Re: No BPX-level interface for __passwd_applid? Was: Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-15 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
It's probably a bug in SORT. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thomas David Rivers Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: No BPX-level interface for __passwd_applid? Was: Re: Code to verify LOGON password

No BPX-level interface for __passwd_applid? Was: Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-15 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Kirk Wolf wrote: /* Check password for a userid. Note: requires program-controlled environment To build: c99 -o checkpass checkpass.c i extattr +p checkpass */ #define _POSIX_SOURCE #include #include #include #include #include #include int main(int argc, char** argv) { if

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
, January 14, 2021 7:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Code to verify LOGON password It isn't just UACC(READ) or UID(*). Why does ~anyone~ have read access to the database? (To say nothing of update.) At a client I served a while back, I pointed out that a lot of people had read

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-14 Thread Bob Bridges
It isn't just UACC(READ) or UID(*). Why does ~anyone~ have read access to the database? (To say nothing of update.) At a client I served a while back, I pointed out that a lot of people had read access, and quite a few had update. They argued that it was necessary so that their admins could

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 12.01.2021 o 06:42, Timothy Sipples pisze: Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: That's what we call brute force attack. There is no way to protect against it ...or maybe there are some things to help. 1. Do not give your RACF db to hackers. Never. 2. Enforce periodic password change. 3. Use KDFAES.

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 11.01.2021 o 17:44, Charles Mills pisze: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Ripper There is a downloadable plugin for RACF -- old RACF hashing only, I *think*. @R.S. writes 1. Do not give your RACF db to hackers. Never. No one "gives" their RACF DB to anyone (I would hope). The

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >That's what we call brute force attack. >There is no way to protect against it ...or maybe there are some >things to help. >1. Do not give your RACF db to hackers. Never. >2. Enforce periodic password change. >3. Use KDFAES. >4. Use passphrases. Here are some more

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-11 Thread Charles Mills
ginal Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Code to verify LOGON password Isn't there a program someone wrote (talked about here many years ago

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-11 Thread Chris Hoelscher
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Code to verify LOGON password [External Email: Use caution with links and attachments] Isn't there a program someone wrote (talked about here many years ago) that can try various passwords until something matches the hashed value? If that's the case

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-11 Thread R.S.
That's what we call brute force attack. There is no way to protect against it ...or maybe there are some things to help. 1. Do not give your RACF db to hackers. Never. 2. Enforce periodic password change. 3. Use KDFAES. 4. Use passphrases. First is obvious. Effectiveness of the second is

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-11 Thread Tom Brennan
Isn't there a program someone wrote (talked about here many years ago) that can try various passwords until something matches the hashed value? If that's the case, hashing doesn't really do as much good as people think it does, once someone gets hold of the RACF dataset of course. On

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
Sam Golob asked: >Does anyone have user-written code for RACF, so that if the user >types in a password, the code will verify if it is the user's actual >LOGON password? Here's a pedantic point: RACF doesn't actually know what the user's password is -- thank goodness. RACF can only determine

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
What is wrong with RACROUTE REQUEST=VERIFY,ENVIR=CREATE,ACEE=@ACEE followed by RACROUTE REQUEST=VERIFY,ENVIR=DELETE,ACEE=@ACEE if the create worked? Should work on all security systems. On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 20:03:07 -0500 Sam Golob wrote: :>Dear Folks, :> :>     I am just trying to

Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-09 Thread Sam Golob
Dear Folks,     I am just trying to get a very old program to work.  It is so old, that it mucks with the TSB password field, and I don't want to deal with that.  I don't care to reveal the password anywhere.  I just want the user to enter a password, and the security system should say "GO"

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-09 Thread Frank Swarbrick
ibrary. www.ibm.com From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 11:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Code to verify LOGON password On Sat, 9 Ja

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 00:12:07 -0600, Brian Westerman wrote: > >With some restrictions, I think that just issuing the RACROUT request=verify, >would be okay. There should probably be some mechanism to revoke the ID if >there are two many guesses though. > Among these, I wonder about MFA. Does

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-09 Thread Tom Brennan
2:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Code to verify LOGON password **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** Dear Folks, Does anyone have user-written code for RACF, so that if the user types in a password,

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-09 Thread Joel C. Ewing
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Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-08 Thread Itschak Mugzach
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Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-08 Thread Tom Brennan
--Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sam Golob Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 12:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Code to verify LOGON password **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpect

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-08 Thread Brian Westerman
IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >Sam Golob >Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 12:19 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Code to verify LOGON password > >**CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > >**DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpec

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-08 Thread Jousma, David
12:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Code to verify LOGON password **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** Dear Folks,     Does anyone have user-written code for RACF, so that if the user types in a password

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-08 Thread Kirk Wolf
/* Check password for a userid. Note: requires program-controlled environment To build: c99 -o checkpass checkpass.c i extattr +p checkpass */ #define _POSIX_SOURCE #include #include #include #include #include #include int main(int argc, char** argv) { if (argc != 3) {

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-08 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 12:19, Sam Golob wrote: > Does anyone have user-written code for RACF, so that if the user > types in a password, the code will verify if it is the user's actual > LOGON password? More detailed specs, please. Are you fundamentally looking for sample code to learn

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-08 Thread Charles Mills
avoiding revocation. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sam Golob Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Code to verify LOGON password Dear Folks, Does anyone have user

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-08 Thread Carmen Vitullo
The code I have was / is very old for mid 90's to validate CATIA userid's using RACF, if you want I can provide as is   Carmen Vitullo -Original Message- From: Sam To: IBM-MAIN Date: Friday, 8 January 2021 11:20 AM CST Subject: Code to verify LOGON password Dear Folks

Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:19:28 -0500, Sam Golob wrote: > >     Does anyone have user-written code for RACF, so that if the user >types in a password, the code will verify if it is the user's actual >LOGON password? > >     I'd like to see code that does this, for ACF2 and Top Secret as >well, but I'm

Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-08 Thread Sam Golob
Dear Folks,     Does anyone have user-written code for RACF, so that if the user types in a password, the code will verify if it is the user's actual LOGON password?     I'd like to see code that does this, for ACF2 and Top Secret as well, but I'm primarily interested in RACF.     Thank