Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Jay Maynard
18 Sept 2022 at 19:00, Bill Johnson < > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > I had a class on medical terminology when I worked at a hospital. No need > > to learn Latin. While Latin might make some feel superior, learning > Spanish > > or Chi

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Bill Johnson
gt; to learn Latin. While Latin might make some feel superior, learning Spanish > or Chinese would probably be far more useful. Most Americans are pathetic, > unilingual speakers, while most of the world is multilingual. Having > travelled throughout the world, I’m happy most speak Engl

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On Sun, 18 Sept 2022 at 19:00, Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I had a class on medical terminology when I worked at a hospital. No need > to learn Latin. While Latin might make some feel superior, learning Spanish > or Chinese would proba

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Bill Johnson
I had a class on medical terminology when I worked at a hospital. No need to learn Latin. While Latin might make some feel superior, learning Spanish or Chinese would probably be far more useful. Most Americans are pathetic, unilingual speakers, while most of the world is multilingual. Having

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Bob Bridges
in high school now made perfect sense to me. A prof at a medical college is supposed to have remarked that he can always tell the students who've taken Latin or Greek; when he names a bone or organ, often their eyes light up with comprehension. I'm not a medical student, but with a very little

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Bob Bridges
There's an English version ("Oh come, all ye faithful"). But of course it isn't an exact translation, and anyway sometimes I just ~like~ the Latin words. "Deum de Deo, lumen de lumine, deum verum, genitum non factum; venite adoremus...". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gma

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
uot;, indeed :). I never took Latin (and I was astonished when I learned that my youngest daughter was taking it in high school; I thought it had long disappeared entirely from the public schools, but apparently not), and my upbringing was Episcopal not Catholic, so I never experienced the liturg

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Mary Kay Tubello
I am grateful that I took four years of Latin in high school. It helps so much with English and other languages too! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 9:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Latin

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Tom Brennan
The last Dominus vobiscum was about all I remember, because it woke me up around time to go home :) On 9/18/2022 6:17 AM, Bob Bridges wrote: "Emmanuel", indeed :). I never took Latin (and I was astonished when I learned that my youngest daughter was taking it in high school; I thou

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
Given how much scientific nomenclature derives from Greek and Latin, I don't see either as obsolete, and Latin might help the learning of other Romance languages. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joel C. Ewing [jce.ebe...@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Latin In the 1960's Latin was still highly recommended in the U.S. for anyone expecting to attend college. If you started in 9th grade

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Joel, To your point, I read an article on German grammar (same as Yiddish) to figure out the difference between "mir" and "mich". It turns out that one is dative and the other is accusative. Without learning Latin (more than 50 years ago), this article would've been a

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Joel C. Ewing
In the 1960's Latin was still highly recommended in the U.S. for anyone expecting to attend college.   If you started in 9th grade, you could even take 4 years of Latin by graduation from high school, although many college-bound students elected only 2 and took either some French or Spanish

Latin

2022-09-18 Thread Bob Bridges
"Emmanuel", indeed :). I never took Latin (and I was astonished when I learned that my youngest daughter was taking it in high school; I thought it had long disappeared entirely from the public schools, but apparently not), and my upbringing was Episcopal not Catholic, so I never e

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York TimesThat'

2022-07-12 Thread David Crayford
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 4:50 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York > TimesThat' > > Or as I said in 1974 > > https

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York TimesThat'

2022-07-12 Thread Charles Mills
Sorry 'bout the link. How about https://bit.ly/3z2y5XO Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 4:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York TimesThat'

2022-07-12 Thread Charles Mills
5:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York TimesThat' That's a lesson that they learned on Multics way back one; worry about the design first. During an I/O redesign, they wrote PL/I code to replace code originally written in ALM

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York TimesThat'

2022-07-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Colin Paice [colinpai...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 1:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NOTSP The Latin

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-12 Thread David Crayford
ww.ibm.com/docs/en/om-im/5.6.0?topic=monitor-getting-started Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Andrew Rowley Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 6:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NOTSP The Latin of Sof

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-11 Thread Colin Paice
My comments about 1. A million times a second... etc Were from about 30 years ago, before optimization improved. I know that the "hot" instruction for MQ on z/OS that showed up in profiling, was the Load/Update Address of the next free slot in the trace buffer in ECSA. When there were many

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-11 Thread Charles Mills
ent fields in the same section, it had to decode the relevant triplet twice. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Andrew Rowley Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 6:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NOTSP

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-10 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 9/07/2022 1:10 am, Colin Paice wrote: I was told If it executes 1. a million times a second - write in assembler 2. a thousand times a second write it in cobol or C 3. once a second - write it in Java 4. Else /bash/rexx/ Probably not an accurate picture these days. It would

Re: AW: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
du/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Leonard D Woren [ibm-main...@ldworen.net] Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 3:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: AW: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - Th

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-10 Thread Rony
> Am 08.07.2022 um 17:10 schrieb Colin Paice : > > I was told > If it executes > > 1. a million times a second - write in assembler > 2. a thousand times a second write it in cobol or C > 3. once a second - write it in Java > 4. Else /bash/rexx/ > > Though if it executes once a year

Re: AW: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-10 Thread Leonard D Woren
: Friday, July 08, 2022 7:37 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times It's *so* weird! Imagine writing this: "Sarah, age 23, rejected her college advisor's career advice and started work at Boeing in Seattle last year. Her fr

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-08 Thread Steve Beaver
Enterprise PL/I -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 10:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times +1

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-08 Thread David Spiegel
+1 On 2022-07-08 10:51, Dave Jones wrote: Timothy Sipples said: "Which leads to an interesting thought exercise. In 2022 if you're trying to choose a programming language for business application programming that stands the best chance of being durable (being realistically maintainable,

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-08 Thread Colin Paice
I was told If it executes 1. a million times a second - write in assembler 2. a thousand times a second write it in cobol or C 3. once a second - write it in Java 4. Else /bash/rexx/ Though if it executes once a year and runs for a week- I might look at C Colin On Fri, 8 Jul 2022

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-08 Thread Dave Jones
Timothy Sipples said: "Which leads to an interesting thought exercise. In 2022 if you're trying to choose a programming language for business application programming that stands the best chance of being durable (being realistically maintainable, extendable, enhance-able) for the next 40+ years

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-08 Thread Bob Bridges
LOL, I really enjoyed this. I've probably posted it here before, but an old joke: Jack was a COBOL programmer in the late 1990s who (after years of being taken for granted and treated as a technological dinosaur by all the UNIX programmers and Client/Server programmers and website developers,

AW: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-07 Thread Mike Beer
Sipples Gesendet: Friday, July 08, 2022 7:37 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times It's *so* weird! Imagine writing this: "Sarah, age 23, rejected her college advisor's career advice and started work at Boeing in Seattle

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
It's *so* weird! Imagine writing this: "Sarah, age 23, rejected her college advisor's career advice and started work at Boeing in Seattle last year. Her friends who mainly pursued careers in banking and law outright laugh at her for designing airplanes, the antiquated vehicles invented well

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-07 Thread Charles Mills
The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times Next time you laugh at musty old tech, remember that new technologies are often built on it. Caitlin Mooney is 24 years old and infatuated with technology that dates to the age of Sputnik. Mooney, a recent New Jersey Institute

NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-06 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Next time you laugh at musty old tech, remember that new technologies are often built on it. Caitlin Mooney is 24 years old and infatuated with technology that dates to the age of Sputnik. Mooney, a recent New Jersey Institute of Technology graduate in computer science, is a fan of