

Performance issues with the FTP API

2021-10-26 Thread Charles Mills
Questions for anyone who has used the z/OS FTP API: Are you seeing poor performance? For example, we are seeing FAPI_INIT taking about four seconds (whereas the real FTP client starts up almost immediately). We are seeing a sequence of four RMDIR's taking about four seconds (on a local connection

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Scott Fagen
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Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Charles Mills
> The problem is the vagueness of the license. I would say the problem is the preciseness of the license (given the vagueness of the situations it references). Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread John McKown
Which leads to a question.What, exactly is a "development environment"? Is it an environment in which any code is written? That can't be it or IBM would not include any compilers or interpreters with ZDNT (why am I thinking zDENTAL?). Does running a program I wrote (developed) mean it is now a

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated

2021-10-26 Thread Shaffer, Terri
Okay I am going to retract the dataset names issue. Either my z/OSMF decided to play nice now, or I did something wrong. I can modify all the names to my preferred names and HLQ.. So let me continue to see what happens.. It sure would have been nice to just retrieve my CPAC.SAVE.CONFIG file.

Re: EAV and zHPF documentation, anyone?

2021-10-26 Thread Glenn Wilcock
There is a Redbook for EAV: https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp5364.html?Open -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Grant Taylor
On 10/26/21 9:01 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: I do understand what you say, but I tend to doubt that IBM (even the vigorous IBM legal team) would care whether a new tool or utility developed on a ZD system was contributed to CBTTAPE. CBTTAPE doesn't affect their bottom line enough to

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Here is the exact prose from the agreement you have to sign for the Learner's Edition: The purpose of this Learning License Agreement (“Agreement”) is to make available certain software, resources, and/or cloud services for educational and non-commercial research to any Individual wanting to

Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues

2021-10-26 Thread Shaffer, Terri
Well I tried, but there are way to many issues with using z/OSMF in my installation. First you cant fix the dataset names, you can only change the prefix, We use SYS1.qualifier for all datasets. When I run the server it just appends SYS1SSA as a HLQ and I am off running. Next SMPE datasets, I

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Scott Fagen
Sebastian, I think you may have hit on the crux of the matter: On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 03:44:17 -0500, Sebastian Welton wrote: >This license is for personal, individual learning use only and not for test >and development of commercial products. The legal question is: is developing a program to

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 10:02 AM Farley, Peter x23353 < 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > John, > > I do understand what you say, but I tend to doubt that IBM (even the > vigorous IBM legal team) would care whether a new tool or utility developed > on a ZD system was

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
John, I do understand what you say, but I tend to doubt that IBM (even the vigorous IBM legal team) would care whether a new tool or utility developed on a ZD system was contributed to CBTTAPE. CBTTAPE doesn't affect their bottom line enough to matter. I also suspect they will be monitoring

Re: EAV and zHPF documentation, anyone?

2021-10-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
"DFSMS Basic Access Methods"? I'm not familiar with the term> I would have guessed B*AM, but you included QSAM. What about VSAM? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

BAKR (was Re: Question about negative indexes)

2021-10-26 Thread Steve Smith
I don't know why BAKR/PR is "slow" either, but I do know that it's not really significant except in very intense usage. I worked on a product that used it for all calls except small internal subroutines. And avoided a whole bunch of errors caused by mismatched linkage conventions, not to mention

Re: Question about negative indexes

2021-10-26 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 7:16 AM Peter Relson wrote: > John M wrote: > > I really would like the Linkage Stack to become generally > useful. So I could just use a BAKR to save state on entry and PC to > return. > > > In what way does BAKR...PR not let you accomplish that (if by "state" you >

Re: Question about negative indexes

2021-10-26 Thread Peter Relson
John M wrote: I really would like the Linkage Stack to become generally useful. So I could just use a BAKR to save state on entry and PC to return. In what way does BAKR...PR not let you accomplish that (if by "state" you are referring to thing such as registers and PSW state)? BAKR 14,0 ...

Re: EAV and zHPF documentation, anyone?

2021-10-26 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 10/26/2021 3:34 AM, Sean Gleann wrote: what we're looking for is information on creating a channel program that uses TCWs as opposed to CCWs (our software generates its own channel programs). Someone at IBM decided HPF IP created an opportunity to squeeze some extra money from mainframe

Re: EAV and zHPF documentation, anyone?

2021-10-26 Thread Sean Gleann
Hi Timothy Thanks for your response - it highlights two things for us 1. We were woefully ignorant about the history and current 'packaging' of zHPF - thank you for your explanation 2. I was not specific enough in my original query. You say that zHPF should work automagically with BSAM, etc.

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread ITschak Mugzach
And I am asking, where is Timothy Sipples when we need him ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM coming soon * On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:44 AM Sebastian Welton wrote: > Although the product is

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Sebastian Welton
Although the product is called ZD - Z Development and Testing, this version has the suffix 'Learners Edition' and it quite categorically states the following on the various websites: ZD for Learners Edition is for personal, individual learning use only. It is not for the test and development

RACFdb and VSAM on same volume

2021-10-26 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
(cross-posted to RACF-L) I just found the following statement in GRS manual: Guideline: IBM recommends moving all catalog and all VSAM data sets off any volume that holds RACF database. Q: What is the reason for that recommendation? What is the risk if one does not do so? I suspect this is

Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

2021-10-26 Thread Willy Jensen
I too have tried to get in touch with the local IBM sales with no response so far. When you filled in the form what did you enter as company name? In my opinion entering a company name runs contrary to requesting the Learners Edition as a hobbyist.

Re: EAV and zHPF documentation, anyone?

2021-10-26 Thread Timothy Sipples
Sean Gleann wrote: >Also detailed documentation for z/HPF is evading all our searches >(because it is a chargeable extra, perhaps?) I have a partial answer, to start To my knowledge zHPF is no longer a separately chargeable extra, not for several years with IBM gear. My recollection is that