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10:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about C++ On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Kirk Wolf <k...@dovetail.com> wrote: ... The people that I know that like C++ the most seem to appreciate its endless complexity. ... I might be a tiny bit guilty. But for real w

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On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Barkow, Eileen wrote: > It seems to me that java is becoming just as complex as C++, at least > what you have to know of it to pass the certification exam. > I have been studying some sample java certification exams and cannot >

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-$400 a pop to take, I think that some of them are just a money grabbing stunt. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about C

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On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: > ... The people that I know that like C++ the most seem to appreciate its > endless > complexity. ... I might be a tiny bit guilty. But for real work, I think the real genius is figuring out how to make a program as

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I would agree with some of what you say Steve, but I've used C++ for over 25 years and I still don't like it much :-) Other languages that I have used intensely like Smalltalk and Java eventually fade into the background after you master them. The people that I know that like C++ the most seem

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On Wed, 31 May 2017 06:06:39 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >The point of the OO constructs is not that there is no other way to do things. >Obviously, any object program that can be produced by a compiler could have >been written in HLASM. > ... but you may need to use the PUNCH statement. At

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utine. You just delete the class and if it has a destructor, it gets called. Voila! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

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r to it? What are the >> calling parameters? Or worse, I just realized I am going to need a cleanup >> routine for this record. Now I have to go back and make sure that every >> piece of code that uses it gets modified to call the cleanup routine. You >> just delete the class and if

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ehalf Of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about C++ On 30/05/2017 9:52 PM, Charles Mills wrote: You're trying to scare the poor man! After I learned OO, I realized the problem in trying to communicate the concepts. - The e

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Good spot! class file { typedef FILE *ptr; ptr wrapped_file; public: file(std::string const , std::string const = std::string("r")) : wrapped_file(fopen(name.c_str(), mode.c_str())) { } operator ptr() const { return wrapped_file; } ~file() { if

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On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:26 AM, David Crayford wrote: > I think I should have used the term object based for non-OO languages. > Scope based finalization is a sweet spot of C++ with scoped based > destructors. I'm coding a lot of Java at the moment and having to code >

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delete the class and if it has a destructor, it gets called. Voila! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question ab

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On 31/05/2017 8:13 AM, Steve Smith wrote: Eventually, the big problem with OOP is designing an intelligent class hierarchy to solve a particular problem. And that is where so many go wrong. The real world of applications rarely comes up with something as obvious as Thing:

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ginal Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about C++ On 30/05/2017 9:52 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > You're trying to scare the poor man! >

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@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about C++ Guys, Where does this old Dino find readable examples in OO programming say in c++? I am trying to learn it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

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gt; > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > > Behalf Of scott Ford > > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:58 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Question about C++ > > > > Guys, > > > > Where d

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A.EDU > Subject: Re: Question about C++ > > Guys, > > Where does this old Dino find readable examples in OO programming say in > c++? I am trying to learn it. > > Regards, > > Scott > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:46 PM David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wr

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littered throughout > which call different functions depending on some type which would > benefit from an OO design. > > > Charles > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Be

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depending on some type which would benefit from an OO design. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about C

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C++ is my favorite language (I was historically a PL/I fan), but it's a deep pool to get into. Decent object-oriented programming requires learning a whole bunch of new ways to do things, and think about things. There are many layers now of functionality, and there's no serious "Learn C++ In

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gt; -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:53 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Question about C++ > > You're trying to scare the poor man! > >

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and Automation – umdoitmetr...@missouri.edu -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about C++ You're trying to scare

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Subject: Re: Question about C++ This might bewilder you some more ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

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--- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about C++ On 30/05/2017 5:18 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > Nearly any "Hello, world" program fro

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This might bewilder you some more because C++ is a tricky language for a beginner. It''s a simple thin wrapper class around C stdio that provides RAII and some return value checks that throw exception when errors occur. If you can work this out you're well on your way to being competent. It's

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DU] On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Question about C++ Does anyone have a complete piece of C++ code that runs under MVS or Linux that I can study? 99% of the stuff I write is HLASM and to a

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http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-c++-109.html On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Steve Beaver wrote: > Does anyone have a complete piece of C++ code that runs under MVS or Linux > that I can study? 99% of the stuff I write is HLASM and to a point I find > C++

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nted habits that way. Many people I fear claim they are writing C++ but in reality are writing what I call "C with // comments." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Monday, May 29,

Question about C++

Does anyone have a complete piece of C++ code that runs under MVS or Linux that I can study? 99% of the stuff I write is HLASM and to a point I find C++ bewildering. TIA Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive