Re: zOS 1.13 (really) how copy MVS loadmod from ZFS to PDSE

2022-09-27 Thread Timothy Sipples
John McKown wrote: >What level of hardware? We have a z9BC. SCRT version 29 will NOT run on >this hardware level. I think it needs a z12 or better. From what I saw, I >needed the MVHGI instruction. Actually, this is a Java 8 requirement, not >SCRT 29. I'm still running SCRT 28. In anticipation of

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Re: zOS 1.13 (really) how copy MVS loadmod from ZFS to PDSE

2022-09-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 21:15:11 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >To copy to or from a program object, you need the binder; IEBCOPY can call it >under the covers, but doesn't handle Unix files. RFE? Given that: -X Specifies

Re: zOS 1.13 (really) how copy MVS loadmod from ZFS to PDSE

2022-09-27 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Sep 27, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Seymour J Metz mailto:sme...@gmu.edu>> wrote: To copy to or from a program object, you need the binder; IEBCOPY can call it under the covers, but doesn't handle Unix files. The Unix `cp` command will call the binder under the covers, especially if you use the -X

Re: zOS 1.13 (really) how copy MVS loadmod from ZFS to PDSE

2022-09-27 Thread John McKown
What level of hardware? We have a z9BC. SCRT version 29 will NOT run on this hardware level. I think it needs a z12 or better. From what I saw, I needed the MVHGI instruction. Actually, this is a Java 8 requirement, not SCRT 29. I'm still running SCRT 28. In anticipation of requiring SCRT 29, I

Re: zOS 1.13 (really) how copy MVS loadmod from ZFS to PDSE

2022-09-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
To copy to or from a program object, you need the binder; IEBCOPY can call it under the covers, but doesn't handle Unix files. RFE? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Nightwatch RenBand Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 4:30 PM To:

Re: zOS 1.13 (really) how copy MVS loadmod from ZFS to PDSE

2022-09-27 Thread Joe Monk
According to the z/os unix system services command guide: "An executable file copied from the file system into an MVS data set is not executable under MVS. Some required directory information is lost during the copy. See z/OS UNIX System Services User's Guide

zOS 1.13 (really) how copy MVS loadmod from ZFS to PDSE

2022-09-27 Thread Nightwatch RenBand
This is a cross-post from MVS-OE since not much activity there... Keeping zOS alive at this late date and need to update to JAVA8 in order to accomodate SCRT 29. The JZOS module is there in the zfs and if I can copy it to a PDSE I should be able to run JZOS But I cannot get a valid zos loadmod

Re: LONGPARM applies?

2022-09-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 16:55:00 +, Peter Relson wrote: >Gil wrote > >For compatibility with historic behavior, I'd expect NOLONGPARM (the default) >not to be enforced when a program is invoked by LINK, ATTACH, etc. or from an >unauthorized STEPLIB concatenation. > > >LONGPARM is relevant only

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2022-09-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
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Re: LONGPARM applies?

2022-09-27 Thread Peter Relson
Gil wrote For compatibility with historic behavior, I'd expect NOLONGPARM (the default) not to be enforced when a program is invoked by LINK, ATTACH, etc. or from an unauthorized STEPLIB concatenation. LONGPARM is relevant only for the building of the parameter area for the jobstep program and

Re: Is DEBE still alive?

2022-09-27 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Thanks Seymour. This answered my question ITschak בתאריך יום ג׳, 27 בספט׳ 2022 ב-18:20 מאת Seymour J Metz : > Which DEBE? the original versions of DEBE and MVTDEBE definitely won't run > on MVS, but MVTDEBE on the CBT tape probably will. > > > From: IBM

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Re: Career Opportunity - 100% Remote - Sr. Software Engineer

2022-09-27 Thread rpinion865
I don't think I'm qualified for this position. But, thank you for your interest. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, September 27th, 2022 at 11:16 AM, Tommy Phillips wrote: > I've received multiple job offers for people on this list, so I

Re: Is DEBE still alive?

2022-09-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
Which DEBE? the original versions of DEBE and MVTDEBE definitely won't run on MVS, but MVTDEBE on the CBT tape probably will. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 9:36 AM To:

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2022-09-27 Thread Tommy Phillips
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Re: Is DEBE still alive?

2022-09-27 Thread Bill Johnson
No, you said you didn’t have it installed. Plus, if you don’t have it, the question is moot. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 10:44 AM, Itschak Mugzach <0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Read again. I do not have the module. *| **Itschak

Re: Is DEBE still alive?

2022-09-27 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Read again. I do not have the module. *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux and IBM I **| * *|* *Email**: i_mugz...@securiteam.co.il **|* *Mob**: +972 522 986404 **|* *Skype**:

Re: Is DEBE still alive?

2022-09-27 Thread Bill Johnson
Why not try it if you have the module available? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 10:04 AM, Itschak Mugzach <0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: My question was "will it run on z/os"?... בתאריך יום ג׳, 27 בספט׳ 2022 ב-16:57 מאת Bill Johnson

Re: Is DEBE still alive?

2022-09-27 Thread Itschak Mugzach
My question was "will it run on z/os"?... בתאריך יום ג׳, 27 בספט׳ 2022 ב-16:57 מאת Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>: > Does Everything But Eat is what we called it. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 9:36 AM, ITschak Mugzach

Re: Is DEBE still alive?

2022-09-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
The DEBE source is available on CBTTAPE.org, file 011. Comments say it was updated to run on MVS/XA, so I would think the answer is "yes". I always loved that name - "Does Everything But Eat". Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach

Re: Is DEBE still alive?

2022-09-27 Thread Cameron Conacher
About 100 years ago we had DEBE (Does Everything But Eat) and DNBE (Does Nothing But Eat) A long time ago Thanks …….Cameron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 9:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Is DEBE still alive?

2022-09-27 Thread Bill Johnson
Does Everything But Eat is what we called it. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 9:36 AM, ITschak Mugzach wrote: I don't have this module installed, but wonder if it will work on a Z/OS system if it was installed. ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|*

Is DEBE still alive?

2022-09-27 Thread ITschak Mugzach
I don't have this module installed, but wonder if it will work on a Z/OS system if it was installed. ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM coming soon *

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
I tend to thing of objects and methods rather than the underlying messages. In ooRexx I often use method chaining rather than nested function calls even when operating on strings. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
No, PFKs and the like are not OOP, whether physical or virtual. However, the GUI that implements them could well be OO. There are no functions in pure OO programming, although class methods come close. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
You have to carve the bird at the joints. The control structures that Dijkstra and Wirth pushed are subject to abuse just as much as goto. The use of extra variables and if statements to eliminate goto statements can lead to code that is harder to follow than a well written version using goto.

Re: IBM python documentation?

2022-09-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
By "enhanced ASCII" do you mean ISO-8859-1? UTF-8? "E. None of the above."? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: