Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-18 Thread Gibney, Dave
ypass and selecting UA94607. (And 31 > >others that had dependencies satisfied :) ) > > > >Only running them in the sandboxes for now. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > >> Behalf Of Brian Westerman >

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-18 Thread Brian Westerman
e PTFs to aid detecting and migrating from USERCSA. > >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On >> Behalf Of Jousma, David >> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 12:00 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: Considerin

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-18 Thread Brian Westerman
You run into it when (for instance), VPSIP gets the 16e abend but won't come down. Unfortunately, we found it the 'hard" way by cancelling VPSIP only to have to IPL when IGC00020 went into a tight loop. It's still not completely fixed, but we know now not to let VPSIP get anywhere close to

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-18 Thread Brian Westerman
I completely agree, when I apply maintenance, I ALWAYS create an entirely new target and dlib zone, and I keep the old one for at least a year. Brian On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 14:23:56 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 19:00:04 +, Jousma, David wrote: > >>I suspect you won't

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-18 Thread Brian Westerman
nal Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On >> Behalf Of Brian Westerman >> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 9:22 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037 >> >> That's part of a pret

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-17 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Dave, yes you do need a newer level of MXG:- Change 36.188 Support for new Bit 4 of SMF30_RAXFLAGS and creation of BUILD005 these new bit-level variables with explanation in label BUIL3005 SMF30_RAXFLAG0='RAX0*USERKEY*COMMON*AUDIT*ENABLED?' VMAC30

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
019 12:00 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037 > > I'm getting confused by this thread. I thought I recalled you had said the > PTF > you were bypassing was for S16E? All of those DEB Check PTF's are in > support of the chang

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
ent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 12:24 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037 > > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 19:00:04 +, Jousma, David > wrote: > > >I suspect you won't have much luck backing these PTF's off because they >

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-17 Thread Allan Staller
Incidentally, we do have UA95897 applied for over a year now, and have not run into the scenario that OA58037 describes. Seems like a pretty small window of problem, and even then, it was on a task/job that was being cancelled to begin with. I'd probably open ticket with IBM on that APAR,

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 19:00:04 +, Jousma, David wrote: >I suspect you won't have much luck backing these PTF's off because they reach >out and touch a lot of different modules. The only real option would be if >you have a known complete backup of the entire SMPE environment *before* the

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-17 Thread Jousma, David
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Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 9:46 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037 > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 23:15:40 +, Gibney, Dave > wrote: > > >Well, I did do this. But, I am not sure it was worth it. The > ZOSMIGV2R

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-17 Thread Allan Staller
That is a LONG*** pe chain to restore/re-apply -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037 Well, I do run VPS/TCPIP

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
2019 9:22 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037 > > That's part of a pretty long comedy of errors that apply to (mostly) LRS's > VPSIP product. If you are running VPSIP, like several of our sites, then you > are likely aware

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-16 Thread Bruce Hewson
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 23:15:40 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >Well, I did do this. But, I am not sure it was worth it. The >ZOSMIGV2R3_NEXT_VSM_USERKEYCOMM check only tells me what I already knew. That >I have some address spaces using user key common. I had hoped it went further >and identified

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-16 Thread Brian Westerman
That's part of a pretty long comedy of errors that apply to (mostly) LRS's VPSIP product. If you are running VPSIP, like several of our sites, then you are likely aware of the issues that this whole string of aparas has caused.

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-16 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 17/09/2019 9:15 am, Gibney, Dave wrote: Yes, I do see the info on interpreting SMF30_UserKeyCsaUsage and SMF30_UserKeyCadsUsage. So, I guess my next step is to see if my MXG level has this support, or do I need to update (in part, or fully) MXG. Or, alternatively, is there some ICE tool

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-16 Thread Gibney, Dave
nframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Allan Staller > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:26 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037 > > I just this the same thing. The DEBCHK lock function is a pe-chain that seems > it has

Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037

2019-09-16 Thread Allan Staller
I just this the same thing. The DEBCHK lock function is a pe-chain that seems it has run on for about 18 months. I ended up bypassing 2 APARs that do not affect my installation. OA58037 is according to L2 support, a very specific set of conditions. IMO, it is OK to bypass an error hold, as long