Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2022-11-16 Thread Clem Clarke
potential features. Call me at 317 903-9455 anytime. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Domenico D'Alterio Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 8:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter Hello L

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2022-11-15 Thread
t: Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter Hello List, I see that the IBM announcement https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/649/ENUSA21-0533/index.html&lang=en&request_locale=en triggered a lot of questions. I am the Senior Prod

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
[IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 2:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 14:42:57 +, Seymour J Metz wrot

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 14:42:57 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >DCB=(LRECL=256,BLKSIZE=256) works well. I've' also used KEYLEN=8, However, is >there any reason not to use DESERV for new code? > Rexx? Pipelines? -- gil -- For IBM-MAI

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
UA.EDU] on behalf of Rupert Reynolds [rreyno...@cix.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter >From memory, I'm pretty sure I've done the same thing (LRECL and BKSIZE 256) in compi

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-08 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I would be interested in participating in a conf call or a private call with developers thank you Carmen On 10/8/2021 7:55 AM, Domenico D'Alterio wrote: Hello List, I see that the IBM announcement https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/649/ENUSA21-0533/index.h

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-08 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
Domenic, Tell me more, please. Mitch Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Friday, October 8, 2021, 8:05 AM, Domenico D'Alterio wrote: Hello List, I see that the IBM announcement https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/649/ENUSA21-0533/index.html&lang=en&re

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-08 Thread Domenico D'Alterio
Hello List, I see that the IBM announcement https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/649/ENUSA21-0533/index.html&lang=en&request_locale=en triggered a lot of questions. I am the Senior Product Manager in IBM working on this new project, so it will be a completely ne

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-07 Thread Sasso, Len
TERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter [External: Use caution with links & attachments] Hi Brian, That was part of why I posed the initial question. Is IBM repackaging/reselling JED (or some other JCL checker) or are they rolling their own? Guess we&

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-07 Thread Pommier, Rex
ales calls please..., we're not at that point) so the announcement piqued my interest. Thanks, Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian Westerman Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 12:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Ex

Re: [IBM External] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-07 Thread Martin Packer
www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: "Bob Bridges" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 06/10/2021 14:57 Subject: [IBM External] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter Sent by:"IBM Mainframe Discussion List"

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Windt, W.K.F. van der (Fred)
DD DSN=&DSN, //DISP=SHR -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: woensdag 6 oktober 2021 20:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter My favorite layout is th

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Brian Westerman
I don't get it, JED is not an IBM product. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Bob Bridges
I get that that makes it easier to make changes. But I value screen space too much to go for that; I want each DD to take up one or three rows, no more whenever possible. It's not always possible, of course, but when I can. I know I'm in the minority, but I do the same thing when coding. If som

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Skip Robinson
avid Spiegel > Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 7:33 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter > > Hi Bob, > I learned JCL in the mid '70s (45 years ago). > Placing DISP first makes the JCL line up a lot more than p

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 10:12:53 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >I am a fan of DSN last, or at least last on a line, because it is the one >thing that seems to change the most, or change when you clone a job, and when >it changes, the length of the operand often changes. > Changing operand lengths shou

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Charles Mills
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 7:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter Hi Bob, I learned JCL in the mid '70s (45 years ago). Placing DISP first makes the JCL line up a lot

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:45:25 +0100, Rupert Reynolds wrote: > >Out of date, I'm guessing there are handy routines to read PDS directories >for us these days, and PDSE too? (Newer than ISPF LM*, I mean). > PDSE directoeies can be read with LRECL=256. I suspect it's compatibility magic. I don't know

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Rupert Reynolds
>From memory, I'm pretty sure I've done the same thing (LRECL and BKSIZE 256) in compiled code, allocated both via JCL and via SVC 99. Out of date, I'm guessing there are handy routines to read PDS directories for us these days, and PDSE too? (Newer than ISPF LM*, I mean). Roops On Wed., Oct. 6,

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter Hi Bob, I'm in your boat but trying to transition to Gil's. :-) Much easier to change DSN if it's the last parameter on the line. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainf

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, That's why I said "usually". Another is a Model DSCB (usually required for GDG Bases). Regards, David On 2021-10-06 11:19, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 10:33:14 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: ... Besides not needing DCB, DSORG is usually useless as well. Perhaps useless

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 10:33:14 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: >... >Besides not needing DCB, DSORG is usually useless as well. > Perhaps useless in JCL. In Rexx I've needed to code DSORG(PS) to read a PDS directory. -- gil -- Fo

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 14:13:18 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: >Hi Bob, >I'm in your boat but trying to transition to Gil's. :-) Much easier to >change DSN if it's the last parameter on the line. > ... Or on a separate continuation line, which I sometimes prefer. And I've wished for a JCL NULL opti

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Colin Paice
-- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Mike Schwab > Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 1:59 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter > > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > > https://www-356.ibm.com/partner

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, I learned JCL in the mid '70s (45 years ago). Placing DISP first makes the JCL line up a lot more than placing DSN first. Besides not needing DCB, DSORG is usually useless as well. Regards, David On 2021-10-06 09:57, Bob Bridges wrote: Just a side comment, you may be in the minority put

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
ts I would expect good things of it. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 1:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter EXTERNAL EMAIL

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Colin Paice
kind of stuff. > > > > Rex > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf > Of Paul Gilmartin > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 7:32 AM > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter Just a side comment, you may be in the minority putting DISP first, but the minority isn't tiny; my observation is that a lot of folks do it. I sometimes do myself -- I like making parm

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Bob Bridges
Just a side comment, you may be in the minority putting DISP first, but the minority isn't tiny; my observation is that a lot of folks do it. I sometimes do myself -- I like making parms line up, it often makes them easier to read -- but alas, my habit is still to put it after the DSN. Always

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread kekronbekron
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of > Paul Gilmartin > > Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 7:32 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter > > On Wed, 6 Oct 2021

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
e relative location or starting in the same column. That kind of stuff. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 7:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today'

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 06:58:56 +0100, Mike Schwab wrote: > > "www-356.ibm.com"!? JED provides complete JCL validation, reformatting and enforcement of JCL standards. ... What's a "standard" Supp

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-05 Thread Peter Vels
https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/8/872/ENUSAP21-0338/index.html&lang=en&request_locale=en On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 16:59, Mike Schwab wrote: > > https://www-356.ibm.com/partnerworld/gsd/solutiondetails.do?solution=37147&expand=true&lc=en > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 a

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-05 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www-356.ibm.com/partnerworld/gsd/solutiondetails.do?solution=37147&expand=true&lc=en On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 6:25 AM Brian Westerman wrote: > > Do you have the announcement link you can post. I didn't see any today about > a JCL checker. > > Brian > >

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-05 Thread Brian Westerman
Do you have the announcement link you can post. I didn't see any today about a JCL checker. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-05 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi list, Does anybody have any insight they could share about the announcement IBM made today about a JCL checker they're planning on releasing Q1 2022? I'm curious if this is something IBM is developing or if they have partnered with one of the third party JCL checkers and will be reselling i