Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-20 Thread Joel C. Ewing
And no one seems to have mentioned that when an ERROR hold is first put on one of the PTFs in your  chain, it rarely contains a resolving PTF initially - that usually gets added later; so if you run your check immediately after the HOLD is released, you know there is an APAR problem you may need to

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 08:32:12 -0500, Jerry Callen wrote: >>> Normally, the process of resolving all REQ/PREREQ/IFREQ requirements for >>> given PTF(s) and collecting all missing items that prevent resolution, up >>> to >>> the point where APPLY CHECK suggests that actual APPLY could be successful

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-16 Thread Jerry Callen
>> Normally, the process of resolving all REQ/PREREQ/IFREQ requirements for >> given PTF(s) and collecting all missing items that prevent resolution, up to >> the point where APPLY CHECK suggests that actual APPLY could be successful >> could require several iterations. > I have used GROUPEXTEND

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-16 Thread Giliad Wilf
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:53:09 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:28:57 -0500, Giliad Wilf wrote: >> >>Normally, the process of resolving all REQ/PREREQ/IFREQ requirements for >>given PTF(s) and collecting all missing items that prevent resolution, up to >>the point where APPLY

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2018-03-15 Thread Longabaugh, Robert E
n 03/15/2018 10:51:24 AM: > From: Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 03/15/2018 10:51 AM > Subject: Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for > full resolution of researched PTFs? > Sent by

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
<00d50942efa9-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 12:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs? Hi All, Normally, the process of resolving all REQ/PREREQ/IFREQ requiremen

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread Edward Finnell
Whenever I get in trouble with an APAR I let SMP/E figure it out.  APPLY S(APAR_ID) CHECK GROUPEXTEND.   In a message dated 3/15/2018 1:12:32 PM Central Standard Time, cvitu...@hughes.net writes:   yup... DUH! -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
018 10:51:24 AM: > From: Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 03/15/2018 10:51 AM > Subject: Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required > for full resolution of researched PTFs? > Sent by: IBM Mainfr

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread Carmen Vitullo
yup... DUH! Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Tom Marchant" <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 1:05:14 PM Subject: Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for ful

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 14:01:09 -0400, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >but if you maintain your SMPLOG's.. not easy but maybe you can track the PTF >chain from there? Not for PTFs that have never been received. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread Carmen Vitullo
15, 2018 12:51:24 PM Subject: Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs? On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:30:10 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Water is wet. The sky is blue. APPLY CHECK GROUPEXTEND reports only the >information available to it. R

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:30:10 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Water is wet. The sky is blue. APPLY CHECK GROUPEXTEND reports only the >information available to it. Right, but you asserted that "the information is in the CSI" for "collecting all missing items that prevent resolution". -- Tom Ma

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Paul, true, but the OP asked who is right, and it is him. SMP will only report on data stored in it. ITschak On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 19:19:39 +0200, ITschak Mugzach wrote: > > >​CSI information

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 19:19:39 +0200, ITschak Mugzach wrote: >​CSI information is created by receive. All dependencies are maintained in >PTF pre, sup, coex, etc. If you don't receive the PTF, the chain is broken. >The only way to feed this info is by receive the PTFs (and HOLDDATA). > Water is wet

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread ITschak Mugzach
​CSI information is created by receive. All dependencies are maintained in PTF pre, sup, coex, etc. If you don't receive the PTF, the chain is broken. The only way to feed this info is by receive the PTFs (and HOLDDATA). ITschak On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-d

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:53:09 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:28:57 -0500, Giliad Wilf wrote: >> >>Is there a shorter path to resolving all requirements other than ship the >>contents of your CSI to a support center for analysis and preparing a list of >>all requirements? >>

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:28:57 -0500, Giliad Wilf wrote: > >Normally, the process of resolving all REQ/PREREQ/IFREQ requirements for >given PTF(s) and collecting all missing items that prevent resolution, up to >the point where APPLY CHECK suggests that actual APPLY could be successful >could requi

Re: Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Gilad, You are right. The ptf chain between csi ptf level and the ptf you want to apply might be broken as some ptfs might be missing. All chain logic is maintained in ptf pre, req, sup etc staements. ITschak בתאריך 15 במרץ 2018 18:29,‏ "Giliad Wilf" < 00d50942efa9-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.

Can the CSI info alone produce a final list required for full resolution of researched PTFs?

2018-03-15 Thread Giliad Wilf
Hi All, Normally, the process of resolving all REQ/PREREQ/IFREQ requirements for given PTF(s) and collecting all missing items that prevent resolution, up to the point where APPLY CHECK suggests that actual APPLY could be successful could require several iterations. Is there a shorter path to r