Re: VLF caching

2014-12-01 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Peter, Yes, some confusion was caused by terminology: I regard VLF as the manager of the cache and the exploiters as doing 'caching', meaning giving an object to VLF to put it in its cache. Finally, the first and basic question of this thread was: -can I use VLF trimming statistics as a good

Re: Copying sequential files - BSAM and QSAM

2014-12-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
You should up your buffers (and NCP). Two will be spending a lot of time waiting. Just remember that after a CHECK shows EOF, you should not expect a valid status from the pending reads. On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 12:20:08 -0500 Sam Golob sbgo...@cbttape.org wrote: :Hi Folks, : : I was just

zNALC Reporting Requirements

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Jacobs
We've been approved for zOS zNALC licensing on some of our lpars, and I was asked to research the reporting requirements. Are there any requirements other than identifying these lpars as zNALC, and continue to report usage on the SCRT report? -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL

Re: zNALC Reporting Requirements

2014-12-01 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Mark, I would send an email to Al Sherkow and ask him. a...@sherkow.com Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 8:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: zNALC Reporting

Re: Death of spinning disk?

2014-12-01 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 2:14 AM [ snip ] - smoke/vapor-based recording; I use the word recording here quite consciously. These recording systems could not be played back when they were

Re: Death of spinning disk?

2014-12-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Chase, John wrote: Might have been fun to hear Chopin and Liszt play Dueling Pianos :-) Could be serious 'fun', hmmm! ;-) Serious music were played by musicians on toy pianos, see last paragraphs in this URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_piano Though originally made as a child's

Hillgang reminder

2014-12-01 Thread Neale Ferguson
The next meeting is this Wednesday. The agenda and sign up instructions may be found at: http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/HILL1214.PDF We have a good number signed up already but still have space for more. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

RES: SYSNAME command in SDSF and IOF

2014-12-01 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Mr. Kaptein, SDSF uses RMF to obtain information and display it in DA panel. As far as I remember, there is a way to obtain this info from your IOF Lpars, by loading in LPA some SDSF modules. There is an explanation in IBM-MAIN archives, I think from Mr. Mark Zelden, that I've tested and it

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
I installed a feature pack for CICS. It came as a separate FMID. We are having trouble making it work, so I wanted to make sure that we had the latest maintenance for it. That tells me why you want to install (APPLY) PTFs for a single FMID. It does not answer my question of why you feel it

Re: SMP/E and IDR (was: Binder SETSSI ...?)

2014-12-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8902901628988927.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 11/30/2014 at 11:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: Can this information be supplied from HLASM Yes. (but this would be harder for us to automate.) Why can't you pass the necessary

Re: SMP/E and IDR (was: Binder SETSSI ...?)

2014-12-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAE1XxDHQB8Mn99LQZcydqGc5QHGPR5HJC-bNPmv0H==um7c...@mail.gmail.com, on 11/30/2014 at 01:19 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said: AINSERT is then used to 'save' them, and AREAD is used to put them into the output. That's not even wrong! He needs a PUNCH or REPRO to get them into the

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
I was working on a specific product and *ONLY* wanted maintenance for that. Time and again I had to figure out all the pertaining PTF's and do a select(,,,,eee, etc etc) I did NOT want maintenance for other products to be recieved and applied. (I know I'm going to kick my

Re: How to clear console backlog.

2014-12-01 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Thank's BabyEklavaya.. On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, baby eklavya baby.ekla...@gmail.com wrote: Issue K Q,L=consolename to clear the backlog To see the backlog information , issue D C,B and look out for NBUF value in the output On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Lizette Koehler

Re: zNALC Reporting Requirements

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Schwab
If you have any mobile device transactions, you can work with your IBM account representative to get a discount for these transactions. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com wrote: We've been approved for zOS zNALC licensing on some of our lpars, and I was asked

Re: SMP/E and IDR (was: Binder SETSSI ...?)

2014-12-01 Thread John Gilmore
Shmuel was, of course, entirely correct in saying that a PUNCH or REPRO statement is necessary to get them into the output; but this surpassingly obvious observation is not very interesting. The AINSERTs and AREADs are needed to sequence IDENTIFY binder control statements properly: They must

Re: Why is the System Data Sets book no longer deemed useful?

2014-12-01 Thread John Eells
First, I can't resist saying that as it seems to have taken a full decade for members of this group to perceive a significant lack, it seems the decision to drop the book was a good one! That aside, the vast majority of customers install z/OS using ServerPac. ServerPac, in turn, provides far

Re: SMP/E and IDR (was: Binder SETSSI ...?)

2014-12-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:32:45 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: at 11:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: Can this information be supplied from HLASM Yes. Can it be more straightforward than JWG's suggestion? (but this would be harder for us to automate.) Why can't you pass the necessary

Re: Binder SYSPRINT wrap?

2014-12-01 Thread Pommier, Rex
Or possibly when the precursor to the binder was developed that long ago, whoever wrote this section figured with a 44 character DSN being the longest available, they padded it with 20 bytes to make sure it was plenty long. Then when Unix-style path names came along later, whoever added the

Re: Why is the System Data Sets book no longer deemed useful?

2014-12-01 Thread Linda
Hi John, I have seen and used the ServerPac resources you mentioned and found them very helpful and useful. What about the majority who do not have access to ServerPac? With role based security these days, many, perhaps most, do not have access. Thanks, Linda Sent from my iPhone On Dec

Re: zNALC Reporting Requirements

2014-12-01 Thread Al Sherkow
Thanks Bob. Mark: You need to mark the LPAR, which most sites now do with IEASYSXX, LICENSE=zNALC. SCRT will take care of the rest. You still need to audit SCRT and the resultant invoices you receive from IBM. You also need to apply for zNALC annually, which entails updating your original

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: Kurt: We wanted to bring RACF to the latest level without the other acruttumonts(sp?) so w just wanted to receive maintenance for RACF. We had an issue and level 2 want ptf X on and x was in the the group of PTFS that we wanted to

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Ed Gould
Kurt: We didn't have the DASD space at the time (we needed a few extra volumes for maintenance and they were being used by another application). We were in a DASD constrained environment. Ed On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: I was working on a specific product and

Re: Why is the System Data Sets book no longer deemed useful?

2014-12-01 Thread John Eells
Once the data sets have all been allocated for the first time, for most things you can model after one that exists and tweak as needed. But for formal documentation, people without READ access to the ServerPac data sets *should* be able to find allocation information for individual data sets

Re: Death of spinning disk?

2014-12-01 Thread Ed Finnell
Miles Davis biographer and producer said while they were outlining Man with a Horn(album) Miles had his kids piano and was banging out ideas, but only about half the keys worked. He could hear them in his vision, but for mere mortals it was difficult to comprehend. In a message dated

Re: List mail being marked as spam

2014-12-01 Thread Tony Harminc
On 30 November 2014 at 20:33, Graham Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote: I setup a filter in gmail to send all IBM-MAIN stuff to its own folder (or label?), and my experience is that nothing (IBM-MAIN-wise) then gets sent to spam - the filter overrides it. Unfortunately it doesn't override the

Re: List mail being marked as spam

2014-12-01 Thread John Gilmore
Gmail could, in the sense that it is within Google's technical capacity, deal with this problem. It has instead elected to discover that characteristic, long-standing LISTSERV behavior is a species of 'phishing'. This position has no technical merit. It is, I suppose, convenient; but it opens

XMIT-Manager is now installable on 64-bit Windows

2014-12-01 Thread Sam Golob
Hi Folks, For those of you who wish to install XMIT-Manager (originally from Neal Johnston-Ward) on 64-bit Windows systems, there is a version of it which was modified by Robert A.H. Prins to install there. I had placed this version on File 916 of the CBT Tape, but it needs a

Re: Why is the System Data Sets book no longer deemed useful?

2014-12-01 Thread Linda
Hi John, It is management that approves access - or not! And if IBM packs documentation that appears to be only for the installer, that is who it is for, paraphrasing here. sigh. Just the way it is. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:03 PM, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com wrote:

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:49:37 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: We didn't have the DASD space at the time (we needed a few extra volumes for maintenance and they were being used by another application). We were in a DASD constrained environment. Is there a further performance concern in that if the user

Re: XMIT-Manager is now installable on 64-bit Windows

2014-12-01 Thread Tom Brennan
Thanks Sam. It works fine on my 64-bit Windows 8 laptop. Sam Golob wrote: Hi Folks, For those of you who wish to install XMIT-Manager (originally from Neal Johnston-Ward) on 64-bit Windows systems, there is a version of it which was modified by Robert A.H. Prins to install there.

Re: SMP/E and IDR (was: Binder SETSSI ...?)

2014-12-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAE1XxDG4NRGnr2hk-=cdsgdxqs1nuv7ucbru4ntyy_ebkmx...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/01/2014 at 11:18 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said: surpassingly obvious It should have been obvious *before* you incorrrecvtly described the roles in AINSERT and AREAD. The AINSERTs and AREADs are needed to

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Tim Henness
The problem I had with it was that there doesn't seem to be any way to order maintenance for an FMID (or product) until *after* it has been applied. I would have much preferred to have applied all maintenance along with the FMID, particularly since there were ++IFREQs against the FMID that

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 00:04:50 -0500, Tim Henness wrote: The problem I had with it was that there doesn't seem to be any way to order maintenance for an FMID (or product) until *after* it has been applied. I would have much preferred to have applied all maintenance along with the FMID, particularly

Re: SyzMAIL/z new features

2014-12-01 Thread Brian Westerman
That's my point, SyzSPOOL/z already does just that, and to add the capability to SyzMPF/z would place it in competition with our own product. Besides, getting the STEP and MAX condition codes with the runtime details is useful, but to send the entire job just because we can seems to be

Re: SMP/E and IDR (was: Binder SETSSI ...?)

2014-12-01 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:18 -0500 on 12/01/2014, John Gilmore wrote about Re: SMP/E and IDR (was: Binder SETSSI ...?): Shmuel was, of course, entirely correct in saying that a PUNCH or REPRO statement is necessary to get them into the output; but this surpassingly obvious observation is not very interesting.