Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >It's IMHO very obvious that offline RACFdb can be copied as regular dataset, >Actually I did mean copy of live RACF db with the tools like IEBGENER or >ADRDSSU (in monoplex) with no ill effects. So my *very limited* experience >says it is not so easy to get

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-17 Thread R.S.
:Tue, 16 Feb 2016 21:48:37 +0100 From:"R.S." <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5) W dniu 2016-02-15 o 12:48, Robert S. Hansel (RSH) pisze: I wholeheartedly agree with Joel's recommendation for having a backup copy of t

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-17 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
t;R.S." <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5) W dniu 2016-02-15 o 12:48, Robert S. Hansel (RSH) pisze: > I wholeheartedly agree with Joel's recommendation for having a backup copy of > the RACF database readily available for

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-16 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-02-15 o 12:48, Robert S. Hansel (RSH) pisze: I wholeheartedly agree with Joel's recommendation for having a backup copy of the RACF database readily available for recovery. I just want to add that it is crucial to use RACF utilities to create the backup and to allocate it with the

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-15 Thread Itschak Mugzach
-715-0595 Mobile > >> jo.skip.robin...@att.net > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > >>> On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe > >>> Sent: Sunday, Februa

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-15 Thread Joe Aulph
Program Co-Manager >> 323-715-0595 Mobile >> jo.skip.robin...@att.net >> >> >> -Original Message- >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >>> On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe >>> Sent: Sunday, February 14,

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-15 Thread John Eells
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 07:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5) On 2/13/2016 8:04 PM, Skip Robinson wrote

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-15 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
un, 14 Feb 2016 15:53:07 -0600 From:"Joel C. Ewing" <jcew...@acm.org> Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5) But the only way to "fix"an unusable RACF database is to have a fairly recent backup copy of the RACF data base that can

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-14 Thread Walt Farrell
On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 16:25:03 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 2/14/2016 2:50 PM, Skip Robinson wrote: >> As I said earlier, we still use UADS in production. Only a handful of TSOE >> segments in order to support features that cannot be achieved otherwise, >> such as

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-14 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/14/2016 2:50 PM, Skip Robinson wrote: As I said earlier, we still use UADS in production. Only a handful of TSOE segments in order to support features that cannot be achieved otherwise, such as CONSOLE. CONSOLE can't be achieved via RACF? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-14 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >> On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe >> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 07:37 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5) >> >> On 2/13/2016 8:04 PM, Skip Robi

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-14 Thread Skip Robinson
nframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 01:53 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5) > > But the only way to "fix"an unusable

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5)

2016-02-14 Thread Skip Robinson
M-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 07:37 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] UADS (was Re: [Bulk] Re: COBOL v5) > > On 2/13/2016 8:04 PM, Skip Robinson wrote: > > This opinion is based on (thankful