FORCE any userid(s) that won't go away gently.
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Paul Gilmartin
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Subject: (External):Re: how to force a free of ispf allocated Dataset
On Mon, 7 Oct
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 08:55:55 -0500, Jeffrey Holst wrote:
>I seem to recall that there is a program on CBTTAPE that can call IDCAMS or
>IEHPROGM but intercepts the and ignores the ENQ on the dataset to be renamed
>(or deleted). There is a certain danger to it, so it performs a security check
>to
I seem to recall that there is a program on CBTTAPE that can call IDCAMS or
IEHPROGM but intercepts the and ignores the ENQ on the dataset to be renamed
(or deleted). There is a certain danger to it, so it performs a security check
to try to restrict it use to only those who are authorized. I ha
On 10/6/2019 2:25 PM, David Spiegel wrote:
Hi Ed,
I don't think that the FILE Parameter is necessary.
Just tried it and, of course, you are correct. Works either way -- with
or without...
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Hi Ed,
I don't think that the FILE Parameter is necessary.
Regards,
David
On 2019-10-06 16:47, Ed Jaffe wrote:
> On 10/5/2019 1:29 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:
>> I am trying to rename a CLIST library allocated to users for ISPF.
>> how do I force users to deallocate the dataset so I can rename it?
Haha! I meant to write Whack-a-Mole!
On 10/6/2019 1:47 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 10/5/2019 1:29 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:
I am trying to rename a CLIST library allocated to users for ISPF.
how do I force users to deallocate the dataset so I can rename it? I
have been sending tso messages but more
On 10/5/2019 1:29 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:
I am trying to rename a CLIST library allocated to users for ISPF. how do I
force users to deallocate the dataset so I can rename it? I have been sending
tso messages but more users keep allocating it.
In a busy environment, you will never be able t
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Bill Giannelli
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Subject: how to force a free of ispf allocated Dataset
I am trying to rename a CLIST library allocated to users for ISPF
On Saturday, October 5, 2019, 09:37:54 AM PDT, Jesse 1 Robinson
wrote:
> If you have a handful of users you can't cancel, use FORCE U=. It's
> messy, but the pain will (most likely) be short lived.
Use FORCE with great caution and realize that you could damage something or
require a
On Saturday, October 5, 2019, 01:44:14 AM PDT, ITschak Mugzach
wrote:
>You can't. Instead of rename, allocate a new one, copy into the current one
> and update the tso proc with the new name. A they later you'll be able to
> delete the old one.
If this is a non-sms dataset, then you can un
On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 16:37:43 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
>Depending on the size or your shop and the number of TSO users, you could
>cause a FUBAR by renaming any shared ISPF data set. Those get allocated not
>only through logon PROCs but also through any number of CLIST/REXX over which
>you
ehler
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 8:59 AM
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Subject: (External):Re: how to force a free of ispf allocated Dataset
So using your normal change control process, the following steps can be taken
1) Issue D GRS,RES=(*,data-set-name-here)
See who has it alloc
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> I have one tso session running but the user is not "online&
I have one tso session running but the user is not "online". I tried cancelling
it but the session isnt going away.
Bill
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you beat me to send :)
Joe
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 3:44 AM ITschak Mugzach wrote:
> You can't. Instead of rename, allocate a new one, copy into the current one
> and update the tso proc with the new name. A they later you'll be able to
> delete the old one.
>
> בתאריך שבת, 5 באוק׳ 2019, 11:39, מ
You can't. Instead of rename, allocate a new one, copy into the current one
and update the tso proc with the new name. A they later you'll be able to
delete the old one.
בתאריך שבת, 5 באוק׳ 2019, 11:39, מאת Bill Giannelli <
billgianne...@gmail.com>:
> I am trying to rename a CLIST library alloca
I am trying to rename a CLIST library allocated to users for ISPF. how do I
force users to deallocate the dataset so I can rename it? I have been sending
tso messages but more users keep allocating it.
thanks
Bill
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