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Prolly wandering somewhat off topic...
Lionel sez;
"but if you do it under an official change control process at least
you've documented wh
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Radoslaw Skorupka
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My humble opinion: NO. No way.
I have seen discussion about tracking library access, hopefully at member le
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Subject: Re: System Proclibs, Member management
My humble opinion: NO. No way.
I have seen discussion about tracking library access, hopefully at member level.
So what?
Let's imagine member ABC has not been touched for 5 months.
Can you delete it
My humble opinion: NO. No way.
I have seen discussion about tracking library access, hopefully at
member level.
So what?
Let's imagine member ABC has not been touched for 5 months.
Can you delete it?
No, you are not sure about half-year or once-a-year processes.
Of course, detailed report of
On 2022-04-13 12:36 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
How does that report such as ISRSUPC SRCHFOR which might access
every member of a PDS? If it can be limited to report only accesses by
the JCL reader it might overlook accesses by a file tailoring utility.
You can choose to track all references, or
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:22:31 -0400, Gord Tomlin wrote:
>On 2022-04-12 11:21 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
>> Say we have a proclib dataset with 1000 members in it. Does anyone have a
>> method to identify members that are being used so we can archive and delete
>> the ones that aren't?
>eventACTION
On 2022-04-12 11:21 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
Say we have a proclib dataset with 1000 members in it. Does anyone have a
method to identify members that are being used so we can archive and delete the
ones that aren't?
eventACTION has a Reference Tracker component that is
intended specifically
been a while since I've used the tool reports but if I'm not mistaken it
will tell you how the member was accessed and who, by a job, tsouser or
stc, but I could be wrong, I was wrong at least once
Carmen
On 4/12/2022 1:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 12:56:59 -0500, Carmen
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 12:56:59 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
>IRC you can add PDS LIBRARIES to PDSMAN's library access control not
>members :(
>
And any logging of member access is apt to be spoofed by:
o ISRSUPC SRCHFOR
o IEBPTPCH
o OPUTX, etc.
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gil
IRC you can add PDS LIBRARIES to PDSMAN's library access control not
members :(
On 4/12/2022 12:54 PM, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
IRC you can add PDS members to PDSMAN's library access control
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No clear tool that I know, maybe PDSMAN? IIRC you can add PDS members to
PDSMAN's library access control? and report on members accessed?
years ago at a former site we deleted obsolete members we ID'd by
scanning production JCL, fortunately all JCL for prod was librarian
managed in one
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:35:03 +, Mark Jacobs wrote:
>Those sub-types are for stow initialize, member delete, member add/replace,
>member delete. We're look for member read. Thanks anyway.
>
And that's tricky. Ultimately the member is accessed by a POINT. Is
any record generated for POINT?
Those sub-types are for stow initialize, member delete, member add/replace,
member delete. We're look for member read. Thanks anyway.
Mark Jacobs
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>> Maybe I wasn't clear. Say we have a proclib dataset with 1000 members in it.
>> Does anyone have a method to identify members that are being used so we can
>> archive and delete the ones that aren't?
Mark,
SMF-42 subtypes 20,21,24 and 25 ?
Maybe I wasn't clear. Say we have a proclib dataset with 1000 members in it.
Does anyone have a method to identify members that are being used so we can
archive and delete the ones that aren't?
Mark Jacobs
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:41:21 +, Mark Jacobs wrote:
>Does anyone do this in other than a manual method? Deletion of obsolete
>members and like things. If so, can you share your methods?
>Mark Jacobs
>
What does "manual" mean? Must this be done nondisruptively while the
library is in use?
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