Re: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system?

2014-11-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote: This is just a curiosity question. How many lines of SYSLOG output do you produce in an average day? I just did a quick look at last week's SYSLOG and saw about 1.5 million lines for a 7 day period on two, rather small, systems. 47.5 million lines over 7 days on about dozen

Re: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system?

2014-11-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: We actively use MPF list/exits to trim messages, both from the operator console and from syslog/operlog, deleting those messages that we really don't need. We use MPF and automation [1] to trim many messages on Console and some on SYSLOG (which I really

Re: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system?

2014-11-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:34:27 -0600, John McKown wrote: How many lines of SYSLOG output do you produce in an average day? From 23:00 yesterday to 16:49 today, only 340 K lines. We are a rather small shop, so our numbers aren't that interesting. However, 35 years ago, when I was an Amdahl SE,

curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system?

2014-11-24 Thread John McKown
This is just a curiosity question. How many lines of SYSLOG output do you produce in an average day? I just did a quick look at last week's SYSLOG and saw about 1.5 million lines for a 7 day period on two, rather small, systems. Why am I curious? From a previous thread on doing a tail -f on the

Re: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system?

2014-11-24 Thread Jousma, David
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system? This is just a curiosity question. How many lines

Re: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system?

2014-11-24 Thread Greg Shirey
AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system? This is just a curiosity question. How many lines of SYSLOG output do you produce in an average day? I just did a quick look at last week's SYSLOG and saw about 1.5 million lines for a 7 day

Re: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system?

2014-11-24 Thread Graham Harris
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system? This is just a curiosity question. How many lines of SYSLOG output do you produce in an average

Re: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system?

2014-11-24 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Graham Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote: 25million ​Ouch. Which leads to another question: How is this information used? At that density I simply don't see a way for a unaugmented human to do much of anything with it.​ ​I would hope that most of that is

Re: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system?

2014-11-24 Thread Graham Harris
​I would hope that most of that is basically irrelevant status type messages (job started / ended type stuff).​ So would I!! :) I would imagine most information in 'the log' is largely irrelevant from a day-to-day point of view, until such time as you need to find out 'what happened' in

Re: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system?

2014-11-24 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Gould Sent: 25 November, 2014 2:47 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: curious: message rate to z/OS SYSLOG/OPERLOG on a _large_ system? Wow!! I am impressed we used to get 25K (25000) messages a day and while it has gone up since (the old days) we still suppress many many messages