Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-02-03 Thread Art Gutowski
On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 08:33:55 -0600, Bruce Hewson wrote: >You do not need to use /Service to perform mainmtenance. > >You can mount your maintenance target HFS/ZFS files at ANY mountpoint, just so >long as your DDDEF PATH statements match. > >You could even create mount

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-19 Thread Mike Smith
I vote for Bruce's method also. This will allow multiple versions (a maintenance version of current and the next Version release) to be mounted at the same time. Allows two people or parallel work on both systems. I even went so far as to write a REXX routine which would create the mount

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-19 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hi James You do not need to use /Service to perform mainmtenance. You can mount your maintenance target HFS/ZFS files at ANY mountpoint, just so long as your DDDEF PATH statements match. You could even create mount points as /IPLVOL - same names as your IPL volume VOLSER. Hope that helps

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-19 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:32:28 -0500, John Eells wrote: >the abilities to use SYMBOLICRELATE to point to a user catalog >... were there >from its inception many releases ago (well before z/OS V1.13). Thanks, John. I never noticed the ability to use SYMBOLICRELATE to point to a user catalog. I see

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Chambers, James
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of van der Grijn, Bart (B) Sent: 18 January 2016 12:35 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS Hi James, We clone our sysres (maintained in sandbox) every month to generate IPL volumes for the Dev and Prod LPARs

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Chambers, James
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS To expand on that thought a bit: - You can name the usercatalog using the volume name. - You can use SYMBOLICRELATE on DEFINE ALIAS to point to the catalog thusly named in the master catalog on the production system. - If you have more

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread John Eells
To expand on that thought a bit: - You can name the usercatalog using the volume name. - You can use SYMBOLICRELATE on DEFINE ALIAS to point to the catalog thusly named in the master catalog on the production system. - If you have more than one volume in your target volume set, you can

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 09:04:53 -0500, John Eells wrote: >- You can use SYMBOLICRELATE on DEFINE ALIAS to point to the catalog >thusly named in the master catalog on the production system. There used to be a requirement that the alias and the data set name be in the same catalog. I see in Managing

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 14:41:32 +, Chambers, James wrote: >Is there a better way to deal with the HFS or ZFS DDDEFs? Include the SYSRES VOLSER as part of the dsname. When you mount it, you can use in the mount specification. -- Tom Marchant

Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Chambers, James
Hi, We use a process of cloning on our Dev lpar to create new Sysres before we apply maintenance, it has worked fine for Zos 1r13 but we only used HFS. We have started to use ZFS for 2r1 which is fine if the Sysres is for the same Lpar the clone process is run on but I am now cloning a Sysres

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS Most posts in this thread seem to support the strategy of 'cloning a running system in order to do maintenance'. For as long as I can remember, we have pursued the opposite strategy: the ser

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Skip Robinson
t; To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [Bulk] Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS > > Hi Tom, > > We already include it like OMVS.RESPR1.ROOT but the DDDEF only has the > path. The below shows a DDDEF taken from the apply, it still means I need to > make sure I got the mount right

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
, 2016 5:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS Hi, We use a process of cloning on our Dev lpar to create new Sysres before we apply maintenance, it has worked fine for Zos 1r13 but we only used HFS. We have started to use ZFS for 2r1 which is fine if the Sysres

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Chambers, James
a Sysres and ZFS On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 14:41:32 +, Chambers, James wrote: >Is there a better way to deal with the HFS or ZFS DDDEFs? Include the SYSRES VOLSER as part of the dsname. When you mount it, you can use in the mount specification. -- Tom March

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread John Eells
Tom Marchant wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 09:04:53 -0500, John Eells wrote: - You can use SYMBOLICRELATE on DEFINE ALIAS to point to the catalog thusly named in the master catalog on the production system. There used to be a requirement that the alias and the data set name be in the same

Re: Cloning a Sysres and ZFS

2016-01-18 Thread Art Gutowski
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:03:39 +, Chambers, James wrote: >We already include it like OMVS.RESPR1.ROOT but the DDDEF only has the path. >The below shows a DDDEF taken from the >apply, it still means I need to make >sure I got the mount right and the ZONEEDIT