Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 08:47:27 -0500, Steve Harner wrote: >(a) When SKK was sold in 1986, ACF2 had a 60% market share while IBM’s RACF >and CA’s Top Secret split the other 40%; and (b) Cur

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-10 Thread R.S.
Just to complement: RACF, TSS and ACF2 were not the only choice. Here, in Poland many installation had been using polish security product called PIES (eng. DOG). Now, AFAIK there is (still) one small TSS shop, all the rest use RACF. Few years ago I saw some announcement of DEADBOLT, product of

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Timothy Sipples
Tony Harminc wrote: >Only IBM is in a position to truly know the market share, because only >they know exactly how many z/OS systems are out there. Not truly, not exactly. IBM's omnipotence is routinely overestimated. ;) IBM presumably knows how many z/OS licensees(*) are licensing the z/OS Secur

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 20:40:49 +0300, Itschak Mugzach wrote: >The market is is split between TSS & RACF. I know of only one ACF2 site, >but they droped the mainframe... Interesting - as I said I have never seen TSS in any shop in Aus. Just never got a foothold here. That includes major banks and g

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Scott Ford
Yeah I think our numbers are larger on RACF and yes we have some large TSS shops as well as RACF On Wednesday, September 9, 2015, Rob Schramm wrote: > I think the numbers would need one more delineation. My understanding is > that TS is also in a lot of z/VSE. Which changes the results for the

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Rob Schramm
I think the numbers would need one more delineation. My understanding is that TS is also in a lot of z/VSE. Which changes the results for the question "how many mainframe installations of TS are there?" Of course if you add in z/VM, it might change things again. I was under the impression that t

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 September 2015 at 09:47, Steve Harner wrote: > I am interested in determining/clarifying what the current market share > breakdown is for EACH of the three > z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret. Only IBM is in a position to truly know the market share, because only they know

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Itschak Mugzach
nesday, September 09, 2015 11:37 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM > products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret > > Yes, we have customers running TSS. I could (but won't LOL) name a very > large bank. > &g

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Gross, Randall [PRI-1PP]
r 09, 2015 11:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret Yes, we have customers running TSS. I could (but won't LOL) name a very large bank. Charles -Original Message-

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Charles Mills
A.EDU Subject: Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 08:47:27 -0500, Steve Harner wrote: >(a) When SKK was sold in 1986, ACF2 had a 60% market share while IBM’s RACF >and CA’s Top Secret split the other

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Steve Conway
e_con...@ao.uscourts.gov From: Shane Ginnane To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 09/09/2015 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Wed, 9 Sep

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 08:47:27 -0500, Steve Harner wrote: >(a) When SKK was sold in 1986, ACF2 had a 60% market share while IBM’s RACF >and CA’s Top Secret split the other 40%; and (b) Currently , RACF has 75% >market share while ACF2 and Top Secret from CA share the other 25 percent. Does anyone

Re: Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Thomas Conley
On 9/9/2015 9:57 AM, Steve Harner wrote: I am interested in determining/clarifying what the current market share breakdown is for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret. In his 5/24/12 interview with Jeffrey R. Yost, Ph.D. (conservancy.umn.edu/bitstream/handle/112

Current market share breakdown for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret

2015-09-09 Thread Steve Harner
I am interested in determining/clarifying what the current market share breakdown is for EACH of the three z/OS ESM products: RACF, CA-ACF2 and CA-Top Secret. In his 5/24/12 interview with Jeffrey R. Yost, Ph.D. (conservancy.umn.edu/bitstream/handle/11299/132470/oh404bs.pdf), Barry Schrager not