Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN

2023-09-02 Thread Bob Bridges
I recently stopped posting on a forum (not this one), and I can tell you why ~I~ didn't make an announcement about it: The first is kind of like yours, Brian: I haven't yet been able to find any way of saying "I don't like the conversation here any more" without it sounding, in my ears at

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

2023-09-02 Thread Grant Taylor
On 9/2/23 11:41 AM, Peter Sylvester wrote: Hi, Hi, I do not really know what I am trying to explain, but anyway. I've found that sharing what I understand something to be beneficial for multiple reasons: 1) articulating it often helps clarify what I'm trying to articulate 2) it gives

Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN

2023-09-02 Thread Brian Westerman
People will join the list, people will leave the list. Some of them will let the list know why they left (as in this case) and some of them will either just stop participating or leave without any word at all. It's sad to hear that people are leaving the list for any reason, but to leave

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-02 Thread Bob Bridges
Ah, that's the trick! It's been a while since I tried looking up DEC-10 assembler, but I have meanwhile learned that finding what I want is often a matter of picking the right search terms. Not always the OBVIOUS search terms, but still. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 16:02:43 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: > >(Naming an assembler language "Macro" probably seemed as clever a marketing >choice as naming a z/OS security product "Top Secret", but the same difficulty >applies to both: When you want to look up something about either on the

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-02 Thread Bob Bridges
What I remember about Macro (the infamously-named assembler language for DEC machines) is that on the DEC-10 there are hardware instructions for viewing the 36-bit word in bytes of any length you choose: 36 1-bit bytes, 18 2-bit bytes, five 7-bit bytes (back then it used 7-bit ASCII so five

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

2023-09-02 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 02.09.2023 o 18:41, Peter Sylvester pisze: Hi, I do not really know what I am trying to explain, but anyway. Ibm has made a kind of minimal security approach to access an HMCusing https, i.e. a self signed cert. Ibm also documents how one can change this,i.e. generate a key pair,, a

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-02 Thread Mike Schwab
https://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-assembler-(system-370)-48.html On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 12:27 PM Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 09:03:47 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: > > >... I used a ~lot~ of assembler on a DEC-10, ... > > >

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 09:03:47 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >... I used a ~lot~ of assembler on a DEC-10, ... > >(Actually I think the problem is the difficulty in writing a hello-world >program. It's mind-numbingly simple in REXX or indeed in almost any >interpreted language; before I can do

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

2023-09-02 Thread Peter Sylvester
Hi, I do not really know what I am trying to explain, but anyway. Ibm has made a kind of minimal security approach to access an HMCusing https, i.e. a self signed cert. Ibm also documents how one can change this,i.e. generate a key pair,, a csr, get certified by "some" CA, then upload the

Re: Switching between SMT-1 and SMT-2

2023-09-02 Thread Mark Jacobs
Those were my thoughts too. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com --- Original Message --- On Saturday, September 2nd, 2023 at 8:42 AM, Peter Relson wrote: > z/OS's

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-02 Thread Bob Bridges
I have long had the ambition to tack on HLASM to my repertoire, and I keep putting it off to learn something else instead (or to play Factorio). I used a ~lot~ of assembler on a DEC-10, and as a COBOL developer I did indeed read my own dumps, which sometimes meant I had to figure out what

Re: Switching between SMT-1 and SMT-2

2023-09-02 Thread Peter Relson
z/OS's doing multi-threading only for zIIPs and not for standard CPs is an implementation choice, with the challenge of accomplishing consistent and correct chargeback data being a factor in that decision. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-02 Thread esst...@juno.com
-- Original Message -- From: Bernd Oppolzer To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2023 09:28:10 +0200 Not true. I'm currently working for 2 customers (insurance companies), both use "high level" languages like COBOL and

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-02 Thread esst...@juno.com
I have to agree with Bernd -.I was a contractor for many years, some times working in two different installations at the same time.Every where I worked, the management didnt want to mention "Assembler" and Yet every where I workedI was asked to look at some old Assembler code and sometimes

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-02 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Not true. I'm currently working for 2 customers (insurance companies), both use "high level" languages like COBOL and PL/1 (and C), but in both companies there is a need for ASSEMBLER coding now and then, be it enhancement to compile supporting routines retrieving sources from CA Librarian