Re: IBM Hardware Lifecycle list?

2018-02-07 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 2/7/2018 1:11 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Or IBM-MAIN members asking for help on something which is really out of support, something like this familiar plea for help "Please help me with an abend in program X in language Y in MVS or OS/390 or z/OS " ;-) ... which reminds me that I

Re: IBM Hardware Lifecycle list?

2018-02-07 Thread Mike Schwab
Used mainframes are usually available for about another decade, just can't upgrade the LIC. And z13 will still run 31 bit operating systems. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:47 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > Sri h Kolusu wrote: >

Re: IBM Hardware Lifecycle list?

2018-02-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
IBM Tech Doc # TD105503 is really quite excellent. I'd like to point out that there are other possible definitions of "lifecycle" that are situational and also quite important. Here are some notable examples: * design resiliency * economic * security * regulatory * software/operating system

Re: IBM Hardware Lifecycle list?

2018-02-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jack J. Woehr wrote: >> "Historically each mainframe generation has had a long life from general >> availability to service discontinuance, averaging over 11 years." >Historically, each mainframe generation has had a long life: from general >availability, to service discontinuance, to people

Re: IBM Hardware Lifecycle list?

2018-02-06 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 2/6/2018 11:47 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: "Historically each mainframe generation has had a long life from general availability to service discontinuance, averaging over 11 years." Historically, each mainframe generation has had a long life: from general availability, to service

Re: IBM Hardware Lifecycle list?

2018-02-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Sri h Kolusu wrote: >https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/TD105503 Amazing! Thanks Sri for you kind help. I find this quote very interesting: "Historically each mainframe generation has had a long life from general availability to service discontinuance, averaging

Re: IBM Hardware Lifecycle list?

2018-02-06 Thread Sri h Kolusu
: 02/06/2018 03:15 PM > Subject: IBM Hardware Lifecycle list? > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > Hello all, I am looking for a webpage that has the GA and EOS dates for the > various IBM z Mainframes. Is there a page like > http://www-01.ibm.

IBM Hardware Lifecycle list?

2018-02-06 Thread Bill Ashton
Hello all, I am looking for a webpage that has the GA and EOS dates for the various IBM z Mainframes. Is there a page like http://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/index_a_z.html except for hardware instead of software? Thanks! Billy -- Thank you and best regards, *Billy Ashton*