Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-06-02 Thread David Crayford
ERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Linda Chui Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 12:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:27:06 +0800, David Crayford wrote: On 6/04/2021 9:53 pm, Charles Mills w

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-05-31 Thread Linda Chui
iginal Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Linda Chui >> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 12:11 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-29 Thread David Crayford
ERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:27:06 +0800, David Crayford wrote: On 6/04/2021 9:53 pm, Charles Mills wrote: You don't use templates I certainly do use templates. Not sure how you get "don'

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-29 Thread Charles Mills
Chui Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 12:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:27:06 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >On 6/04/2021 9:53 pm, Charles Mills wrote: >>> You don't use te

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-29 Thread Linda Chui
> Behalf Of David Crayford >> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 5:15 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM >> System z Servers] >> >> On 6/04/2021 1:23 am, Charles Mills wrote: >&

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Stefan Skoglund [stefan.skogl...@agj.net] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 11:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] mån 2021-04-05 klockan 16:30 +

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-12 Thread Stefan Skoglund
mån 2021-04-05 klockan 16:30 + skrev Farley, Peter x23353: > True.  There is m4 in *ix systems and going back a long time there > was ML/1 (I think there was an academic book published on that one, I > think I have a copy somewhere around here).  Undoubtedly others I do > not know of or

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-08 Thread Charles Mills
3:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] On 6/04/2021 9:53 pm, Charles Mills wrote: >> You don't use templates > I certainly do use templates. Not sure how you get "don't use templates" fr

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-08 Thread David Crayford
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 5:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] On 6/04/2021 1:23 am, Charles Mills wrote:

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-06 Thread Charles Mills
on't see them as "competitive" (in a design sense) with macros. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 5:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Meta languages [was:

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-06 Thread David Crayford
harles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Serve

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-06 Thread Peter Sylvester
hi, m4 is text substitution. 25 years ago we used it to create web pages. The same text to create the web and a a paper version. when you give some company "flyer" (5 pages) to clients, you may be interested to have semantically very similar info in the web, don't you. m4 was also used in

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] > But IMHO none easy to learn or use. I am generally not a fan of m

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 10:23:58 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >#ifdef WIN32 >static const bool IsZOS = false; >#else >static const bool IsZOS = true; >#endif > Hmmm ... Anything that isn't WIN32 is z/OS. ∴ Linux == z/OS; (Granted, I'm unfamiliar with your environment.) But I once on a FOSS project

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] I am helping support a customer that has XBOL which generates COBOL. The original developer has passed away, but my client has the source. We have had to make changes for 'gone' COBOL verbs

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 1:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] I am helping support a customer that has XBOL which generates

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Charles Mills
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] True. There is m4 in *ix systems and going back a long time there was ML/1 (I think there was an academic book published on that one,

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:30:53 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >True. There is m4 in *ix systems and going back a long time there was ML/1 (I >think there was an academic book published on that one, I

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
du] Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] True. There is m4 in *ix systems and going back a long time there was ML/1 (I think there was an academic book published on that one

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
n List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers] On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:30:53

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
I am helping support a customer that has XBOL which generates COBOL. The original developer has passed away, but my client has the source. We have had to make changes for 'gone' COBOL verbs and such. I don't think CA's MetaCobol is currently marketed. I talked to them several years ago about

Re: Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:30:53 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >True. There is m4 in *ix systems and going back a long time there was ML/1 (I >think there was an academic book published on that one, I think I have a copy >somewhere around here). Undoubtedly others I do not know of or

Meta languages [was: RE: Assembler Language Programming for IBM System z Servers]

2021-04-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
True. There is m4 in *ix systems and going back a long time there was ML/1 (I think there was an academic book published on that one, I think I have a copy somewhere around here). Undoubtedly others I do not know of or remember. Probably also Wirth's "literate programming" suite, TeX I think