On 30/06/2013 2:03 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 6/29/2013 9:38 PM, David Crayford wrote:
It's good that they accepted the requirement. Reading between the
lines they're saying We think it's a good requirement. We want to do
it, but we probably won't. At least not anytime soon.
I have been looking
On 6/29/2013 11:17 PM, David Crayford wrote:
Thanks. Maybe I was confused by the last sentence This is not a
commitment to deliver the code, but if we do it it would be a line
item and would take a few years before it can be delivered.
A line item means it would show up only on a release
On 30/06/2013 2:25 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 6/29/2013 11:17 PM, David Crayford wrote:
Thanks. Maybe I was confused by the last sentence This is not a
commitment to deliver the code, but if we do it it would be a line
item and would take a few years before it can be delivered.
A line item
On 29/06/2013 6:39 PM, Martin Packer wrote:
+1 for taking a look at the language - in case its party tricks are
compelling. But I wonder how many packages are written in Lua - and that's
my real beef.
There are *lots* of packages. The official packaging tool is luarocks,
which is similar to
Rob Schramm wrote:
Did anyone mention OMVS?
Groan... ;-D
Good catch, no one mentioned OMVS at all in this thread. When it comes to OMVS
and all its security things, that alone is a whole book for us greaybeards. ;-D
Good luck to the OP, now that you mention OMVS/USS/zFS/etc... ;-D
What else
All,
I find this article/thread interesting. Statistically , about 80 % of all
Banking and Insurance is on z/OS. Why shouldn't we developers, of which i am
one, have access to the tools we need to develop top notch software. LUA I know
a little, Python some and it's very impressive as is
Ed,
I am reading through this thread and i am confused . What did the IBM
announcement say about z/OS EXECIO ? I see they are talking about VBS ..was tat
the total announcement or did I miss something ?
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On 6/30/2013 9:01 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
All,
I find this article/thread interesting. Statistically , about 80 % of all
Banking and Insurance is on z/OS. Why shouldn't we developers, of which i am
one, have access to the tools we need to develop top notch software. LUA I know
a little, Python
Steve,
To me. This my personal opinion, I like the flexibility to be creative in
different languages.
I don't have a problem with practical, but sometimes it chokes creativity a tad
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Jun 30, 2013, at
In
ofe878f739.f906bf47-on80257b99.004c84e9-80257b99.004e8...@uk.ibm.com,
on 06/29/2013
at 03:17 PM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com said:
Would dearly love to see PHP,
Be careful what you ask for - you might get it. There are cleaner
languages.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
In 1427790225797888.wa.ibmmaintpg.com...@listserv.ua.edu, on
06/28/2013
at 09:00 PM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au said:
Lua - yet another language to maybe have a look at.
All I know about it is that wiki is using it. Anybody have a link?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and
In
of28a24a26.61fdf4d9-on80257b99.0039d7d3-80257b99.003a9...@uk.ibm.com,
on 06/29/2013
at 11:39 AM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com said:
In the Munich System z Technical University conference 2 weeks ago
Marna Walle mentioned that in z/OS 2.1 EXECIO is previewed to
perform I/O to VBS
Steve, are you sure?
If you pass the name of a structure, the entire structure is passed in the
argument list
I would quibble with that depending on exactly what you mean.
If you pass the name of any item preceded by an apostrophe the address of the
item is passed in the argument list
I
From the Preview Doc for z/OS V2.1
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/ENUS213-013/ENUS213-013.PDF
In z/OS V2.1, TSO/E is planned to provide a number of REXX enhancements to
EXECIO, LISTDSI, and STORAGE, and to provide a new variable to indicate the
level
of the operating system. These
Lizette,
Thank you very much ...I really appreciate it
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Jun 30, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
From the Preview Doc for z/OS V2.1
? EXECIO isn't part of Rexx...
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote:
In
of28a24a26.61fdf4d9-on80257b99.0039d7d3-80257b99.003a9...@uk.ibm.com,
on 06/29/2013
at 11:39 AM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com said:
In the Munich System
On 6/30/2013 12:17 PM, Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:
In
of28a24a26.61fdf4d9-on80257b99.0039d7d3-80257b99.003a9...@uk.ibm.com,
on 06/29/2013
at 11:39 AM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com said:
In the Munich System z Technical University conference 2 weeks ago
Marna Walle mentioned
On 6/30/2013 10:22 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
Steve, are you sure?
If you pass the name of a structure, the entire structure is passed in the
argument list
I would quibble with that depending on exactly what you mean.
Quibble away. There are a lot of variables; for example, using
pragma
Steve Comstock wrote:
begin extract
My whole point was to address the assertion from an earlier point in
this thread that C invariably passes arguments by reference.
/end extract
and it is well that he did so.
C has historically passed scalars by value, a silly term that means by
copying their
Dave,
Rexx already does support VSAM, though not natively with EXECIO. See RXVSAM
here:
http://rxvsam.sourceforge.net/
Or the version on CBT in file 268.
HTH
Peter
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of David Crayford
If you are feeling the need for extra paranoia, Ray Overby's tool to probe
all the services that might allow the MVS equivalent of super user. For
data... PCI .. Xbridge for analyzing all data on the system for compliance.
Seems that there is a RACF hacking guide for subverting a security DB.
As I pointed out earlier, C
NEVER passes arguments by reference.
There is only one (kind of) exception to this rule, that is:
the name of a vector is always the same as the address of its first
element,
that is
if x is a vector, then x is the same as x[0],
so if you pass x (a vector) to a
Sorry,
arrays not, structures yes.
Kind regards
Bernd
Am 30.06.2013 20:28, schrieb John Gilmore:
Steve Comstock wrote:
begin extract
My whole point was to address the assertion from an earlier point in
this thread that C invariably passes arguments by reference.
/end extract
and it is
I do C classes and C development since very long time now,
and this is the reason why we always recommend to explicitly pass
addresses of structures in C, never the structures itself, because
the structures get copied otherwise, which means a lot of CPU time
and storage waste.
Normally in C you
On 6/30/2013 3:58 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
As I pointed out earlier, C NEVER passes arguments by reference.
Well, if you pass, say record then the address of record
is passed in the argument list, so record is passed by
reference. However, one could argue that 'record' is a
pointer and the
:: -Original Message-
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:: Behalf Of Bernd Oppolzer
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::
:: As I pointed out earlier, C
::
It's exactly this way,
record is the address of the structure named record,
and the address is passed by value, that is,
copied to the stack.
When teaching C language, I always say, that all arguments are passed
by value,
even x (if x is a vector) is passed by value because x is the same as
On 30 Jun 2013 14:34:01 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
If you are feeling the need for extra paranoia, Ray Overby's tool to probe
all the services that might allow the MVS equivalent of super user. For
data... PCI .. Xbridge for analyzing all data on the system for compliance.
Seems
In
cae1xxdhugdybgd4rxu8qjtxmcy-ucsrr_h+vctfypmcieex...@mail.gmail.com,
on 06/30/2013
at 02:28 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
C has historically passed scalars by value, a silly term that means
by copying their current values on to the stack. As many people here
know, I am no great
In 51d0c82f.4090...@t-online.de, on 07/01/2013
at 02:07 AM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de said:
By the way: the term by value is inherited from ALGOL; there are
two parameter passing mechanisms in ALGOL - by value and by name
Thunks for the memories.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.)
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:25:03 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Have they added the language enhancements in OOREXX, or at least those
in the ANSI standard?
What are the enhancements in the ANSI standard?
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:16:21 -0400, Scott Ford wrote:
I am reading through this
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:33:52 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote:
If you are feeling the need for extra paranoia, Ray Overby's tool to probe
all the services that might allow the MVS equivalent of super user. For
data... PCI .. Xbridge for analyzing all data on the system for compliance.
Could it be ...
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 02:07:11 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
By the way: the term by value is inherited from ALGOL; there are
two parameter passing mechanisms in ALGOL - by value and by name -
no by reference. By name is similar to by reference, but more complicated -
and not the same.
That's Algol
It's hard to extend REXX. I wrote a regular expression package that
wraps the C++ TR1 regex engine that came along in z/OS V1.10. The REXX
interface is pretty much written for assembler clients. It would be more
useful
if it handled LE like ISPF now does in BRIF/EDIF etc. I had to write a
On 1/07/2013 1:25 AM, Thomas Conley wrote:
On 6/30/2013 12:17 PM, Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:
In
of28a24a26.61fdf4d9-on80257b99.0039d7d3-80257b99.003a9...@uk.ibm.com,
on 06/29/2013
at 11:39 AM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com said:
In the Munich System z Technical University
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