Re: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded.

2022-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
o:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 2:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded. No it isn’t just a financial thing. They transferred the money & liabilities to a firm that thinks it can turn a profit on

Re: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded.

2022-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded. No it isn’t just a financial thing. They transferred the money & liabilities to a firm that thinks it can turn a profit on the investment. The current IBM pension liability was over funded. (Over 100%) If the ne

Re: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded.

2022-09-14 Thread Charles Mills
) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 2:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded. No it isn’t just a financial thing. They t

Re: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded.

2022-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
AIG was so bad in 2007-08 the government had to bail them out to the tune of 85 billion and 80% government ownership. And they were America’s largest insurer.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 5:47 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: On Wed, 14 Sept 2022 at 17:02,

Re: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded.

2022-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
who is in that business. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 1:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded. I’m shocked the IBM ha

Re: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded.

2022-09-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 14 Sept 2022 at 17:02, Charles Mills wrote: > It's purely a financial thing, right? Like if they had moved their > checking account from Chase to Wells? > > Pensioners should not see any significant change. These are defined > benefit plans: you get $X/month no matter who pays the bills

Re: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded.

2022-09-14 Thread Charles Mills
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM pension 16 billion offloaded. I’m shocked the IBM haters haven’t mentioned IBM’s announcement today regarding offloading 16 billion in pension liabilities. https://www.pionline.com/pension-risk-transfer/ibm-offloads-16-billion-pension-liabilities-annuity-purchases

IBM pension 16 billion offloaded.

2022-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
I’m shocked the IBM haters haven’t mentioned IBM’s announcement today regarding offloading 16 billion in pension liabilities. https://www.pionline.com/pension-risk-transfer/ibm-offloads-16-billion-pension-liabilities-annuity-purchases