Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Check out MFNETDISK. www.mfnetdisk.com Shai Hess (the developer) lives in Israel. Features: MFNetDisk supports disks and tapes emulation and real 3390 disk replication and one second snapshot 3390 disks backup and restore. MFNETDISK introduces two modes – Replication and emulation for

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-11 Thread גדי בן אבי
While being a good idea, MFNETDISK is nowhere ready for production work. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Choosing

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-11 Thread Mike Schwab
] On Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Choosing a tape library Check out MFNETDISK. www.mfnetdisk.com Shai Hess (the developer) lives in Israel. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-11 Thread Shai S
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Choosing a tape library Check out MFNETDISK. www.mfnetdisk.com Shai Hess (the developer) lives in Israel

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-11 Thread Ed Finnell
Shhh, Marissa Meyer is liable to buy them. In a message dated 6/11/2013 5:16:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, wayn...@gmail.com writes: They are a very cluey IBM development shop. Shame there was so little additional take-up of the product.

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-11 Thread Shai S
Shhh, Marissa Meyer is liable to buy them. Let me tell you that no Yahoo, Google or Facebook nor any other big companies will invest one Dollar or more in new product which will run in MF Z/OS. So, the same for MFNetDisk. It is waste of time to develop medicine to already ( or almost ) dead Z/OS.

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-10 Thread Hervey Martinez
Gadi, We are about to start testing a Luminex VTS and, from everything that we've read, it appears to be an excellent solution. Regards, Hervey -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Sunday, June 09,

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-10 Thread גדי בן אבי
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Hervey Martinez Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Choosing a tape library Gadi, We are about to start testing a Luminex VTS and, from everything that we've read, it appears to be an excellent solution. Regards, Hervey

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-10 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-06-10 13:29, גדי בן אבי pisze: Thanks, But from what I see, they do not have a reseller in Israel. I also doubt that our DR site, which is run by IBM, will let us use this. Our main use for tapes, is to transfer data to the DR site. I'd suggest 4 3590's connected to A60.

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-10 Thread גדי בן אבי
Of R.S. Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Choosing a tape library W dniu 2013-06-10 13:29, גדי בן אבי pisze: Thanks, But from what I see, they do not have a reseller in Israel. I also doubt that our DR site, which is run by IBM, will let us use

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-10 Thread Richard Marchant
solution. Richard Johannesburg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Hervey Martinez Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Choosing a tape library Gadi, We are about to start testing

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-10 Thread Mike Schwab
LTOs are pretty high capacity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Tape-Open On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:52 AM, גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com wrote: Our goals are: Make backups run fast so we can back more data in a limited backup window. Transfer the tapes to our DR site. They definitely have

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-10 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-06-10 14:03, Mike Schwab pisze: LTOs are pretty high capacity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Tape-Open Oh, yes, but there are no FICON-attached versions. So, no z/OS system can use them (directly). Indirect use via some magic box like BusTech, Luminex or Interkom is another

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-10 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-06-10 13:52, גדי בן אבי pisze: Our goals are: Make backups run fast so we can back more data in a limited backup window. Transfer the tapes to our DR site. They definitely have 3592's. Encryption is not required. Then buy some second-hand J70 (with FICON cards) + FC switch +

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-10 Thread גדי בן אבי
Thanks, I will let the higher ups know. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Choosing a tape library W dniu 2013-06-10 13:52, גדי בן אבי

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-10 Thread Scott Fagen
גדי בן אבי said: Hi, I was asked to help choose a tape library for our system. -- snip -- As mentioned by another poster, for your use, a tapeless solution might prove most scalable. You can use a something other than shipping to get your data to D/R. See shameless-plug

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-09 Thread Lizette Koehler
Some questions to consider 1) How much data is currently on tape? 2) Do you encrypt your tape that goes off site? 3) How often do you add new tape to your current environment? 4) How much tape do you create on a daily basis? 5) What are your growth trends in tape? Forecast what your

Re: Choosing a tape library

2013-06-09 Thread Lizette Koehler
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 6:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Choosing a tape library Some questions to consider 1) How much data is currently on tape? 2) Do you encrypt your tape that goes off site? 3) How often do you add new