Re: FW: Archive Questions

If you just clipped the VOLSER then whatever was there wasn't touched. You need ICKDSF INIT Probably wouldn't hurt to do a ===>ds qd,2338,8,validate   In a message dated 4/5/2018 2:37:36 PM Central Standard Time, 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu writes:   I just clipped AR2338 -

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

On 5/04/2018 11:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I believe so but, answering Andrew's question, the signature on messages he sends is encrypted using Andrew's private key which he does not disclose even to the CA. The recipient verifies the signature using the public key obtained from the CA.

Re: UA94606

> SLIP A=RECOVERY will stop the ability, but it will do it by causing >a 06F abend in VSM or RSM while their FRRs are still in place, so their >recovery will run, and will likely take an SDUMP of the 06F abend. > >Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. >Poughkeepsie

Re: Archive Questions

This a jet's eye view. When CLIPping volumes, you have to vary them offline/online to all sharing systems. Failure to do that can result in some very distorted views of volume content. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program

Re: UA94606

>I already have VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO). This health check fires anyway. > Apparently there are other ways of getting user key storage, not just >in CSA. Good of IBM to tell us all to write our own code to traverse >SMF 30. Not all of us have SAS, MICS, MXG, etc. You should have >written

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UA94606

VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) only prevents obtaining user key CSA. It does not prevent creating a user key CADS, or using CHANGKEY to change the key of subpool 247 or 248 (DREF SQA) storage to user key. The health check and the new SMF 30 field report all three of those types of

Re: UA94606

SLIP A=RECOVERY will stop the ability, but it will do it by causing a 06F abend in VSM or RSM while their FRRs are still in place, so their recovery will run, and will likely take an SDUMP of the 06F abend. Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie NY

Re: FW: Archive Questions

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 19:16:56 +, Watkins, Philip S. wrote: >I just clipped AR2338 - AR233F and there seems to be an immediate problem. >The new volumes(AR2338-AR233F) show a large dataset using 983040 tracks, Not >sure why? Show us the job that you used to clip the volumes. -- Tom

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

No, @Gil has it right. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Andrew Rowley Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 6:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued On 5/04/2018

Re: Security (was: Software Delivery on Tape ...)

> Near as I can tell from the information I getting (from Symantec and others), > it's not going to get better anytime soon. > From what I've heard, some folks are advocating a 90-day certificate renewal. > While I don't have an issue with that, it > may make automation more important for

Re: [External] Getting a VOLSER for a disk that is a member of a copy pair

It seems context is a player in the semantics portion of the topic. The request is for the type of LIST. 1) You can create a list of volumes that are ONLINE. 2) You can create a list of volumes that are NOT ONLINE/OFFLINE. 3.a) You can create a list of volumes that are either ONLINE or NOT

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Has anyone ever seen something like this before? Two started tasks {both DB2 address spaces] in the same service class and yet have different dispatching priorities? This screen capture shows the essential details. Any thoughts? Adam

Re: [External] Getting a VOLSER for a disk that is a member of a copy pair

Am I 1) at home 2) at the office 3) either 4) both "both" would suggest that my home is my office. Oh wait it is :) But yes, I agree with Rex On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 6:01 AM, Bill Wilkie wrote: > The doc says online, offline and both earlier in the doc. > > Sent

Re: [External] Getting a VOLSER for a disk that is a member of a copy pair

> I somewhat lean toward "NOT ONLINE" over OFFLINE for those PENDING > states. Pending offline volumes are still online. So NOT ONLINE *is* OFFLINE. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Steve Horein > Sent: 05

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Agreed, and further to that point... ... Does the WLM Policy include Using / Delay for I/O samples? In my extensive experience if so 1) The Velocity achieved is normally very high. (Indicates a protective goal of 70% or higher, generally. Imp 1 BTW.) 2) The samples are dominated by Using I/O.

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

These address spaces look like stored procedure address spaces and they are likely marked as a server . Their goals would be managed under the DDF subsystem in WLM classification rules and would depend on what srvclasses are this ASID is servicing. Gabe

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

There is also DIST and DBM1 in there. The action will be heavily geared towards DBM1. (DIST has work in it mostly on Independent Enclaves so relatively little of the work therein is at the address space's DP.) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Gerhard Adam wrote: >Has anyone ever seen something like this before? Two started tasks {both DB2 >address spaces] in the same service class and yet have different dispatching >priorities? This screen capture shows the essential details. What screen print? I only see white letters on a

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Why shouldn't they? WLM manages Goals and uses all resources, including DPTRY, to realize them. I see this now: Jobname SrvClass CUR PTY MZCMT01A BAT_PJ220 COECM01L BAT_PJ224 MZFFB03B BAT_PJ214 DBP1DBM1 DB2P_CTL 246 DBP1DIST DB2P_CTL 246 DB2PSPU1

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Yes, sorry. For some reason the paste didn't work. Basically it simply shows two tasks in the same service class with different dispatching priorities. One has a priority of F6 and the other is F0. Adam -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

DB2 DOESN'T alter DPs. So far I see no cause to panic - so long as goals are being met. (And that they are the right goals.) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Depends on the meaning of 'manage'. Individual units of work don't have a goal, but realizing a Service Class's Goal can only be done by managing the attributes of the individual tasks in the Service Class. As to the suggestion of Service Class Periods: the DB2 Service Classes have only 1

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Workload manager doesn't manage individual address spaces within a service class. That wouldn't make any sense. That's why my question. After all, if the service class has varying dispatching priorities, then how can the goal of the service class be assessed when individual units of work

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 06:14:49 -0700, Gerhard Adam wrote: >Workload manager doesn't manage individual address spaces within >a service class. That wouldn't make any sense. > >That's why my question. After all, if the service class has varying >dispatching priorities, then how can the goal of the

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Correct. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Gabriel Tully > Sent: 05 April, 2018 15:29 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority > > These address spaces look like stored

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Here is my understanding of WLM and dispatching priorities. Dispatching priorities work the same way prior to WLM. If Service class is WLM velocity, then the dispatching priority is a range, just like prior to WLM. However, I don't remember which way SRM adjusts the DP. SRM would adjust DP

Re: File access from remote systems

Thanks, I'm looking at the Rocket Software products. They seem to be more what I was looking for. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim Ruddy Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 11:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: File access from remote systems

W dniu 2018-04-04 o 20:11, Ward, Mike S pisze: No not a remote z/OS, but a distributed system. I.E. Intel and such. Off topic: People tend to say "distributed systems" and "intel systems", while we talk about Windows and Linux/Unix. IMHO it's more appropriate to use LUW - Linux, Unix Windows.

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 13:37:43 +, Edgington, Jerry wrote: >Dispatching priorities work the same way prior to WLM. If Service class is >WLM velocity, then the dispatching priority is a range, just like prior to >WLM. >However, I don't remember which way SRM adjusts the DP. SRM would

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Possible bug in reporting tool? (SDSF, RMF, 3rd Party). Never heard of this, however, if WLM CICS Transaction Management is involved, I can see where it might happen. Also, DB2 is smart enough to alter DP's if it thinks it needs to. I would ask IBM for an explanation. Hopefully you are

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 21:20:48 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >I guess you would call that "issuing a certificate." > >Certificates -- the entire certificate -- are signed. They include a public >key. > I believe so but, answering Andrew's question, the signature on messages he sends is encrypted

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

While multiple periods certainly makes sense, the idea that different dispatching priorities exist within a single period service class doesn't. Workload manager adjusts the dispatching priority of an entire service class, both in terms of "unbunching" and in the algorithms used to assess the

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

I don't see the relevance of enclaves or anything else in this. It is the service class period that matters. So, if I assigned DB2, enclaves, TSO, and batch to the same service class, they should still all have the same dispatching priority. Workload Manager doesn't care what type of work is in

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

WLM uses the configuration to determine what SRVCLASS a specific piece of work should be assigned upon initial job entry. After that, WLM will recommend to SRM how to adjust the dispatching priorities, based on information provided in WLM definitions. WLM doesn't make changes to dispatching

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

SRM is a component of the system control program. It determines which address spaces, of all active address spaces, should be given access to system resources and the rate at which each address space is allowed to consume these resources. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

I beg to differ, but do you have documentation that supports what you say? I have looked at a lot of type 99 records and WLM most certainly assigns the DP. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 5, 2018, at 8:44 AM, Edgington, Jerry > wrote: > > WLM uses the

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaw200/iea3w201112.htm Dispatching Priority SRM defines dispatching priority for service class periods. All address spaces in a service class period have the same base dispatching priority. Multiple service class

Re: UA94606

Since it's a sandbox, set VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO), IPL, and see what crashes! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: UA94606

Re: UA94606

I've been asked off-list to elaborate on my post. Truth is I have nothing else to contribute. Health check ZOSMIGV2R3_NEXT_VSM_USERKEYCOMM is installed by the APAR but not activated. Odd if you ask me. So I activated it just on our sandbox sysplex. *Immediately* got this: * High Severity

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 08:37:20 -0700, Gerhard Adam wrote: >I don't see the relevance of enclaves or anything else in this. It is the >service class period that matters. That is only one factor. Transaction response time goals are another factor. > >So, if I assigned DB2, enclaves, TSO, and batch

Re: UA94606

Good advice for the sandbox. However, identifying the offender is only the first step. Fixing the problem may turn out to be a long and painful journey through the whole enterprise. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program

Re: UA94606

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:20:21 +, Allan Staller wrote: >Since it's a sandbox, set VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO), IPL, and see what crashes! IPL may not be necessary. You can use SET DIAG. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Enclaves are certainly assigned to service classes and can be reset or even quiesced. From the ENC display in SDSF NAMESSType StatusSrvClass Per 240002 STCINACTIVE SYSSTC 1 4C000C STCACTIVE

Re: UA94606

There is information in OA53355 about using SLIP to find the problems nondisruptively. For example, SLIP SET,IF,A=TRACE,ID=UCSA,NUCEP=(IGVVSMG2,0,1),END Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie NY IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Your documentation doesn't say what you say it does. It explicitly indicates that service class periods are associated with a dispatching priority and does not say anything about differences within a service class. In short, there is nothing to indicate that individual address spaces would be

Re: UA94606

Understood! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 11:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: UA94606 Good advice for the sandbox. However, identifying the offender is

Re: UA94606

Agreed. IPL if in doubt. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: UA94606 On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:20:21 +, Allan Staller wrote:

Re: Mini recovery system build

Does anybody have a copy of Mark Zelden's "twopakzd.txt" file? The link is broken on his web page. I did email Mark yesterday, but I have not heard back so he may be busy. Tony Thigpen Lou Losee wrote on 04/04/2018 08:59 AM: http://mzelden.com/mvsutilr.html#jobs Lou -- Artificial

Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

On 6/04/2018 12:41 PM, Charles Mills wrote: No, @Gil has it right. OK, help me understand. I believe so but, answering Andrew's question, the signature on messages he sends is encrypted using Andrew's private key which he does not disclose even to the CA. The signature is encrypted using

Re: UA94606

z/OS V2R3 migration manual (GA32-0089-30) lists some SLIPs to help check usage. David On Thursday, April 5, 2018 Allan Staller wrote: Agreed. IPL if in doubt. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf

Re: UA94606

On 4/5/2018 12:59 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:20:21 +, Allan Staller wrote: Since it's a sandbox, set VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO), IPL, and see what crashes! IPL may not be necessary. You can use SET DIAG. I already have VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO). This health check fires

Re: UA94606

URL please :-) -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) < Mainframe Systems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UA94606

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 18:36:22 +, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote: >What will happen with 2.3? Will this diag setting disappear as it becomes >hardened as NO? It doesn't change with 2.3, but after 2.3. >What will offenders encounter - some kind of x78 or 0C4 or something else? The Init and

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

My dispute about the dispatching priorities comes from the Type 99 subtype 1 records.I've included the data from a report that shows that the dispatching priority changes [including the projected changes afterwards] are all based on the entire service class. In this case, it clearly shows

Re: UA94606

Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: Good advice for the sandbox. However, identifying the offender is only the first step. Fixing the problem may turn out to be a long and painful journey through the whole enterprise. Well, you might have more than one offender. Also, one or more offenders might not

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

A DB2 WLM Stored Procedures server address space might well show up as being in a service class. However, it - with its peers - supports a Service Class / Application Environment combination with a queue of work. The queue of work is EXCLUSIVELY that with the Service Class and also the

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UA94606

We have VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) And yet when we run MXG to look at SMF 30 for that information we see many with a value of '80' but also some with 'A0' and we're not sure what that means. What will happen with 2.3? Will this diag setting disappear as it becomes hardened as NO? What will

Re: UA94606

Can you provide a download link. IBM Pub Center doesn’nt have it. z/OS 2.3 Internet library shows it, but gets page not found when attempting to download. KC has all the info, but is not suitable for offline perusal. TIA, From: David Purdy [mailto:dpurd...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018

Re: UA94606

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 12:01:00 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >IPL may not be necessary. You can use SET DIAG. Of course, that won't catch an address space that allocates user key CSA before the DIAG trap was set. e.g. address spaces started at IPL time. -- Tom Marchant

Re: UA94606

Never mid. I found it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 1:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: UA94606 Can you provide a download link. IBM Pub Center doesn’nt

Re: UA94606

https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zOSV2R3Library?OpenDocument Expand the list for SYSTEM LEVEL About 2/3's down the list it will be there. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B.

Re: UA94606

Thank you -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) < Mainframe Systems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UA94606

x'A0' means that someone created a user key CADS (Common Area Data Space, aka SCOPE=COMMON Data Space). Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie NY IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 04/05/2018 02:36:22 PM: > From:

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UA94606

Thank you Since we have the DIAG set to NO is there a reason to keep the Health Check enabled? -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) < Mainframe Systems Programmer - RavenTek Solution Partners -Original Message- From:

FW: Archive Questions

I just clipped AR2338 - AR233F and there seems to be an immediate problem. The new volumes(AR2338-AR233F) show a large dataset using 983040 tracks, Not sure why? Data Set Name . . . . : FDRABR.VAR2330 (PREVIOUSLY DEFINED) Data Set Name . . . . : FDRABR.VAR2338

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

Thanks. That helps. However, doesn't that now suggest that the monitor's display is actually wrong? In other words, I would expect that if a monitor was going to display a dispatching priority, it would also display the service class with which it was associated. It would be erroneous to