Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated

2021-10-27 Thread Marna WALLE
Hi Bob, Yes, the z/OS V2.5 Upgrade Workflow is available in PTF(s) on z/OS V2.3 and V2.4, and in V2.5, and can be found in /usr/lpp/bcp/upgrade/. It is no longer in github. The latest level of the Workflow is found in APAR OA61406 - which is the level that contains all the links to the GA z/OS

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated

2021-10-27 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> What about datasets that are not in the CSI, e.g., CPAC.*? When you use a model to initialize the deployment configuration, data sets not managed by SMP/E, like the CPAC.* data sets, won't be initialized to your existing data set naming conventions. The same is true for new data sets that

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2021-10-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated > I too ordered V2.5 in the "window" where you still have a choice on > custompac dialogs or z/OSMF. I opted to go custompac one more time. > > I do echo Terri's sentiments that there should be

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2021-10-27 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> I too ordered V2.5 in the "window" where you still have a choice on > custompac dialogs or z/OSMF. I opted to go custompac one more time. > > I do echo Terri's sentiments that there should be a way to mostly > seed a new z/OSMF instance whether there is a utility that reads the > last saved

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2021-10-27 Thread Keith Gooding
Hi Kurt. In answer to your question about my previous post: We put the SMP/E target zone datasets on the target volume. The names in this case are SMPE.ZOS250.MVST250.* which are unique in the system. The CSI is VSAM so it is directly cataloged. The installation process indirectly catalogs the

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2021-10-27 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> Wanted to add a few other comments > Since IBM is forcing everyone to z/OSMF with 2.5, not excited for > this but It seems to work pretty well, except for everything that > cant see it doing behind the scenes. It seems this is a ton of > catalog look-ups to validate nothing exist. > > But

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2021-10-27 Thread Dave Jousma
Oh, and in the custompac dialogs, there are exactly 4 jobs that I run after resolving new datasets that came along with the new release. - allocate and catalog the datasets (ALLOCDS) - restore the datasets (RESTORE) - update SMPE DDDEFS (UP) - and a modified version of RECATALOG datasets to

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2021-10-27 Thread Dave Jousma
>Hey Dave > I ordered both, and you are right in 4 hours I had my z/OS loaded and IPLed > at least the initial IPL in test. However > >I wanted to try z/OSMF and I actually like the dataset naming flexibility, >much better than the dialogs and Alias's discovery. > >But all the background

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2021-10-27 Thread Shaffer, Terri
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. (CTR) Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated External Email Shields up! This old dog wants

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2021-10-27 Thread Shaffer, Terri
, 2021 1:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated External Email I too ordered V2.5 in the "window" where you still have a choice on custompac dialogs or z/OSMF. I opted to go custompac one more time. I do ec

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2021-10-27 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
and downloading z/OS 2.5. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Jousma Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated I too ordered V2.5 in the "w

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2021-10-27 Thread Dave Jousma
I too ordered V2.5 in the "window" where you still have a choice on custompac dialogs or z/OSMF. I opted to go custompac one more time. I do echo Terri's sentiments that there should be a way to mostly seed a new z/OSMF instance whether there is a utility that reads the last saved custompac

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated

2021-10-27 Thread Shaffer, Terri
Shaffer, Terri Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated External Email NVM, It how you select/filter the names that changes if you can modify or not.. Ms Terri E Shaffer Senior Systems En

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2021-10-27 Thread Shaffer, Terri
On Behalf Of Shaffer, Terri Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated External Email Wanted to add a few other comments Since IBM is forcing everyone to z/OSMF with 2.5, not excited

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2021-10-27 Thread Shaffer, Terri
LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated External Email Hi Kurt, There are lots of things I dislike about black boxes and not being able to take things on blind faith. In my 39 years as a system programmer that's gotten me into trouble exactly once

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2021-10-27 Thread Shaffer, Terri
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kurt J. Quackenbush Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 8:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated External Email > Actually now I was totally able to custom

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2021-10-27 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> I still have some gripes but these occurred also with the old dialogue: > - SMPE.ZOS250.* non-VSAM datasets on the sysres are indirectly > cataloged because indirect cataloging by the installation dialogue > works at the volume level. Can you expound on this comment a bit? Are you saying

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2021-10-27 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> Actually now I was totally able to customize all my dataset names, > which is really great. It is time consuming because I basically had > to change everything. Glad to hear you were able to customize the data set names to your liking. As already mentioned, next time I encourage you to use

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2021-10-26 Thread Shaffer, Terri
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Keith Gooding Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 3:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues Updated External Email Hi Terri. I had a more positive experience with z/osmf installation

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2021-10-26 Thread Keith Gooding
Hi Terri. I had a more positive experience with z/osmf installation of a z/os serverpac after some initial confusion. A long time ago I had created a ‘software instance’ from a pair of z/os 2.4 target/dlib zones. I used this as a model for my 2.5 installation and was very surprised when

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2021-10-26 Thread Shaffer, Terri
Okay I am going to retract the dataset names issue. Either my z/OSMF decided to play nice now, or I did something wrong. I can modify all the names to my preferred names and HLQ.. So let me continue to see what happens.. It sure would have been nice to just retrieve my CPAC.SAVE.CONFIG file.