Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Edward Gould wrote: >At the time we were a medium to large DC in Chicago. If memory serves me 8 >sysprog types having said that we also had very low turnover (1 or 2 in the 10 >years I was there). One of my varied duties was creating TSO id’s . None >(maybe 2 others) of the others (except the s

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-14 Thread Edward Gould
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:59 PM, John Eells wrote: > > Password protection of catalogs has not been supported for some time now. > The current AMS book says: > > "Passwords are no longer honored for protecting a catalog, or data sets > contained in a catalog. If they are specified, they will be

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-14 Thread Edward Gould
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht > wrote: > > Warning! Edward and I am now hijacking this thread to discuss something very > odd/fishy... ;-D > > :-D *-D ;-D > > Edward Gould wrote: > >> Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update password on the mastercats. >> Worked l

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 18:59:22 -0500, John Eells wrote: > >"Passwords are no longer honored for protecting a catalog, or data sets >contained in a catalog. If they are specified, they will be ignored and >no message will be issued. Previously, passwords were ignored only for >SMS-managed data sets.

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-14 Thread John Eells
Password protection of catalogs has not been supported for some time now. The current AMS book says: "Passwords are no longer honored for protecting a catalog, or data sets contained in a catalog. If they are specified, they will be ignored and no message will be issued. Previously, password

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-14 Thread Edward Gould
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Edward Gould wrote: > > Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update password on the mastercats. > Worked like a charm for us. > > Ed >> On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht >> wrote: >> >> Jesse Robinson wrote: >> >>> And once you have all protectio

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Warning! Edward and I am now hijacking this thread to discuss something very odd/fishy... ;-D :-D *-D ;-D Edward Gould wrote: >Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update password on the mastercats. >Worked like a charm for us. Passwords? Hmmm, my very first boss (now dead) used that, but

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-14 Thread Edward Gould
Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update password on the mastercats. Worked like a charm for us. Ed > On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht > wrote: > > Jesse Robinson wrote: > >> And once you have all protections in place, remember that someone has to >> have the key to master

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jesse Robinson wrote: >And once you have all protections in place, remember that someone has to have >the key to master catalog. Whoever that is--including you--may occasionally >get caught by a missing alias. At every shop I've worked in, userids are >defined and managed by a non-sysprog depar

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread retired mainframer
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Way, Richard Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets? Realize this is a pretty basic question, but my Google-fu isn't working out today Can someone te

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
bject: (External):Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets? Way, Richard wrote: >Realize this is a pretty basic question, but my Google-fu isn't working out >today Can someone tell me the most common / easiest way to prevent >allocating a data set that doesn't have

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Way, Richard wrote: >Realize this is a pretty basic question, but my Google-fu isn't working out >today Can someone tell me the most common / easiest way to prevent >allocating a data set that doesn't have a catalog alias defined yet? We're >hitting situations where someone creates a data s

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread Eric Mendelson
Protect the master catalog Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 13, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:55:21 +, Way, Richard wrote: >> >> Realize this is a pretty basic question, but my Google-fu isn't working out

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread Pommier, Rex
2:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets? Realize this is a pretty basic question, but my Google-fu isn't working out today Can someone tell me the most common / easiest way to prevent allocating a data set that doesn't have a catal

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Your Welcome, I have those moments more now... Carmen - Original Message - From: "Richard Way" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:07:29 PM Subject: Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets? D'oh Thanks!!! Rich Way -O

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread Burrell, Todd
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets? What I've done in 2 shops was to protect the master cata

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread Way, Richard
D'oh Thanks!!! Rich Way -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets? What

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread Carmen Vitullo
: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets? Realize this is a pretty basic question, but my Google-fu isn't working out today Can someone tell me the most common / easiest way to prevent allocating a data set that doesn't have a catalog alias defined yet? We're hitting situ

Re: Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:55:21 +, Way, Richard wrote: >Realize this is a pretty basic question, but my Google-fu isn't working out >today Can someone tell me the most common / easiest way to prevent >allocating a data set that doesn't have a catalog alias defined yet? We're >hitting situa

Prevent allocation of unknown-HLQ data sets?

2016-12-13 Thread Way, Richard
Realize this is a pretty basic question, but my Google-fu isn't working out today Can someone tell me the most common / easiest way to prevent allocating a data set that doesn't have a catalog alias defined yet? We're hitting situations where someone creates a data set by the HLQ of "TEST",