Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-11 Thread kekronbekron
For our benefit here, could you please share what the conclusion is? - KB --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, July 12th, 2023 at 9:17 AM, Laurence Chiu wrote: > Thanks. I thought as much as Googled for this but this link didn't pop up. > That is pretty conclusive. > > On Wed,

Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-11 Thread Laurence Chiu
Thanks. I thought as much as Googled for this but this link didn't pop up. That is pretty conclusive. On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 12:11 PM Joe Monk wrote: > Page 129 > > https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245444.pdf > > Joe > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 5:12 PM Laurence Chiu wrote: > > >

Re: Latches?

2023-07-11 Thread Bill Hitefield
Seymour, An ESA 4.3 announcement letter (from 1992) references them. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/announcements/archive/ENUS292-308 Hope this helps. Bill Hitefield > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:23

Re: DB2 install clist IRX0041I

2023-07-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
thanks for your response. I did run DSNTIJXZ, it turns out in the first panel I was pointing to the wrong version SMPe libraries. thanks Bill On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 12:24:05 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Bill, > >Did you run the DSNTEJxZ job from SDSNSAMP. This captures your existing >parameter

Re: "National" characters

2023-07-11 Thread Peter Relson
The ID (now CDD) folks had years ago made us refer to @,$,# as "special characters" rather than as "national characters". It is disappointing that they did not change the publications to be consistent with that directive. By all means point out the discrepancies that you spot. I'll bet that

Re: "National" characters

2023-07-11 Thread Bob Bridges
It was never clear to me why the term "national" was picked in the first place. Although I worked for Volvo 14 years (jag Verkade på Volvo Lastvagnar fyrtio år) and on the Swedish side those keys produced characters in the Swedish alphabet - I don't remember which ones exactly, but probably

Re: DB2 install clist IRX0041I

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
All good Bill. On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 6:39 PM Bill Giannelli wrote: > thanks for your response. > I did run DSNTIJXZ, it turns out in the first panel I was pointing to the > wrong version SMPe libraries. > thanks > Bill > > On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 12:24:05 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike > wrote: > >

Latches?

2023-07-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Were latches part of MVS/ESA SP V4.3 OE, or did they come later? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: "National" characters

2023-07-11 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I think “Special" is a more accurate term today. For instance, I’ve used them to force some members to the top of a list based on sort order. Matt Hogstrom “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." — Hogstrom > On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:50 PM, Gibney, Dave >

Re: "National" characters

2023-07-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 13:48:31 -0400, Matt Hogstrom wrote: >I think “Special" is a more accurate term today. For instance, I’ve used them >to force some members to the top of a list based on sort order. > Classic MacOS allowed NUL in filenames and some authors employed it for that purpose,

Re: "National" characters

2023-07-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
I believe that the distinction is still relevant today. The original use of the term national character was for special characters whose code points mapped to different glyphs in different EBCDIC code pages. Thus "." and "[" would both be special characters, but only "[" would be a national

C DLL abend CEE3350S

2023-07-11 Thread Eric Erickson
I've a LE C DLL I've built that contains a several modules. It has both C and a LE callable Assembler routines. When I first bound the moudle, it did not set CEESTART as the entry point, so I added an ENTRY CEESTART to the binder input deck. This results in a load module that shows the

Re: "National" characters

2023-07-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's a definite maybe. You can certainly have a null in a quoted DSN, but you can't catalog it, which makes it pretty useless. I can see nulls in path names creating all sorts of havoc in a Eunix environment, but it's not my dog. PL/I allows the three national characters #, $ and @ in

Re: C DLL abend CEE3350S

2023-07-11 Thread Eric Erickson
I know, but the CEESTART CSECT is included in the program object. On another DLL, which is just 1 module with multiple functions, the CEESTART CSECT is listed in the load map as such. 0 CEESTART*

Re: "National" characters

2023-07-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
US/Europe centered attitude $ Currency - Dollar # Weight - Pound @ per item - at > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bob Bridges > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 6:00 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: "National" characters > > It was

Re: C DLL abend CEE3350S

2023-07-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
There's a difference between an entry point and a csect. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Eric Erickson Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 2:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: C DLL abend CEE3350S I've a LE C DLL I've built that

Re: "National" characters

2023-07-11 Thread M. Ray Mullins (Ray)
I think the term “national characters” has its origins in the COBOL standard. The “special” characters can produce some interesting output. I once had to deal with a Turkish customer who used Top Secret. User resources classes should begin with X’5B’, which in CP 1026 (Latin-5/Turkish) is İ.

Re: "National" characters

2023-07-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 18:35:14 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >That's a definite maybe. You can certainly have a null in a quoted DSN, but >you can't catalog it, which makes it pretty useless. > I bet STOW allows them. Probably BLDL, LINK, ... When I first discovered apostrophes I created various

Re: Basic VM/CMS question (GENMOD)

2023-07-11 Thread Phil Smith III
Bernd Oppolzer asked about a GENMOD problem. The z/VM LIST is at ib...@listserv.uark.edu , which means lists...@listserv.uark.edu is where you can subscribe (well, any of the LISTSERVs should work, but). Meanwhile,

Re: C DLL abend CEE3350S

2023-07-11 Thread Eric Erickson
These are the ones that are explicitly set. LANGLVL(EXTC1X) LIST ILP32 DEBUG(LEVEL(9)) AGGREGATE(OFFSETHEX) NOXPLINK DLL

Re: "National" characters

2023-07-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
STOW will accept anything. Re it's not my job, see . From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 3:37 PM To:

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
*Can anyone remember the major DB2 player was?* *On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 8:26 AM Edward Gould <04bcc43af339-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu <04bcc43af339-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>> wrote:* *Was it Sterling Software/Platinum?*

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-11 Thread Mike Shaw
Platinum is right. We used to carry Platinum Software DB2 utility msgs in the MVS/QuickRef DB. Mike Shaw Chicago-Soft, Ltd. On Tue, Jul 11, 2023, 4:29 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > *Can anyone remember the major DB2 player was?* > > > *On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 8:26 AM Edward Gould >

OSA-ICC question

2023-07-11 Thread Laurence Chiu
We are having a LPAR being stood up on an outsourcing company's host. It will be for our use but they will manage it via the HMC's and possibly the OSA-ICC port. All regular access to the LPAR will be via 3270 and using our accounts. But a question was asked, what about OSA-ICC access. My

Re: Invoke Java from Assembler

2023-07-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
If you need to launch the Java virtual machine and invoke methods, it will be *much* easier to use C or C++ since you need to use "JNI" and the include files are provided and you need a LE XPLINK linkage and runtime environment. I've done that and it works fine (both 31 and 64 bit SDK

Re: Basic VM/CMS question (GENMOD)

2023-07-11 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Sorry, I have to apologize ... the error is NOT a GENMOD problem, instead the message is written by XRUNPARM itself, when it tries to load the GENMODed Pascal program ... I should have looked there first. Didn't remember that XRUNPARM does such a BADSIZE check, because it worked for decades,

Re: C DLL abend CEE3350S

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
What compiler directives were used? On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 5:18 AM Eric Erickson wrote: > I know, but the CEESTART CSECT is included in the program object. On > another DLL, which is just 1 module with multiple functions, the CEESTART > CSECT is listed in the load map as such. > > >

Re: C DLL abend CEE3350S

2023-07-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
In the z/OS dlls that we have built that contain C, C++, and Assembler routines we don't reference CEESTART *anywhere* in our source tree. - Did you compile with: -W "c,dll,expo" ? - We bind our dll with z/OS Unix make using c++ (or c89, xlc) command as shown in "z/OS XL C/C++ User's

Re: C DLL abend CEE3350S

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Do you have an INCLUDE for the CEESTART module? Does LE look for an eyecatcher that it recognises as CEESTART, not just an ENTRY which as Seymour says isn't the same. Take LET off the bind in case there's another hidden problem. On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 5:18 AM Eric Erickson wrote: > I know,

Re: Basic VM/CMS question (GENMOD)

2023-07-11 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Update: the error only occurs, if I specify the ORIGIN parameter on the LOAD command; if I don't, the first object is loaded at hex 2, and the GENMOD works without problems. But: because my command line mapping program (XRUNPARM) runs first and then calls the Pascal program, the Pascal

Re: Cobol question

2023-07-11 Thread Joe Monk
You can always map the TCB and reference field TCBTTIME to get the accumulated CPU time for the task - I think its offset 316 decimal. Joe On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 4:22 PM Pommier, Rex wrote: > Hey all, > > I just got this tossed at me by an application developer. Cobol 6.3. Is > there some

Invoke Java from Assembler

2023-07-11 Thread Crawford Robert C (Contractor)
We're interested in invoking Java from assembler in batch. Specifically, we'd like to create a persistent Java environment we can call repeatedly and terminate when we're through. Has anyone done this? Is the LE pre-initialization module CEEPIPI worth exploring? Thanks. Robert Crawford

Re: Invoke Java from Assembler

2023-07-11 Thread allan winston
Robert, This reminds me of a situation I ran into 25 years ago involving assembler and COBOL. Granted, COBOL and Java are different environments, but there may be enough similarity in the issues to be relevant. We had an assembler main program that called a COBOL subroutine repeatedly.

Re: C DLL abend CEE3350S

2023-07-11 Thread Eric Erickson
I've already built another DLL successfully, albeit with just 1 module. And we are doing all this on the z/OS side and not the USS side so those commands are not available for use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Basic VM/CMS question (GENMOD)

2023-07-11 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Hello all, I know that this is maybe not the right list for asking questions on the VM/CMS system, but forgive me ... I am registered to many lists, but no VM list, and today I have a problem which could be a simple problem, so I would like to try it here. I am trying to build my Pascal

Cobol question

2023-07-11 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hey all, I just got this tossed at me by an application developer. Cobol 6.3. Is there some built-in function or something that they can put into a program to report out the amount of CPU (TCB) time the program has consumed thus far in execution of the program? We have a program that

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-11 Thread Phil Smith III
Wayne Bickerdike wrote: *Was it Sterling Software/Platinum?* Heh. Different metals, different companies-but both wound up as part of CA eventually. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-11 Thread Joe Monk
Page 129 https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245444.pdf Joe On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 5:12 PM Laurence Chiu wrote: > We are having a LPAR being stood up on an outsourcing company's host. It > will be for our use but they will manage it via the HMC's and possibly the > OSA-ICC port.

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
The slash was an or symbol. Codeset anybody? On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 8:35 AM Phil Smith III wrote: > Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > *Was it Sterling Software/Platinum?* > > Heh. Different metals, different companies-but both wound up as part of CA > eventually. > > > > >