Re: zLinux (was are banks breaking up with mainframes)

2023-05-23 Thread Martin Trübner
>> who cannot separate z/OS the operating system from Z hardware. Let alone people who believe that z/OS is the only op-sys running on z hardware. Just for the record: there is an actual version of z/VSE - z/VM - z/TPF Martin

Re: zLinux (was are banks breaking up with mainframes)

2023-05-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 23 May 2023 08:59:58 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >... >USS is bi-modal as are the C/C++ compilers. I run everything in USS in >ASCII mode. All of Rocket and IBMs z/OS UNIX ports are in ASCII. > Is there an ASCII shell (perhaps Rocket bash?) in which I can readily, from desktop ssh:

Re: zLinux (was are banks breaking up with mainframes)

2023-05-22 Thread David Crayford
On 22/5/2023 11:22 pm, Rick Troth wrote: Rex is right. Linux (Z or otherwise) is a different operating system. And it's "full ASCII". USS, also known as OMVS, has been an integral part of MVS (now known as z/OS) since the mid 1990s. IBM has put more and more function into USS, even moving

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zLinux (was are banks breaking up with mainframes)

2023-05-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Pommier, Rex [rpomm...@sfgmembers.com] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 11:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zLinux (was are banks breaking up with mainframes) Hi Rick, Thanks for the confir

Re: zLinux (was are banks breaking up with mainframes)

2023-05-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
as are banks breaking up with mainframes) Rex is right. Linux (Z or otherwise) is a different operating system. And it's "full ASCII". USS, also known as OMVS, has been an integral part of MVS (now known as z/OS) since the mid 1990s. IBM has put more and more function into USS, e

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zLinux (was are banks breaking up with mainframes)

2023-05-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Troth Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: zLinux (was are banks breaking up with mainframes) Rex is right. Linux (Z or otherwise) is a different operating system. And it's "full ASCII". USS

Re: zLinux (was are banks breaking up with mainframes)

2023-05-22 Thread Rick Troth
Rex is right. Linux (Z or otherwise) is a different operating system. And it's "full ASCII". USS, also known as OMVS, has been an integral part of MVS (now known as z/OS) since the mid 1990s. IBM has put more and more function into USS, even moving things from the "traditional" side. USS is

zLinux (was are banks breaking up with mainframes)

2023-05-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Bob, Linux on Z and OMVS are 2 completely different animals. OMVS is an integral part of z/OS (try running TCP/IP without it for example). zLinux is a completely separate operating system, running in an LPAR or on top of VM just like another OS image. Another difference is that OMVS (as