On 9/1/22 11:22 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
On 09.01.2022 03:19, David Crayford wrote:
On 9/1/22 2:15 am, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
On 08.01.2022 01:52, David Crayford wrote:
On 7/1/22 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
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Well all of your languages miss the support for the message
He was talking about NetREXX.
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Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2022 19:28
Which Rexx?
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 18:38:07 -0400, René Jansen wrote:
>...
>In the meantime, the case in which you just quote the command you would like
>to be executed, works very well.
Quoting commands sounds like the way (FSVO) good old Rexx works.
>> On 9 Jan 2022, at 18:34, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>>
Create the temp file. Open it. Unlink it. When you close the file, it will
be removed by the filesystem. Until then, the inside exists without a
directory entry.
On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 16:51 Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Unique names for temporary Unix files is trivial. Making them go away at
> the
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 22:50:46 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Unique names for temporary Unix files is trivial. Making them go away at the
>completion of the work is more difficult.
>
Most implementations of tmpfile() unlink the file immediately on creating it,
before returning to the caller. z/OS
Yeah, I've become a BIG fan of comments in my old age.
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I think that is a very valid requirement. Due to the platform it is running on,
the JSR223 interface would also be usable for that purpose, although that is
also rather light on retaining state at the moment. It will not be in the next
release (4.02) because that is functionally closing, but
What I want to do is to register environments and function packages in a manner
similar to what REXX supports, including retaining context. For instance, I
would like for an editor to be able to call an edit macro written in NetRexx
and allow the macro to issue commands and queries back to the
Well, I've promoted the use of symbolic parameters since OS/360 R14, causing me
to curse the old 100 character limit on PARM.
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I don't like anything complex enough that I have trouble figuring out
what the original programmer had in mind. The worst though, is when I
get halfway into something I'm already complaining about, then realize
it's my own code I wrote 10 years earlier :)
On 1/9/2022 2:17 PM, Seymour J Metz
Unique names for temporary Unix files is trivial. Making them go away at the
completion of the work is more difficult.
The user can also make ad hoc changes to many scripts by changing environment
variables or configuration files.
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Yes, we are working on that. If you can tell me what you want to see, we’ll
have a go.
In the meantime, the case in which you just quote the command you would like to
be executed, works very well.
Best regards,
René.
> On 9 Jan 2022, at 18:34, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> I downloaded the
I downloaded the new documentation, and address doesn't seem to have the same
semantics as in REXX.
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René Jansen
I take it you don't like REXX scripts, since they can conditionally select
different dynamic allocations.
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Brennan
> he raison d'être of the mainframe is to run applications written in COBOL.
What is FORTRAN, chopped liver?
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David
> I could be wrong, but I think the first use of "macro" in a
> programming/computer context was introduced in Assembler languages:
The first programming use of the term macro that I'm aware of was 705
Autocoder. The first macro assembler that I'm aware of to allow conditional
code generation
Hi Shmuel.
NetRexx has ADDRESS. It was added by Marc Remes in release 4.01. It can address
any executable on your system. Subsequent versions will add ADDRESS WITH for
collections and network.
This was a syntactical addition, the runtime contains, for years and years
already, the package
I wish, but I had no access to their outside network. My work was done
locally via crash cart.
On 1/9/2022 10:33 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 10:04:52 -0800, Tom Brennan wrote:
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shouldn't I call the customer and make sure he can remotely access the
unit?
ProTip:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 10:04:52 -0800, Tom Brennan wrote:
>...
>shouldn't I call the customer and make sure he can remotely access the
>unit?
>
ProTip: When I pretend to be an operator and want to know whether the
link to Remotehost is working, I don't ask the local host. I ask Remotehost
via
On 1/9/2022 7:25 AM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
Ah, "http" instead of "https", sorry (wrote it from memory and did not test it)
!
I have this joke I try to follow that sometimes makes the people I work
with upset with me: "Unless you tested it, there is *absolutely* no way
it will work".
A
I've always felt that a professional should be willing and able to learn new
tools while continuing to use old tools when appropriate.
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Peter, have you looked to see if there is an AREA setting in the CONSOL member?
AREA
Specifies the size of the out-of-line display area
While REXX is my preferred scripting language, my passion is languages that are
or were leading edge, e.g., Icon, SETL.
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I'm a TSO bigot, but my main objections to Unix System Services (née MVS
OpenEdition) have not been based ondislike for Unix. Rather, I saw two major
flaws in the goals.
In the Unix world, there are requirements for certification, but there is a
large ecology of tools that users have come to
I would, in general, not compare any programming language to any natural
language. The evolution of natural languages was driven by the types of
challenges we faced over the millenia, and those did not require expressing
algorithms and data structures. COBOL may be a terrible language, but it
> Well all of your languages miss the support for the message paradigm.
What do you mean by "the message paradigm"? How does it differ from sending
method invocation and response messages to objects?
> NetRexx follows the Rexx philosophy,
FSVO follows. NetRexx doesn't have the concept of
On 09.01.2022 05:52, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
> I couldn't find Netrexx at (https://www.netrexx.org), I did find it here
> http://www.netrexx.org
Ah, "http" instead of "https", sorry (wrote it from memory and did not test it)
!
> I like it!
+1
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On 09.01.2022 03:19, David Crayford wrote:
> On 9/1/22 2:15 am, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
>> On 08.01.2022 01:52, David Crayford wrote:
>>> On 7/1/22 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
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>> Well all of your languages miss the support for the message paradigm.
>
> What on earth are
Also look at the CONTROL (K) command.
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Peter [dbajava...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2022 1:19 AM
To:
Hi Peter,
With z/OS up, please try these 2 console commands:
K E,D (in case there a re messages on the bottom of the screen)
K A,NONE
Try a command which displays a large message, e.g. D A,L
Regards,
David
On 2022-01-09 01:19, Peter wrote:
Hello
I am referring the MVS tuning and reference to
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