AW: Re: Exclusive ENQ on a TSO logon procedure

2016-07-19 Thread Peter Hunkeler
​>As as aside on this, as I understand it, this only applies to data sets >allocated via JCL. That is, if you allocate a PROCLIB inside the JES2PARM >(see below), the DSNs listed do have, and keep, the normal allocation (SHR >as I recall when JES2 does the DYNALLOC). This is true but the de

Re: Exclusive ENQ on a TSO logon procedure

2016-07-19 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > > >If a user logs on, it is JES2 that reads the logonproc from PROCLIB, > which it already has allocated (as you >mentioned). Kind of a chicken and > egg problem: how can a user logon without having read the logonproc? > >Kees. > > > >Oh y

AW: Re: Exclusive ENQ on a TSO logon procedure

2016-07-19 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>If a user logs on, it is JES2 that reads the logonproc from PROCLIB, which it >already has allocated (as you >mentioned). Kind of a chicken and egg problem: >how can a user logon without having read the logonproc? >Kees. > >Oh yeah..You are right.. . That explains why User C was able to log on

Re: Exclusive ENQ on a TSO logon procedure

2016-07-19 Thread Roger Steyn
If a user logs on, it is JES2 that reads the logonproc from PROCLIB, which it already has allocated (as you mentioned). Kind of a chicken and egg problem: how can a user logon without having read the logonproc? Kees. Oh yeah..You are right.. . That explains why User C was able to log on . Than

Re: Exclusive ENQ on a TSO logon procedure

2016-07-19 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger Steyn Sent: 19 July, 2016 11:25 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Exclusive ENQ on a TSO logon procedure There is a big difference between a job allocating a proclib with DISP=OLD and a user editing a logonproc with ISPF. The job with DISP=OLD

Re: Exclusive ENQ on a TSO logon procedure

2016-07-19 Thread Roger Steyn
There is a big difference between a job allocating a proclib with DISP=OLD and a user editing a logonproc with ISPF. The job with DISP=OLD blocks the entire proclib. ISPF issues an ENQ with DISP=SHR on the proclib and issues its own ENQ on the member with DISP=OLD. This way the library

Re: Exclusive ENQ on a TSO logon procedure

2016-07-19 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
10:20 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Exclusive ENQ on a TSO logon procedure Greetings ,  Can somebody tell me what if a proclib containing a TSO logon procedure has got a DISP=OLD in a user submitted JCL or if somebody opens a logon procedure in ISPF edit mode  and keep it that way for

Exclusive ENQ on a TSO logon procedure

2016-07-19 Thread Roger Steyn
Greetings ,  Can somebody tell me what if a proclib containing a TSO logon procedure has got a DISP=OLD in a user submitted JCL or if somebody opens a logon procedure in ISPF edit mode  and keep it that way for few hours. Will the rest of the users be able to log on using the same logon procedur