Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:05 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: > John McKown wrote: > >​{drool} I'm gonna go see if I can afford a small one of those > >for my home.​ > > Dana Mitchell wrote: > >S812L is what you want. Its the smallest one. > > No, not the smallest. The IBM Power

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

John McKown wrote: >​{drool} I'm gonna go see if I can afford a small one of those >for my home.​ Dana Mitchell wrote: >S812L is what you want. Its the smallest one. No, not the smallest. The IBM Power System S821LC is half the physical size of the S812L (1U instead of 2U). The S821LC currently

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

> On Jan 24, 2018, at 10:32 AM, John McKown > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Dana Mitchell > wrote: > >> IBM already has very capable hardware available. They probably already >> have a nice z

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

Dana Mitchell wrote: >They probably already have a nice z emulator that runs on power hardware, >just not the software licensing in order to run z/OS on it. zPDT used to support Power, but appears not to any more—none of the literature admits it exists. As for it eating into z hardware

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

Re: use of FPGAs, Z Network Adapters (OSA) and Cryptographic adapters have been built from custom hardware and FPGAs for a while! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote: > S812L is what you want. Its the smallest one. > > https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/s812l-s822l/ ​thanks for the link.​ > > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 11:16:44 -0600, John McKown < >

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

S812L is what you want. Its the smallest one. https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/s812l-s822l/ On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 11:16:44 -0600, John McKown wrote: > >​{drool} I'm gonna go see if I can afford a small one of those for my home.​ >

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote: > Recently they came out with 'L' models such as 814L and 824L that run > Linux only. Same hardware, priced cheaper to compete with Linux on x86 > (sound familiar?) ​{drool} I'm gonna go see if I can afford a small

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

Recently they came out with 'L' models such as 814L and 824L that run Linux only. Same hardware, priced cheaper to compete with Linux on x86 (sound familiar?) On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 10:48:27 -0600, John McKown wrote: > >​I knew that the IBMi software runs on

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 10:32:50 -0600, John McKown < > john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >​I would almost bet that they won't however because it would probably eat > >into their true z hardware sales. > >

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 10:32:50 -0600, John McKown wrote: > >​I would almost bet that they won't however because it would probably eat >into their true z hardware sales. Exactly. >Especially if you make that machine an >IBMi capable one. Already is. We run 10 i

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote: > IBM already has very capable hardware available. They probably already > have a nice z emulator that runs on power hardware, just not the software > licensing in order to run z/OS on it. > ​Most likely, given that

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

IBM already has very capable hardware available. They probably already have a nice z emulator that runs on power hardware, just not the software licensing in order to run z/OS on it. An IBM Power8 S824 machine, 4u in height, 24 3.5gh cores, 2T memory, 7 PCIe card slots could run a

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601441/moores-law-is-dead-now-what/ Better link. On Wednesday, January 24, 2018, 9:06:30 AM EST, Mike Schwab wrote: With the Google, Amazon, and Microsoft/Bing search engines programming FPGAs with their algorythyms, aren't

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

The foundation of the computing industry’s innovation is faltering. What can replace it?  | | | | || | | | | | The foundation of the computing industry’s innovation is faltering. What can replace it? By Tom Simonite Shrinking transistors have powered 50 years of

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

Here is a good article describing the shrinkage problem. The foundation of the computing industry’s innovation is faltering. What can replace it? | | | | | | | | | | | The foundation of the computing industry’s innovation is faltering. What... Tom Simonite Shrinking transistors

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

With the Google, Amazon, and Microsoft/Bing search engines programming FPGAs with their algorythyms, aren't at that stage? I mean FPGAs are like a level below RISC instruction sets. https://www.forbes.com/sites/moorinsights/2017/08/28/microsoft-fpga-wins-versus-google-tpus-for-ai/#444247e39045

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I attended the opening session at IBM zUniversity approximately 5 years ago and one of IBM’s top engineers said it was RIP because the laws of physics. The shrinking of chips had reached its conclusion.  Bill Johnson Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, January 24, 2018, 8:19 AM,

Re: R.I.P - Moore's Law.

John McKown wrote: >Opinion article on Vulture Central about the end of an era for Moore's Law. >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/24/death_notice_for_moores_law/ H, I usually read those register articles with a pinch of salt, but it seemed they have something today ... Shift is now