Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-07 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-02-05 o 21:00, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: Lester, Bob wrote: Commodore 64 anyone? :-) Spectrum 48k, Commodore 64, Atari 64XE, Atari 800XL The best machine was Amstrad CPC 6128 and I would challenge everyone who do not agree. Swords, sabres, joysticks - what you

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-07 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Yeah - times have changed ... I remember back then when folks said I had a hot baud too ... :( Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services : humana.com 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 714-8615, (502) 476-2538 >

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 18:57:17 -0500, Gregg wrote: >Did it require a Hayes (compatible) MODEM? It isn't a modem command, but a command to the telephone company. Something like dialing *70 before dialing the number. -- Tom Marchant >On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Ed Gould

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-06 Thread Gregg
Did it require a Hayes (compatible) MODEM? On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Ed Gould wrote: > Yes/NO > There was a command that at dial time would stop call waiting, its been > years (sorry). > > Ed > > > On Feb 6, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Chris Hoelscher wrote: > > Linda -

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-06 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Linda - did you have call waiting? If you forgot to disable it before "hooking up" that little click/beep indicator of an incoming call would throw me offline (Apple ][+) Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services : humana.com 123 East

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-02-06, at 08:49, Chris Hoelscher wrote: > Linda - did you have call waiting? If you forgot to disable it before > "hooking up" that little click/beep indicator of an incoming call would throw > me offline (Apple ][+) > Similarly irritating, later I had a modem (RJ11, not acoustical)

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-06 Thread Ed Gould
Yes/NO There was a command that at dial time would stop call waiting, its been years (sorry). Ed On Feb 6, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Chris Hoelscher wrote: Linda - did you have call waiting? If you forgot to disable it before "hooking up" that little click/beep indicator of an incoming call

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-06 Thread Linda
Hi Chris, No call waiting. My Apple had its own phone. I spent lots of time logged in to the Univac at school coding and reading listings, first at 110 baud, later at 300 baud. Linda Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2016, at 7:49 AM, Chris Hoelscher wrote: > > Linda

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-06 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 6, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Gregg wrote: Did it require a Hayes (compatible) MODEM? Sorry that is before my time:) Ed On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Ed Gould wrote: Yes/NO There was a command that at dial time would stop call waiting, its been years

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
linda.lst...@comcast.net (Linda) writes: > I had an Apple ][ with an acoustic coupler. It auto dialed over a > regular telco dial tone line using a program loaded from a cassette > player, or if one could afford it, from an early floppy drive. The > college I went to had a Univac 90/70d. The were

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Lester, Bob wrote: > Hi John, > > Commodore 64 anyone? :-) > > Do you know what OS it ran? > ​Some variant of Microsoft BASIC, in ROM.​ > > Was the HW an x86? Motorola? Apple? > ​Motorola 8 bit​ 6510 CPU. Apple ][ was

Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi John, Commodore 64 anyone? :-) Do you know what OS it ran? Was the HW an x86? Motorola? Apple? I had a buddy (years ago, of course), that did strange and wonderful (at the time) things with several of them connected together. No cases, wires everywhere, but

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 19:02:30 +, Lester, Bob wrote: >Commodore 64 anyone? :-) >Do you know what OS it ran? >Was the HW an x86? Motorola? Apple? No. No, and no. The C-64 used an MOS Technology 6510. It was essentially the same processor as the 6502 used in the Apple II and Atari 400

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
bles...@ofiglobal.com (Lester, Bob) writes: > ​Yeah. Worst mistake Gary Kindall ever made. Just think, if he'd hadn't > "blown off" IBM, I'd be cursing his memory (he's deceased) instead of > Bill Gates. Or maybe not, I ran CP/M-80 back in the day. I really > enjoyed it. But, then, I enjoyed

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lester, Bob wrote: > Commodore 64 anyone? :-) I owned one then - with speed of 1.0?? MHz. Played games, learned myself Assembler, prolog, basic (slow and yucky!), logo (?spelling? that turtle thing language - actually a vector based drawing program). There were a lots of new

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 13:19:25 -0600, John McKown wrote: >the grandfather of them all ... >was the Imsai 8080. Not to mention many other CP/M-80 machines, such as >Comemco and Altair 8800. ITYM Cromemco. The IMSAI was a clone of the Altair. If you want to think of one as the "Grandfather", it

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Linda
I had an Apple ][ with an acoustic coupler. It auto dialed over a regular telco dial tone line using a program loaded from a cassette player, or if one could afford it, from an early floppy drive. The college I went to had a Univac 90/70d. The were 4 student dialup numbers. I could get into one

Re: Ancient History (OS's) - was : IBM Destination z - What the Heck Is JCL and Why Does It Look So Funny?

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 14:00:29 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >8 bit MOS Technology 6510 with 64KB memory - Loosely based on Motorola AFAIK. Depends on what you mean by "based on". The 6502 was designed by some of the same people who designed the 6800 at Motorola, but it was a rather different