Nothing I said was meant as criticism of the OP's question. And I said
nothing like your imaginary quote about anything.
What I did mean to imply is that DD DDNAME= is nothing like pipes, nor any
sense of "routing" I know of. As for its usefulness, I have myself found
it useful in some (rare)
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:14:10 -0400, Charles Mills wrote:
>there is often a good reason were you to understand the OP's
>entire situation and constraints.
I agree. In this case, I don't remember the OP telling us what
his situation and constraints are, though there was a lot of
speculation
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:14:10 -0400, Charles Mills wrote:
>Au contraire. It is often useful. I see it used in cataloged procs all the
>time. And I would be confident that Itschak knows what it does.
>
However, I once tried to use it by overriding a DD in a cataloged PROC
with DDNAME= so I could
n were you to
understand the OP's entire situation and constraints.
Charles
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Well, yet another typical IBM-MAIN thread. Speculation, tangents,
assumptions, misconceptions, irrelevancies, etc.
As to the long-forgotten original question, JCL DDNAME is a rarely useful
feature. It is supported by neither DYNALLOC
Well, yet another typical IBM-MAIN thread. Speculation, tangents,
assumptions, misconceptions, irrelevancies, etc.
As to the long-forgotten original question, JCL DDNAME is a rarely useful
feature. It is supported by neither DYNALLOC nor ALLOCATE. I'm not sure
what the OP thinks it does, but it
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 21:38:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
When does SMP/E ATTACH two utilities concurrently? AFAIK it only attaches them
consecutively.
I know that if I DDDEF SYSPRINT SYSOUT, SMP/E uses generated DDNAMEs instead
and reports those names in SMPLOG or SMPOUT. I have no assurance
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I wish people would usr the traditional ">" quotation marks to
distinguish citation depth.
On Wed, 23 Oct 20
I wish people would usr the traditional ">" quotation marks to
distinguish citation depth.
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 20:25:47 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>I've written plenty of code that invokes language processors and other
>utilities in a batch environment, as have others, and I'd be very
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My game is to use what the client is licensed to.
ITschak
בתאריך יום ד׳, 23 באוק׳ 2019, 23:26, מאת Seymour J Metz :
> I've written plenty of code that invokes language processors and other
> utilities in a batch environment, a
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>I agree that IBM should provide a means to dynamical
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:54:51 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 17:34:37 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
>>I agree that IBM should provide a means to dynamically assign an alias to a
>>ddname, but IMHO ATTACH is the wrong
Paul, this is just an example. In the specific case, i changed the original
dd name.we does a lot of budget shrinking projects by converting expensive
products to cheaper ones, or even to alternatives such as rexx depending on
client requirements. The issue is that the conversion program we
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 22:02:03 +0300, ITschak Mugzach wrote:
>For example, you have a ddname concatenating five datasets. now you need to
>sort the files, so you need to allocate them to SORTIN. Can do, but piping
>is much better.
>
Why is your DDNAME not SORTIN to start with? (I know there are
For example, you have a ddname concatenating five datasets. now you need to
sort the files, so you need to allocate them to SORTIN. Can do, but piping
is much better.
ITschak
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:52 PM Tom Marchant <
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> On Wed, 23 Oct
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:54:51 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 17:34:37 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
>>I agree that IBM should provide a means to dynamically assign an alias to a
>>ddname, but IMHO ATTACH is the wrong place to do it. DYNALLOC would seems to
>>be the obvious
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 17:34:37 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>I agree that IBM should provide a means to dynamically assign an alias to a
>ddname, but IMHO ATTACH is the wrong place to do it. DYNALLOC would seems to
>be the obvious place to do it.
>
An imporrtant use of alternate DDNAMEs is
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:54:13 +0300, ITschak Mugzach wrote:
>Jcl allows "routing" on DD name to another using DDNAME= opeerand. is there
>an equivalent in tso? I remember TSO PIPE, but this was not a standard TSO
>command (CBTTAPE maybe).
What problem are you trying to solve?
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Jcl allows "routing" on DD name to another using DDNAME= opeerand. is there
an equivalent in tso? I remembe
Technically it os not an issue, but I would expect a native support for
tso.
בתאריך יום ד׳, 23 באוק׳ 2019, 13:54, מאת ITschak Mugzach <
imugz...@gmail.com>:
> Jcl allows "routing" on DD name to another using DDNAME= opeerand. is
> there an equivalent in tso? I remember TSO PIPE, but this was
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:54:13 +0300, I
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:54:13 +0300, ITschak Mugzach wrote:
>Jcl allows "routing" on DD name to another using DDNAME= opeerand. is there
>an equivalent in tso? I remember TSO PIPE, but this was not a standard TSO
>command (CBTTAPE maybe).
>
Perhaps the elusive CMS/TSO Pipelines, formerly
Jcl allows "routing" on DD name to another using DDNAME= opeerand. is there
an equivalent in tso? I remember TSO PIPE, but this was not a standard TSO
command (CBTTAPE maybe).
ITschak
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