Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Farley, Peter
the issue. Peter From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 6:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dataset File System On 12/23/2023 9:20 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 08:17:44 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >>

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 15:37:26 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: > >Having relatively-expensive high-speed SSD DASD supplemented with plenty >of relatively-cheap spinning-disk DASD and letting HSM (or whatever you >use) transparently "transition" data sets from SSD to spinning-disk (and >vice versa) based

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/23/2023 9:20 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 08:17:44 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: I realize migrate/recall is somewhat "old fashioned" but we still do it and I suspect others do as well. What's the modern alternative? Having relatively-expensive high-speed SSD DASD

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 15:08:14 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >It works fine > Even for round trip: sftp get DSFS1; sftp put DSFS2? Are the items bit-for-bit identical? Even for program objects? Similarly, can pax archive and restore a DSFS hierarchy? Or copy DSFS<->z/FS? >> On Dec 23, 2023,

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Lionel B Dyck
o: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Dataset File System > > I’ve experimented with it and found it has great potential. I also wrote > this > https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck2/2023/10/20/data-set-file-system-aka-dsfs-simplified-

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Frank Swarbrick
File System I’ve experimented with it and found it has great potential. I also wrote this https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck2/2023/10/20/data-set-file-system-aka-dsfs-simplified-administr Lionel B. Dyck < Website: GitHub.com/lbdyck Sent from my iPhone

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread suresh chacko
. Character is what > you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Ed Jaffe > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 10:18 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Sub

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Mike Schwab
1, list datasets. 2 For each dataset, 2A recall, 2B process, ?2C migrate? 3. consolidate results from 2B. 4. bonus to recall all from 1 volume at once. On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 11:20 AM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 08:17:44 -0800,

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
U Subject: Re: Dataset File System On 12/22/2023 3:37 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > Has anyone made use of DSFS yet? How do you like it? Are there any caveats > or other weirdness? I really like DSFS, but it has one major failing: migrated data sets. If a data set is migrated, it becomes

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Tom Brennan
Side note: It's interesting you mentioned grep because the first time I saw DSFS that's the command I wanted to run, to do searching that has always been a bit difficult in MVS but easy in Unix. On 12/23/2023 8:17 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 12/22/2023 3:37 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Has anyone

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 08:17:44 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: > >I really like DSFS, but it has one major failing: migrated data sets. > >Therefore, if you wish to grep through a directory or something like >that, you must first prepare the environment by recalling everything. >That's inconvenient. > Once

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/22/2023 3:37 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Has anyone made use of DSFS yet? How do you like it? Are there any caveats or other weirdness? I really like DSFS, but it has one major failing: migrated data sets. If a data set is migrated, it becomes 100% invisible to DSFS. If you can't see

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 08:46:41 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >IBM does provide a z/OS Data Set File System Administration and a z/OS Data >Set File System Messages and Codes. There is no Users Guide because there is >no real need once one understands how it works. > ??? That is true of any

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-23 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
rely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 7:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dataset File System On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 17:40:43 -0600, Lionel B D

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 17:40:43 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >I’ve experimented with it and found it has great potential. I also wrote this >https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck2/2023/10/20/data-set-file-system-aka-dsfs-simplified-administr > Which begins:

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-22 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I'll give it a read. Thanks! Frank From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 4:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dataset File System I’ve experimented with it and found it has great potential

Re: Dataset File System

2023-12-22 Thread Lionel B Dyck
I’ve experimented with it and found it has great potential. I also wrote this https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck2/2023/10/20/data-set-file-system-aka-dsfs-simplified-administr Lionel B. Dyck < Website: GitHub.com/lbdyck Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Worry

Dataset File System

2023-12-22 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Has anyone made use of DSFS yet? How do you like it? Are there any caveats or other weirdness? Frank -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: