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I'm not so "young" to remember that, however I vaguely remember I read some
VSAM book (bought for many $$$). The b
I've occasionally wondered why LISTCAT has RELEASE-2 on
every entity listing (1974 is "before my time"). It's amazing how
release & version numbers deteriorate in various ways (Browser
Identity strings are the worst (maybe - hideous examples abound)).
I guess we can give up waiting fo
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Subject: Re: Since it's Friday
I think CVOL / VSAM catalogs in MVS was version 1. ICF catalogs
introduced during XA switchover period is version 2.
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:56 AM, R.S.
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W dniu 2017-12-01 o 21:43, Pew, Curtis G pisze:
This is just a curiosity que
Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
>"Why is VSAM like a cow in the middle of a meadow".
>Answer: "They are both outstanding in their field".
What a "moo-ving" joke... ;-)
>16 April 1975: England's Malcolm Macdonald scores five against Cyprus
>Funny how things stick in your memory.
Ya, tell me. So
Going back a looong way, I worked on VSAM Release 1 (OS/VS1 Rel 2.6-ish) in
1974. It was not the happiest of times, with a significant number of errors
and problems, especially when VSAM limits were tested. Eventually peace
returned, and then VSAM Release 2 was announced.(I think late 1975 or ear
DF/EF, which preceded MVS/XA.
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it's Friday
I think CVOL / VSAM catalogs in MVS was version 1. ICF catalogs
introduced during XA switchover period is version 2.
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:56 AM, R.S. wrote:
> W dniu 2017-12-01 o 21:43, Pew, Curtis G pisze:
>>
>> This is just a curiosity question, but I’ve
I think CVOL / VSAM catalogs in MVS was version 1. ICF catalogs
introduced during XA switchover period is version 2.
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:56 AM, R.S. wrote:
> W dniu 2017-12-01 o 21:43, Pew, Curtis G pisze:
>>
>> This is just a curiosity question, but I’ve wondered about this.
>>
>> The JCL
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> W dniu 2017-12-04 o 16:01, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM pisze:
> > IIRC, there was a significant change in LISTCAT output, indicated by
> V2.
> >
> > Kees.
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But TCAM was replaced by VTAM
Mike
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: Since it's Friday
exactly ! TCAM was used in the 70's
as Charles sez -
I recall the "everything must begin with V" era as being the 70's.
Carmen Vitullo
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 16:26:13 +0100, R.S. wrote:
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>I was told it's from "VSAM Version 2", which was introduced in late
>70's. So, nowadays it's completely pointless, since no supported system
>could report "Version 1" for decades.
>
But there might yet be code extant that checks for and requires
Ve
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But TCAM was replaced by VTAM
Mike
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But TCAM was replaced by VTAM
Mike
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humm, how about TCAM :)
Carmen Vitullo
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I recall the "everything must begin with V" era as being the 70'
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70's? I can remember IBM proudly introducing VSAM early 80's. Or I must be
mistaken, but there must be others with accurate memories.
Kees.
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70's? I can remember IBM proudly introducing VSAM early 80's. Or I must be
mistaken, but there must be others with accurate memories.
Kees.
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> W dniu 2017-12-04 o 16:01, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM pisze:
> > IIRC, there was a significant change in LISTCAT output, indicated by
> V2.
> >
> > Kees.
> I was tol
W dniu 2017-12-04 o 16:01, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM pisze:
IIRC, there was a significant change in LISTCAT output, indicated by V2.
Kees.
I was told it's from "VSAM Version 2", which was introduced in late
70's. So, nowadays it's completely pointless, since no supported system
could repor
IIRC, there was a significant change in LISTCAT output, indicated by V2.
Kees.
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W dniu 2017-12-01 o 21:43, Pew, Curtis G pisze:
This is just a curiosity question, but I’ve wondered about this.
The JCL reference says:
All temporary data set names begin as follows: SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RA000.jjobname
Does anyone know the story behind the ‘RA000’ part? It seems unnecessary and
On 1 December 2017 at 15:43, Pew, Curtis G
wrote:
> This is just a curiosity question, but I’ve wondered about this.
>
> The JCL reference says:
>
> All temporary data set names begin as follows:
> SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RA000.jjobname
>
> Does anyone know the story behind the ‘RA000’ part? It seems un
This is just a curiosity question, but I’ve wondered about this.
The JCL reference says:
All temporary data set names begin as follows: SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RA000.jjobname
Does anyone know the story behind the ‘RA000’ part? It seems unnecessary and
arbitrary.
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