Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In !!AAAYAJXIDufoOyhGhgKtFLrs5tbCgAAAEPhMJU7s0I1Eqi6+v2BozC4BAA==@optonline.net, on 02/01/2014 at 11:36 PM, MichealButz michealb...@optonline.net said: 000910 58F0 021C0021C 972 L R15,X'21C' That's PSATOLD; when TESTAUTH is in control

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-03 Thread Chuck Arney
Of Jon Perryman Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 5:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TSO test confusion ? I am talking as an ISV. I never thought about freelancer but it sounds like they would find it useful too. I agree with you about abuse which is why I said it should

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-02 Thread Micheal Butz
Dave Thanks I know you once explains to Me how to find the debugged PSATOLD Maybe XDC should have a LISTTCB Command to display the debugged TCB Thanks Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2014, at 8:27 AM, David Cole dbc...@colesoft.com wrote: FWIW Joe, z/XDC runs in the same task that is

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-02 Thread Jon Perryman
Great product whose only drawback is when you go somewhere that doesn't have it. Oh so frustrating. That's a WAD if there ever is one. You'll be amazed at the amount of time you save by avoiding using dumps and TSO TEST/TESTAUTH.  Jon Perryman. From: David

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-02 Thread Jon Perryman
Daves point was LISTTCB is not necessary in z/XDC. It's been a while but if I remember correctly, it shows the TCB's and has an identifier on the active TCB. TSO TEST / TESTAUTH needs the LISTTCB to get around this problem. Jon Perryman. From: Micheal Butz

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-02 Thread Dave Cole
WAD? Great product whose only drawback is when you go somewhere that doesn't have it. Oh so frustrating. That sounds like a sales opportunity to me... Wanna tell me more? dbc...@colesoft.com At 2/2/2014 09:08 AM, Jon Perryman wrote: Great product whose only drawback is when you go

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-02 Thread David Cole
Hi Joe, In z/XDC, the debugging TCB and the debugging PSATOLD are the same as the program's. There is no distinction. Also, in z/XDC the LIST TCBS command shows all of the aspace's TCBs in an indented display matching the subtasking structure, with the current TCB plainly marked. Example:

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-02 Thread David Cole
WAD? Great product whose only drawback is when you go somewhere that doesn't have it. Oh so frustrating. That sounds like a sales opportunity to me... Wanna tell me more? dbc...@colesoft.com At 2/2/2014 09:08 AM, Jon Perryman wrote: Great product whose only drawback is when you go

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-02 Thread Jon Perryman
Sorry, just trying to be funny. I can't ask my customers to install it just for me for a one off use. Works As Designed. Personally, I find it worth the money. Having to create a SLIP (sometimes complicated) and analyzing the dump takes time. Not very dynamic because I can't decide depending on

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-02 Thread David Cole
Sorry, didn't realize you were a freelancer. We have considered and even played with personal licenses in the past. But z/XDC, when authorized, can pretty easily be misused. We would have to require host sites to sign off on all kinds of liability disclaimers. Glad you like XDC. Wish we

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-02 Thread Jon Perryman
I am talking as an ISV. I never thought about freelancer but it sounds like they would find it useful too. I agree with you about abuse which is why I said it should be restricted and only available for the ISV use. We would have the same liability issues and we couldn't include it with the

TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread MichealButz
Hi, I get the following results under TESTAUTH which I don't understand 000910 58F0 021C0021C 972 L R15,X'21C' 000914 973 TCBLOOP DS0H

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread Jon Perryman
This was recently discussed. PSATOLD is for the active TCB. The program has a TCB that is paused at TEST breakpoints. The active TCB is a different TCB because TESTAUTH is now active so you can issue TESTAUTH commands. Jon Perryman. From: MichealButz

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread Micheal Butz
The correct value is what in R15 this matches the TCB displayed by LISTTCB Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: This was recently discussed. PSATOLD is for the active TCB. The program has a TCB that is paused at TEST breakpoints. The

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread Jon Perryman
I'm not sure what you are asking or what you are saying is incorrect. LISTCB will display the TCB for the program you are testing which is what you see in R15. Obviously it should not be the TCB where LISTTCB is running which is PSATOLD.  Jon Perryman.

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread Micheal Butz
I understand thanks Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2014, at 1:15 AM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: I'm not sure what you are asking or what you are saying is incorrect. LISTCB will display the TCB for the program you are testing which is what you see in R15. Obviously it should