Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-05 Thread Barry Merrill
ssion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 7:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Since it's Friday I'm not so "young" to remember that, however I vaguely remember I read some VSAM book (bought for many $$$). The b

Re: VSAM Release 2 (was Since it's Friday)

2017-12-05 Thread Steve Smith
I've occasionally wondered why LISTCAT has RELEASE-2 on every entity listing (1974 is "before my time"). It's amazing how release & version numbers deteriorate in various ways (Browser Identity strings are the worst (maybe - hideous examples abound)). I guess we can give up waiting fo

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-05 Thread R.S.
-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Since it's Friday I think CVOL / VSAM catalogs in MVS was version 1. ICF catalogs introduced during XA switchover period is version 2. On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:56 AM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2017-12-01 o 21:43, Pew, Curtis G pisze: This is just a curiosity que

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >"Why is VSAM like a cow in the middle of a meadow". >Answer: "They are both outstanding in their field". What a "moo-ving" joke... ;-) >16 April 1975: England's Malcolm Macdonald scores five against Cyprus >Funny how things stick in your memory. Ya, tell me. So

VSAM Release 2 (was Since it's Friday)

2017-12-05 Thread Mike Kerford-Byrnes
Going back a looong way, I worked on VSAM Release 1 (OS/VS1 Rel 2.6-ish) in 1974. It was not the happiest of times, with a significant number of errors and problems, especially when VSAM limits were tested. Eventually peace returned, and then VSAM Release 2 was announced.(I think late 1975 or ear

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-05 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
DF/EF, which preceded MVS/XA. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Mike Schwab > Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 4:29 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
it's Friday I think CVOL / VSAM catalogs in MVS was version 1. ICF catalogs introduced during XA switchover period is version 2. On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:56 AM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2017-12-01 o 21:43, Pew, Curtis G pisze: >> >> This is just a curiosity question, but I’ve

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Mike Schwab
I think CVOL / VSAM catalogs in MVS was version 1. ICF catalogs introduced during XA switchover period is version 2. On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:56 AM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2017-12-01 o 21:43, Pew, Curtis G pisze: >> >> This is just a curiosity question, but I’ve wondered about this. >> >> The JCL

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Sent: 04 December, 2017 16:26 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Since it's Friday > > W dniu 2017-12-04 o 16:01, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM pisze: > > IIRC, there was a significant change in LISTCAT output, indicated by > V2. > > > > Kees. >

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
; Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Since it's Friday But TCAM was replaced by VTAM Mike -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: 04 December 2017 15

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
: Since it's Friday exactly ! TCAM was used in the 70's as Charles sez - I recall the "everything must begin with V" era as being the 70's. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Mike Wawiorko" <014ab5cdfb21-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
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Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 16:26:13 +0100, R.S. wrote: > >I was told it's from "VSAM Version 2", which was introduced in late >70's. So, nowadays it's completely pointless, since no supported system >could report "Version 1" for decades. > But there might yet be code extant that checks for and requires Ve

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Carmen Vitullo
M-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 9:57:09 AM Subject: Re: Since it's Friday But TCAM was replaced by VTAM Mike -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: 04 December 2017 15:49

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Mike Wawiorko
But TCAM was replaced by VTAM Mike -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: 04 December 2017 15:49 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Since it's Friday This mail originated from outsid

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Carmen Vitullo
humm, how about TCAM :) Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Charles Mills" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 9:43:05 AM Subject: Re: Since it's Friday I recall the "everything must begin with V" era as being the 70'

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Carmen Vitullo
RV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 9:33:22 AM Subject: Re: Since it's Friday 70's? I can remember IBM proudly introducing VSAM early 80's. Or I must be mistaken, but there must be others with accurate memories. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainfr

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Charles Mills
EDU Subject: Re: Since it's Friday 70's? I can remember IBM proudly introducing VSAM early 80's. Or I must be mistaken, but there must be others with accurate memories. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
4 December, 2017 16:26 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Since it's Friday > > W dniu 2017-12-04 o 16:01, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM pisze: > > IIRC, there was a significant change in LISTCAT output, indicated by > V2. > > > > Kees. > I was tol

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-12-04 o 16:01, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM pisze: IIRC, there was a significant change in LISTCAT output, indicated by V2. Kees. I was told it's from "VSAM Version 2", which was introduced in late 70's. So, nowadays it's completely pointless, since no supported system could repor

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
IIRC, there was a significant change in LISTCAT output, indicated by V2. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: 04 December, 2017 15:57 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re:

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-12-01 o 21:43, Pew, Curtis G pisze: This is just a curiosity question, but I’ve wondered about this. The JCL reference says: All temporary data set names begin as follows: SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RA000.jjobname Does anyone know the story behind the ‘RA000’ part? It seems unnecessary and

Re: Since it's Friday

2017-12-01 Thread Tony Harminc
On 1 December 2017 at 15:43, Pew, Curtis G wrote: > This is just a curiosity question, but I’ve wondered about this. > > The JCL reference says: > > All temporary data set names begin as follows: > SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RA000.jjobname > > Does anyone know the story behind the ‘RA000’ part? It seems un

Since it's Friday

2017-12-01 Thread Pew, Curtis G
This is just a curiosity question, but I’ve wondered about this. The JCL reference says: All temporary data set names begin as follows: SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RA000.jjobname Does anyone know the story behind the ‘RA000’ part? It seems unnecessary and arbitrary. -- Pew, Curtis G curtis@austin.ut