Re: Blockchain on Mainframe ?

2017-10-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
copied from social media IBM group Blockchain mining using GPU (graphics) chips that have huge number of internal processors https://hothardware.com/news/amd-radeon-rx-vega-mining-block-chain-ethereum and xeon crypto (xeon are processor chips used in e5-2600 and other blades) ... benchmark e5

Re: Blockchain on Mainframe ?

2017-10-24 Thread Timothy Sipples
e technically possible might not be contractually or legally possible. In the case of blockchain algorithms, there are probably a couple governments prohibiting or severely restricting blockchain algorithm adoption in their countries. If you're eager to get started with blockchain algorithms on z/

Re: Blockchain on Mainframe ?

2017-10-23 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-10-20 o 19:04, Jake Anderson pisze: Hi Is it possible to run blockchain on zOS ? Is it going to be completely a different layer within Mainframe ? One of the article says if blockchain comes then it can process the transaction even faster than VISA . Any thoughts ? One thought

FWD: MasterCard and Blockchain

2017-10-21 Thread Mark Regan
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3234372/financial-it/mastercard-launches-its-own-blockchain-payments-network.html Watch the wrap -- Regards, Mark T. Regan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Blockchain on Mainframe ?

2017-10-20 Thread Kirk Wolf
Exactly right John. Why would anyone want to *run* blockchain on z/OS? Linux on z makes alot more sense. *Using* blockchain from z/OS applications is a different story. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 12:28 PM, John McKown <john.archie.

Re: Blockchain on Mainframe ?

2017-10-20 Thread Denis
Hi, about half a year ago I built Hyperledger (one of many blockchain implementations - there is no single this is the blockchain implementation) from sources on Linux for System z. There are a couple of depencies (also C code) which are not available for the s390x platform. So you have

Re: Blockchain on Mainframe ?

2017-10-20 Thread Allan Staller
ISTR "official" blockchain support at some point on z/OS. GIYF. Or check w/ your friendly neighborhood rep. or Tim Sipples -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 12:28

Re: Blockchain on Mainframe ?

2017-10-20 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Jake Anderson <justmainfra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Linux ... So is there a chance that card industries might start migrating > from CICS to Linux on z to take the advantage of blockchain ? Sorry if I > didn't understand correctly > ​I saw a s

Re: Blockchain on Mainframe ?

2017-10-20 Thread Jake Anderson
Linux ... So is there a chance that card industries might start migrating from CICS to Linux on z to take the advantage of blockchain ? Sorry if I didn't understand correctly On 20-Oct-2017 10:40 PM, "Rob Schramm" <rob.schr...@gmail.com> wrote: > From what I have seen so

Re: Blockchain on Mainframe ?

2017-10-20 Thread Rob Schramm
>From what I have seen so far, I don't think native blockchain on z/OS is there. I think all the work for mainframes is done in Linux on z. It has been 3-6 months since I last looked and everything blockchain related is in "heavy fluctuation". Rob Schramm On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at

Blockchain on Mainframe ?

2017-10-20 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi Is it possible to run blockchain on zOS ? Is it going to be completely a different layer within Mainframe ? One of the article says if blockchain comes then it can process the transaction even faster than VISA . Any thoughts ? Regards Jake

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-28 Thread Mike Schwab
I saw SHA-1 and SHA-512 on page 12 and 18. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Todd Arnold wrote: > Kirk, you don't need to program the SHA-256 algorithm in software - it's > available as a hardware instruction using CPACF. I don't have performance > numbers handy for

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-27 Thread Kirk Wolf
Todd, I don't see SHA-512 CPACF number in the paper that you reference. I can't find any benchmarks for z13 CPACF. For non-specialized hardware, (like GPUs): https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Non-specialized_hardware_comparison It looks here like an AMD Radeon 6970 will do around 400 million SHA-256

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-27 Thread Kirk Wolf
Hi Todd, I know that SHA-256 is available in CPACF (and I've written Assembler code to use it).My assumption is that using Vector integer instructions to solve many hashes in parallel would be more efficient. CPACF SHA-256 (for one hash) is much better than equivalent GP Integer

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-27 Thread Kirk Wolf
would guess that the answers are "no", and > "none") > > Running Hyperledger Blockchain node/server and Bitcoin mining are > *completely* different things. Hyperledger Blockchain does not have a > function that mines blocks (i.e. completes a block by finding a n

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-27 Thread Todd Arnold
Kirk, you don't need to program the SHA-256 algorithm in software - it's available as a hardware instruction using CPACF. I don't have performance numbers handy for SHA-256, but you can see SHA-512 performance in this paper:

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-27 Thread Todd Arnold
> z/Series machines are not geared towards floating point operations the way > commodity GPUs, FPGAs, or purposely built BitCoin miners are. Remember that the main thing you need to do for bitcoin mining are hashing operations. The z machines have the hash algorithms built in to the CPACF

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-27 Thread Kirk Wolf
Are there z13 benchmarks for Bitcoin mining? How many profitable Bitcoin miners are running z13s? (I would guess that the answers are "no", and "none") Running Hyperledger Blockchain node/server and Bitcoin mining are *completely* different things. Hyperledger Bloc

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-26 Thread Timothy Sipples
ledger Blockchain, by the way. >So you surely would spend more money on electricity powering the machine >than you'd gain through mining BitCoins, as is already the case for GPUs. I don't think that assumption is correct, assuming the IBM z13, z13s, or LinuxONE machine is otherwise powered up and per

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-26 Thread Tony Harminc
On 26 January 2017 at 12:43, Cannaerts, Jan wrote: > z/Series machines are not geared towards floating point operations the way > commodity GPUs, FPGAs, or purposely built BitCoin miners are. So you surely > would spend more money on electricity powering the machine than

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-26 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
rob.schr...@gmail.com (Rob Schramm) writes: > There are just loads of uses and possibilities for blockchain. I had > started looking into coding for Bitcoin to use unused cycles on z/OS to > make money. But then migrated over to blockchain as a concept to act as a > proof or record

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-26 Thread Cannaerts, Jan
n to what we can do with blockchain on our machines. Trying new stuff out just for the heck of it will always be a good thing in my book. -- Jan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-26 Thread Rob Schramm
There are just loads of uses and possibilities for blockchain. I had started looking into coding for Bitcoin to use unused cycles on z/OS to make money. But then migrated over to blockchain as a concept to act as a proof or record history. I was pondering single user record concept that would

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-20 Thread Kirk Wolf
quot;). > > Charles > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Kirk Wolf > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:12 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Blockchain > > Based on previous int

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-20 Thread Charles Mills
Great! (Except for the "some of it running on 1970's mainframes."). Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Blockch

Re: Blockchain

2017-01-20 Thread Kirk Wolf
Based on previous interest on Bitcoin, I was suspicious of "Blockchain" as vendor marketing bandwagon-ism and/or finance industry panic. But I recently watched this short Ted talk on "Blockchain", which I initially thought would be just fluff. Some of the ideas near the

Blockchain

2017-01-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
If you'd like to start using Hyperledger Blockchain technology on your IBM z System or LinuxONE machine, here's a great article explaining how: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cloud/library/cl-ibm-blockchain-101-quick-start-guide-for-developers-bluemix-trs/index.html

Re: Inside the Secret Meeting Where Wall Street Tested Digital Cash (Blockchain)

2016-05-03 Thread Rob Schramm
Except the comment is more about expert system interventions (custom software, paper, tape histories, people) in transactions and moving to a system that utilizes blockchain to replace "mainframe era" operations. My own experience in banking, indicates that the process is still full of

Inside the Secret Meeting Where Wall Street Tested Digital Cash (Blockchain)

2016-05-02 Thread Mark Regan
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-02/inside-the-secret-meeting-where-wall-street-tested-digital-cash Them seem to forget that the zSystem can do Blockchain too. http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/trends/IBM-Announcements/z-Systems_LinuxONE_Blockchain/ >From the Bloomberg arti

Introducing Open Blockchain for IBM z Systems

2016-03-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
There are instructions posted now on how to build Blockchain's Open Ledger for Linux on z from the Open Ledger source code: https://github.com/linux-on-ibm-z/docs/wiki/Building-Open-Ledger and there are lots of other "recipes" available here: https://github.com/linux-on-ibm-z/docs/wiki Still

Re: Introducing Open Blockchain for IBM z Systems

2016-02-25 Thread Bigendian Smalls
Fantastic thank you. > On Feb 25, 2016, at 3:36 AM, Timothy Sipples <sipp...@sg.ibm.com> wrote: > > Yes, take a look here for source code (with more to come, including as I > understand it more details on building on z): > > https://github.com/IBM-Blockch

Re: Introducing Open Blockchain for IBM z Systems

2016-02-25 Thread Timothy Sipples
Yes, take a look here for source code (with more to come, including as I understand it more details on building on z): https://github.com/IBM-Blockchain https://github.com/openblockchain Although optional, IBM would very much like to stay in touch with those working with Blockchain on z. Please

Re: Introducing Open Blockchain for IBM z Systems

2016-02-24 Thread Bigendian Smalls
Hey Timothy - I’ve read quite a bit on blockchain - and agree it could be very game changing for certain types of applications. It was stated elsewhere that IBM’s implementation (along with their corporate and Linux partners) would be open source. Is it available yet? Cheers Chad

Introducing Open Blockchain for IBM z Systems

2016-02-17 Thread Timothy Sipples
I haven't seen anybody mention Open Blockchain public ledger technologies on IBM z Systems yet in this forum, so I'd just like to draw your attention to them and raise some awareness in this community. Here is some background reading: http://www.ibm.com/blockchain/z.html http