Subject: Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL
One the best sysprogs I know attempted to free some storage SQA / CSA due to a
creeping storage condition. There was a shory pause followed by some
expletives and an immediate IPL of the system. I wouldn't attempt it on any
system I cared
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 21:16:42 -0800, Steve Beaver wrote:
>... the system will survive without your intervention,
s/will/may/
Shane ...
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It happens that certain CSA
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>Remember that CSA and ECSA can overflow to SQA and ESQA, so you have
>more air in you (E)CSA than the 2% and 3% and this might help you
>survive until the next scheduled IPL.
Actually, it's the other way around, as I think of it.
CSA can be converted into SQA. If a request to obtain storage
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Hello,
One of our Test LPAR was victim of S878
Hello,
One of our Test LPAR was victim of S878 abends caused by a DB2 system. Now
the DB2 system is down but still the ECSA and CSA are at 97% and 98%. Is it
possible to release the Unused Storage without IPLing ?
Regards,
Jake
Jake Anderson wrote:
>One of our Test LPAR was victim of S878 abends caused by a DB2 system.
You need to investigate the reasons/cause of those abends. Are the abends
inside DB2 itself or in a job using DB2?
> Now the DB2 system is down but still the ECSA and CSA are at 97% and 98%.
How big
Shane Ginnane wrote:
>Junior sysprog was using a well-known monitor that showed a bunch of "unused"
>shared storage. He decided we could use it, so decided to free it. ...
>... Still scratching our heads when afore-mentioned junior returned and wanted
>to know what all the kerfuffle was
: Friday, 30 October, 2015 06:29
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It is very difficult and tricky to determine which orphaned storage is left
orphaned unintentionally and can be releases.
Remember that CSA and ECSA can overflow to SQA and ESQA, so you have more air
in you (E)CSA than
Vernooij, CP wrote:
>>Did you 'freed' that junior to the pavement and reclaimed his office table?
>Of course not, how did you learn? We have a saying: by falling and getting up
>again, you learn.
You are right, anyways Shane said it was a development system.
As I have said in March 2013 -
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht <
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:
> Shane Ginnane wrote:
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> >Junior sysprog was using a well-known monitor that showed a bunch of
> "unused" shared storage. He decided we could use it, so decided to free it.
> ...
>
> >... Still
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:48:08 +0530, Jake Anderson wrote:
>Is it possible to release the Unused Storage without IPLing ?
Of course.
But you'd better be right.
Junior sysprog was using a well-known monitor that showed a bunch of "unused"
shared storage. He decided we could use it, so decided to
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Shane Ginnane wrote:
>Junior sysp
At 12:28 -0400 on 10/30/2015, Tony Harminc wrote about Re: Releasing
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On 30 October 2015 at 07:02, Elardus Engelbrecht
<elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:
As I have said in March 2013 - "We have a trophy just for such
disasters. The new owner kee
On 10/30/2015 4:18 AM, Jake Anderson wrote:
Hello,
One of our Test LPAR was victim of S878 abends caused by a DB2 system. Now
the DB2 system is down but still the ECSA and CSA are at 97% and 98%. Is it
possible to release the Unused Storage without IPLing ?
Regards,
Jake
Conley
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On 10/30/2015 4:18 AM, Jake Anderson wrote:
> Hello,
>
> One of our Test LPAR was victim of S878 abends caused by a DB2 system. Now
> the DB2 system is down but st
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht <
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:
> Shane
A little bit out of topic:
What do you prefer: an IPL or system crash?
It's serious question. It depends on business approach and of course
whether you have sysplex or no.
For me, it is usually better to schedule "sudden" IPL than have a crash.
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On 30 October 2015 at 07:02, Elardus Engelbrecht
wrote:
> As I have said in March 2013 - "We have a trophy just for such disasters. The
> new owner keeps it until another
> person makes an error..."
Well it seems to be war-story Friday. When I started as a junior
Anyone ever make GRS swappable using one of those third party
system monitors? I did! Had to IPL too.
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