Re: CA-7 question

2015-06-15 Thread Ego RSD
Hi Scott,

If that can helps... 

FYI and As per documented .

Demanding a job into the request queue does not automatically result in 
immediate submission for execution. When a DEMAND is issued for a job, that job 
is placed in the request queue where the availability of its input requirements 
is determined. (To request immediate scheduling without requirements checking, 
use the RUN and RUNH commands.) The same process occurs when a job is 
automatically scheduled into the queues.

So a  DEMANDed job might not start immediately and might also triggers other 
job depending on SCHID (So be careful when demanding a job as it might trigger 
a long jobs chain , if you want to submit a unique job prefer the RUN command)  
 .

Hi Lucas,

Basically to identify the reason for which a job stands in the QUEUE and is not 
submitted as we are expected to is to use the command :

LQP,JOB=jobname,LIST=STATUS

This usually display a second line of meaningful info   .

Thanks and regards,
Eric Goldenberg
RSD SA
ego@com

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Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Oren, Yifat
See 
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/applicationdevelopment/rexx_smf_part4/
 for a great REXX example (SMF type 30).

BTW, with z/OS 2.1 Rexx can read VBS's so it is now very well equipped to 
easily read dumped SMF records.
 
Regards,
Yifat

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SYS1.MANX directly?

Charles Mills wrote:

SMF record formats are all documented (some a lot more thoroughly than others 
LOL). 

Of course. Just have a good calculator ready... ;-D


Having somehow queued your records for further processing, you can do analysis 
to your heart's content in assembler, COBOL, or your language of choice.

With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its sections 
with COBOL? [1] With Assembler that is easy and I have written numerous 
Assembler programs, but for COBOL, I need to read+copy raw SMF records with an 
Assembler program and then re-read/process those copied records with a COBOL 
program.

How do you handle variable record lengths and varying sections lengths and 
quantities and their offsets with COBOL? Any examples, please?

Now, Can you do that same reading and handling raw SMF records with REXX, Perl, 
PL/I [I believe you can, I faintly remembered seeing some ancient progs for SMF 
handling], etc?

Oh, ICETOOL has already some nice examples, but I also don't see a way to 
handle SMF records like SMF type 30 and all their sections.

TIA.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

[1] - I have written COBOL programs but for fixed record lengths, like SMF 17, 
SMF 18 and such. Those COBOL programs were needed to trap culprits who 
deleted/renamed datasets (and said 'I did not do that!') before RACF was fully 
in place.

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Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Charles Mills wrote:

SMF record formats are all documented (some a lot more thoroughly than others 
LOL). 

Of course. Just have a good calculator ready... ;-D


Having somehow queued your records for further processing, you can do analysis 
to your heart's content in assembler, COBOL, or your language of choice.

With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its sections 
with COBOL? [1] With Assembler that is easy and I have written numerous 
Assembler programs, but for COBOL, I need to read+copy raw SMF records with an 
Assembler program and then re-read/process those copied records with a COBOL 
program.

How do you handle variable record lengths and varying sections lengths and 
quantities and their offsets with COBOL? Any examples, please?

Now, Can you do that same reading and handling raw SMF records with REXX, Perl, 
PL/I [I believe you can, I faintly remembered seeing some ancient progs for SMF 
handling], etc?

Oh, ICETOOL has already some nice examples, but I also don't see a way to 
handle SMF records like SMF type 30 and all their sections.

TIA.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

[1] - I have written COBOL programs but for fixed record lengths, like SMF 17, 
SMF 18 and such. Those COBOL programs were needed to trap culprits who 
deleted/renamed datasets (and said 'I did not do that!') before RACF was fully 
in place.

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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
One thing to bear in mind is that you cannot guarantee that the R13 at the time 
of error is the same as the R13 that you establish in your SRB.

If you use this technique, I would recommend some verification steps in your 
FRR code before you use the R13 from the SDWA.

Rob Scott
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Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

No that big of a deal

I'll just prime R13 from the SDWA with the value that the SRB had for 13 Which 
had my working storage

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 On Jun 14, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote:

 So I guess my question, what is the issue?

 It has the FRRADDR to pass an address of the FRR to get control.  What
 parms do you need to pass to the FRR?

 Specifies the name (RS-type), or address in register (2)-(12), of an
 optional 4 byte input that contains the address of the Functional
 Recovery Routine (FRR) that is to be established prior to the SRB
 routine receiving control. The low bit of this address should not be
 set on. If it is set on, that bit will not be treated as part of the
 FRR address, but will be treated as indicating SDWALOC31=YES and will
 override the specification, or default, of SDWALOC31=NO.

 The FRR receives control in supervisor state, PSW key 0, primary ASC
 mode, 31-bit addressing mode, holding the same locks the SRB routine
 held at the time of error. The FRR receives control with the same
 PASID, SASID, and HASID as the SRB routine had on entry.

 If you specify LLOCK=YES, then the FRR should release the LOCAL lock
 prior to the completion of its processing.


 Lizette


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 The IEAMSCHD has a FRRADDR parm
 But doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine

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Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jason Cai wrote:

We always analyse SMF data after we dump SYS1.MANX.   

Good. Hourly, Daily, monthly, etc? Do you splice your records? Say, RMF to 
dataset1, RACF to dataset2, Catalog to dataset3 and so on? Or do you grab all 
and everything and place them on daily dsn and MOD them later to monthly dsn?

 
Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX 
directly without dump SYS1.MANX?  

Yes, lots [freebies or commercial] of them including IBM's zSecure [1]. Or you 
can roll your own SMFU83/84/85 exits and enable them in SMFPRMxx.


As you know,IBM zSecure ALTER  tool could analyze SMF records in real time. 

Interactively or in Batch, but then only for records [RACF, Jobs (SMF Type 30 
for example), RMF [interval records for example), OMVS, TCP/IP, DB2, CICS and 
perhaps others too] needed for zSecure.


We wonder if there is any interface which could help us to develop programs to 
analyze SMF records in real time. 

What are you trying to solve? Perhaps there are better solutions. But yes, the 
interface is already in place (SMF exits).

[1] - zSecure only reads, but does not make any copies of those raw SMF records 
AFAIK. 

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Peter Relson
doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine
Because it doesn't need one.

I'll just prime R13 from the SDWA with the value that the SRB had for 13

This sort of post scares the heck out of experienced z/OS people.
Are you 100% sure that the FRR got control due to an error while your 
module (with your R13) was in control?
Are you 100% sure that the FRR got control with valid time-of-error 
registers (there are some machine checks for which that information is not 
available)?

If you know that R13 contains some value, then your code put it there. 
When? While the SRB routine was running. If your code sets R13, then it 
can also set a word in the FRR parameter area, the address of which is 
provided to the SRB routine in R2 on entry when that SRB routine requested 
the establishment of an FRR.

For good form, the FRR should always look to see if the information it 
expected to be there was indeed there (as opposed to blowing up right 
after the FRR was set but before you were able to store the information).

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote:

Remember that SMF is being written a lot and quickly.

Indeed. For some type of events recorded in SMF, I wrote automation rules to 
cancel a STC or notify me or do something else. Simply for the reason of speed 
of filling up my SYS1.MANx and my daily datasets. Your LPAR may grind to a halt 
(no new A/S) if all page datasets fill up due to SMF A/S own buffers being 
full. Somewhat big fun...


You question is very wide-ranging with many solutions.  Some you have to code, 
some vendor products can provide.

Indeed. that original question is too wide-ranging. Depending on type of 
events, I would look in other places to monitor that specific events. For 
example, I would use automation software to sniff around in SYSLOG and 
Consoles. Failing that, if RACF related, I can use zSecure to sniff around in 
SYS1.MANx. For other things, I just issue 'I SMF'.


If you can explain what you are trying to do, then the answers can be more 
directed to your needs.

I'm still waiting with a sore heart for that... ;-)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
Wow
So I prime R2 
And R2 has to be 24 key 0 I guess I can use LSQA shouldn't bump heads with the 
os
Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit address of the 
 FRR parameter area.
 
 You can pass parameters to your FRR from your SRB by using this address.
 
 Your FRR can establish addressability to whatever you store there by using 
 the SDWAPARM field.
 
 Note that you will need to be in Key0 to store at this address.
 
 Rob Scott
 Principal Software Engineer
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 The IEAMSCHD has a FRRADDR parm
 But doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine
 
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Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Oren, Yifat wrote:

See 
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/applicationdevelopment/rexx_smf_part4/
 for a great REXX example (SMF type 30). 

Cool! It is indeed great! Many thanks, I totally forgot about George Ng, the 
author of that REXX program. I see that REXX is also plagued [for now] by the 
inability to read VBS datasets, but it uses IDCAMS repro from VBS to VB data 
and then process the SMF records.
 
Thanks, I also see that nice parse statement handling SMF Julian dates. 

BTW, with z/OS 2.1 Rexx can read VBS's so it is now very well equipped to 
easily read dumped SMF records. 

Ah, yes, I forgot that. It was mentioned in the first z/OS v2.1 announcement.  
I believe that REXX sample can be shortened to omit the REPRO step.

Hard to remember everything... ;-)

Thanks for your kind reminder. I really appreciate it.

While REXX is somewhat heavy on speed and resources, that sample is a very good 
tool for a quick and dirty SMF job.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
Remember that SMF is being written a lot and quickly.

Depending on what you are looking to do, you need to consider any issues a real 
time monitor might have on SMF Processing.

So, are you looking to monitor ALL records or some?
Are there specific SMF Records you want to monitor?
Are there specific events you want to monitor?
Are you looking for number of SMF records written broken down by Type and 
Time/Date?
Are you looking for alerts based on certain information that is captured by 
SMF? - If yes, what kind.

You question is very wide-ranging with many solutions.  Some you have to code, 
some vendor products can provide.

If you can explain what you are trying to do, then the answers can be more 
directed to your needs.

Lizette


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 On Behalf Of ibmmain
 Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:21 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor
 SYS1.MANX directly?
 
 Dear
 
  As you know,IBM zSecure ALTER  tool could analyze SMF records in real time.
 
 We wonder if there is any interface which could help us to develop programs
 to analyze SMF records in real time.
 
 Thanks a lot!
 
 Regards,
 
 Jason Cai
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Roberto Pacheco
 Date: 2015-06-15 10:44
 To: IBM-MAIN
 Subject: Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor
 SYS1.MANX directly?
 Yes, there are some softwares that analyze SMFs
 
 Dino Explorer can collect and analyze SMF records in real time. Optionally, it
 can collect and after discard the SMF record, so it is not be written at MAN
 files
 
 More information www.4bears.com.br
 
 Regards,
 
 Roberto Pacheco
 On Jun 14, 2015 11:16 PM, ibmmain ibmm...@foxmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi all
 
   We always analyse SMF data after we dump SYS1.MANX.
 
   Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor
  SYS1.MANX directly without dump SYS1.MANX?
 
  Thanks a lot!
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Jason Cai

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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Relson wrote:

I'll just prime R13 from the SDWA with the value that the SRB had for 13

This sort of post scares the heck out of experienced z/OS people.

I would also be scared. In fact, if the person who wants to do that stunt while 
being APF authorised, I would simply remove all exits, programs, etc, and 
revoke + cancel his running session(s).

Thanks Peter for stating your sanity check questions. I am very sure I (and 
others) cannot answer your questions without breaking something.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
This was a follow up from a suggestion of not knowing what type of storage 
VSMLOC was processing. I was issuing VSMLOC from an SRB
And coding of PVT for a LSQA address would generate a ABEND which I would 
subsequently 
Re-try with the correct LSQA PARM in the VSMLOC

I wasn't sure how to get the address space boundaries from the LDA

Maybe this was not the correct approach 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine
 Because it doesn't need one.
 
 I'll just prime R13 from the SDWA with the value that the SRB had for 13
 
 This sort of post scares the heck out of experienced z/OS people.
 Are you 100% sure that the FRR got control due to an error while your 
 module (with your R13) was in control?
 Are you 100% sure that the FRR got control with valid time-of-error 
 registers (there are some machine checks for which that information is not 
 available)?
 
 If you know that R13 contains some value, then your code put it there. 
 When? While the SRB routine was running. If your code sets R13, then it 
 can also set a word in the FRR parameter area, the address of which is 
 provided to the SRB routine in R2 on entry when that SRB routine requested 
 the establishment of an FRR.
 
 For good form, the FRR should always look to see if the information it 
 expected to be there was indeed there (as opposed to blowing up right 
 after the FRR was set but before you were able to store the information).
 
 Peter Relson
 z/OS Core Technology Design
 
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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
No.

On entry to your SRB, the *system* sets R2 to the FRR parameter area pointer if 
you code FRR=YES on IEAMSCHD.

See the doc on IEAMSCHD in Auth Asm Services Guide.

Rob Scott
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Sent: 15 June 2015 13:34
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Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

Wow
So I prime R2
And R2 has to be 24 key 0 I guess I can use LSQA shouldn't bump heads with the 
os Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

 When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit address of the 
 FRR parameter area.

 You can pass parameters to your FRR from your SRB by using this address.

 Your FRR can establish addressability to whatever you store there by using 
 the SDWAPARM field.

 Note that you will need to be in Key0 to store at this address.

 Rob Scott
 Principal Software Engineer
 Rocket Software
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 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com


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 The IEAMSCHD has a FRRADDR parm
 But doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine

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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
I hear you I'll put an eye catcher and do a sanity check

Thanks 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 5:11 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 One thing to bear in mind is that you cannot guarantee that the R13 at the 
 time of error is the same as the R13 that you establish in your SRB.
 
 If you use this technique, I would recommend some verification steps in your 
 FRR code before you use the R13 from the SDWA.
 
 Rob Scott
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 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of michelbutz
 Sent: 14 June 2015 19:49
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param
 
 No that big of a deal
 
 I'll just prime R13 from the SDWA with the value that the SRB had for 13 
 Which had my working storage
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 14, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 So I guess my question, what is the issue?
 
 It has the FRRADDR to pass an address of the FRR to get control.  What
 parms do you need to pass to the FRR?
 
 Specifies the name (RS-type), or address in register (2)-(12), of an
 optional 4 byte input that contains the address of the Functional
 Recovery Routine (FRR) that is to be established prior to the SRB
 routine receiving control. The low bit of this address should not be
 set on. If it is set on, that bit will not be treated as part of the
 FRR address, but will be treated as indicating SDWALOC31=YES and will
 override the specification, or default, of SDWALOC31=NO.
 
 The FRR receives control in supervisor state, PSW key 0, primary ASC
 mode, 31-bit addressing mode, holding the same locks the SRB routine
 held at the time of error. The FRR receives control with the same
 PASID, SASID, and HASID as the SRB routine had on entry.
 
 If you specify LLOCK=YES, then the FRR should release the LOCAL lock
 prior to the completion of its processing.
 
 
 Lizette
 
 
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Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Charles Mills
 With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its 
 sections with COBOL?

Good point. Perhaps not. You could certainly do some processing of some SMF 
records with COBOL, or you could write an assembler routine to make SMF triplet 
sections readily addressable with COBOL. Or perhaps with native COBOL -- 
doesn't COBOL now have some sort of based variable support? IANACP (I am not a 
COBOL programmer.)

Charles

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SYS1.MANX directly?

Charles Mills wrote:

SMF record formats are all documented (some a lot more thoroughly than others 
LOL). 

Of course. Just have a good calculator ready... ;-D


Having somehow queued your records for further processing, you can do analysis 
to your heart's content in assembler, COBOL, or your language of choice.

With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its sections 
with COBOL? [1] With Assembler that is easy and I have written 

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Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread David Crayford

On 15/06/2015 9:17 PM, Charles Mills wrote:

With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its sections 
with COBOL?

Good point. Perhaps not. You could certainly do some processing of some SMF 
records with COBOL, or you could write an assembler routine to make SMF triplet 
sections readily addressable with COBOL. Or perhaps with native COBOL -- 
doesn't COBOL now have some sort of based variable support? IANACP (I am not a 
COBOL programmer.)


COBOL can do all the offset based stuff. It used to be terrible at 
pointer arithmetic but handle that now without a sweat.


If you have the mappings COBOL would probably be a better choice then a 
lot of languages. Especially now it's fast.




Charles

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Subject: Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor 
SYS1.MANX directly?

Charles Mills wrote:


SMF record formats are all documented (some a lot more thoroughly than others 
LOL).

Of course. Just have a good calculator ready... ;-D



Having somehow queued your records for further processing, you can do analysis 
to your heart's content in assembler, COBOL, or your language of choice.

With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its sections 
with COBOL? [1] With Assembler that is easy and I have written

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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michealbutz
So All I have to do is set what I want in  the 24 bytes R2 is pointing to 

thanks so much   

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Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

Apologies, the FRR=YES was copied from the Auth Asm Services Guide 
description of the reg contents at SRB entry and refers to the keyword on 
SCHEDULE.

The appropriate keyword on IEAMSCHD is FRRADDR= with a value that is not 
NOFRR

As stated before, you do not have to code anything, the system will prime R2 
for your SRB to use on entry.

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Rob

With all you due respect I looked at the IEAMSCHD macro in Sys1.maclibb

And all I see is FRRADDR= a pointer the FRR routine I don't see FRR= parameter

If I code FRRADDR= address of my FRR routine Am I supposed to prime R2 with the 
FRR parameter area

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

 No.

 On entry to your SRB, the *system* sets R2 to the FRR parameter area pointer 
 if you code FRR=YES on IEAMSCHD.

 See the doc on IEAMSCHD in Auth Asm Services Guide.

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of michelbutz
 Sent: 15 June 2015 13:34
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

 Wow
 So I prime R2
 And R2 has to be 24 key 0 I guess I can use LSQA shouldn't bump heads 
 with the os Thanks

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

 When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit address of the 
 FRR parameter area.

 You can pass parameters to your FRR from your SRB by using this address.

 Your FRR can establish addressability to whatever you store there by using 
 the SDWAPARM field.

 Note that you will need to be in Key0 to store at this address.

 Rob Scott
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 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
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 Sent: 14 June 2015 19:30
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 Subject: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

 The IEAMSCHD has a FRRADDR parm
 But doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine

 Sent from my iPhone

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IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
I've been receiving timeouts this morning when contacting the two IBM 
orderservers,


https://eccgw02.rochester.ibm.com/
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Is anyone else having a problem? I contacted our network people and 
they're seeing traffic to those IP addresses from the mainframe when I 
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Re: OT STCK question

2015-06-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:44:20 +, J O Skip Robinson wrote:

I should let this go, but Sunday is still Friday in the mind. 

Number agreement is based on subject - predicate. That is, subject (noun, 
pronoun) should be consistent with its associated verb. Whether a pronoun and 
its associated noun in a different clause may vary by dialect or usage. 

A person who uses that construct should know 
that 
they are destined for Bonehead English

person -- uses  (agreement)
they -- are  (agreement per US English)

The fact that 'they' stands in for 'person' is the whole point of this thread. 
You may buy into that correlation or not, but in the example sentence, there 
is still number agreement within each clause. At least in US English.

And, pronouns have traditionally agreed in number with their antecedents.
The only other pronoun that can be either singular or plural that comes
readily to my mind is who.  You provided half the example:

 A person who uses ...

The other half:

Persons who use ...

The number agreement exists here, even outside the same clause.  If they
is newly to assume a singular meaning, a singular verb should agree with it.

The examples you cited later of collectives and indefinites do confuse the
issue, as does the royal (and editorial) we, and the formal you (in French,
Russian, et al.)

(Some of the examples cited are outrageous: Kim helped theirself to another
slice of cake.)

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-15 Thread Charles Mills
But there are no dates or years in the question, only duration. And the 
durations are by implication well under a year.

Charles

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On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:13:31 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:

Leap seconds are irrelevant. Let's say the routine being measured took
86,710 seconds. You would be completely correct in saying it took 1 
day, 5 minutes and 10 seconds even if the run happened to span a 
midnight at which a leap second was added. The TOD clock is ignorant of 
leap seconds. They are solely about keeping the world's civil clocks aligned 
with solar noon.
 
But those civil clocks are used for legal purposes.  Failure to account for a 
leap second might result (possibly; however improbably) in a calculated 
incorrect date, or even an incorrect year.

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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
When The FRR parameter area which R2 points to
Is 24 bit ? Just makes life more difficult 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 Apologies, the FRR=YES was copied from the Auth Asm Services Guide 
 description of the reg contents at SRB entry and refers to the keyword on 
 SCHEDULE.
 
 The appropriate keyword on IEAMSCHD is FRRADDR= with a value that is not 
 NOFRR
 
 As stated before, you do not have to code anything, the system will prime R2 
 for your SRB to use on entry.
 
 Rob Scott
 Principal Software Engineer
 Rocket Software
 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of michelbutz
 Sent: 15 June 2015 15:50
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param
 
 Rob
 
 With all you due respect I looked at the IEAMSCHD macro in Sys1.maclibb
 
 And all I see is FRRADDR= a pointer the FRR routine I don't see FRR= parameter
 
 If I code FRRADDR= address of my FRR routine Am I supposed to prime R2 with 
 the FRR parameter area
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 No.
 
 On entry to your SRB, the *system* sets R2 to the FRR parameter area pointer 
 if you code FRR=YES on IEAMSCHD.
 
 See the doc on IEAMSCHD in Auth Asm Services Guide.
 
 Rob Scott
 Principal Software Engineer
 Rocket Software
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 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com
 
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of michelbutz
 Sent: 15 June 2015 13:34
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param
 
 Wow
 So I prime R2
 And R2 has to be 24 key 0 I guess I can use LSQA shouldn't bump heads
 with the os Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit address of 
 the FRR parameter area.
 
 You can pass parameters to your FRR from your SRB by using this address.
 
 Your FRR can establish addressability to whatever you store there by using 
 the SDWAPARM field.
 
 Note that you will need to be in Key0 to store at this address.
 
 Rob Scott
 Principal Software Engineer
 Rocket Software
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 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com
 
 
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 Sent: 14 June 2015 19:30
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 The IEAMSCHD has a FRRADDR parm
 But doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread David Crayford

On 15/06/2015 9:40 PM, Itschak Mugzach wrote:

why did George used ISPF BATCH if he is not doing any use of the
environment in the Rexx? It is a waist of resources.


IDK. But REXX is a waste of resources when there are better weapons in 
arsenal.



ITschak

ITschak Mugzach
Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security  Risk Assessments Professional

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:33 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:


On 15/06/2015 9:17 PM, Charles Mills wrote:


With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its

sections with COBOL?


Good point. Perhaps not. You could certainly do some processing of some
SMF records with COBOL, or you could write an assembler routine to make SMF
triplet sections readily addressable with COBOL. Or perhaps with native
COBOL -- doesn't COBOL now have some sort of based variable support? IANACP
(I am not a COBOL programmer.)


COBOL can do all the offset based stuff. It used to be terrible at pointer
arithmetic but handle that now without a sweat.

If you have the mappings COBOL would probably be a better choice then a
lot of languages. Especially now it's fast.



Charles

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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or
monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

Charles Mills wrote:

  SMF record formats are all documented (some a lot more thoroughly than

others LOL).


Of course. Just have a good calculator ready... ;-D


  Having somehow queued your records for further processing, you can do

analysis to your heart's content in assembler, COBOL, or your language of
choice.


With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its
sections with COBOL? [1] With Assembler that is easy and I have written

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Re: IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Bohn, Dale
Once again the  IBM Download Server Status Web site:
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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
The address of the FRR parm area is a 24-bit address - (I seem to recall the 
last time I actually looked the address was something like x'0C00' but I am 
not 100% sure).

However you choose to use the 24 bytes that this points to is up to you ;  
there is no reason why you cannot put a 31-bit (or 64-bit) address in the first 
word (or doubleword) in this area that points to your parameter data in your 
SRB working storage.


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Of michelbutz
Sent: 15 June 2015 16:56
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

When The FRR parameter area which R2 points to Is 24 bit ? Just makes life more 
difficult

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

 Apologies, the FRR=YES was copied from the Auth Asm Services Guide 
 description of the reg contents at SRB entry and refers to the keyword on 
 SCHEDULE.

 The appropriate keyword on IEAMSCHD is FRRADDR= with a value that is not 
 NOFRR

 As stated before, you do not have to code anything, the system will prime R2 
 for your SRB to use on entry.

 Rob Scott
 Principal Software Engineer
 Rocket Software
 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of michelbutz
 Sent: 15 June 2015 15:50
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

 Rob

 With all you due respect I looked at the IEAMSCHD macro in
 Sys1.maclibb

 And all I see is FRRADDR= a pointer the FRR routine I don't see FRR=
 parameter

 If I code FRRADDR= address of my FRR routine Am I supposed to prime R2
 with the FRR parameter area

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

 No.

 On entry to your SRB, the *system* sets R2 to the FRR parameter area pointer 
 if you code FRR=YES on IEAMSCHD.

 See the doc on IEAMSCHD in Auth Asm Services Guide.

 Rob Scott
 Principal Software Engineer
 Rocket Software
 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com


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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of michelbutz
 Sent: 15 June 2015 13:34
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

 Wow
 So I prime R2
 And R2 has to be 24 key 0 I guess I can use LSQA shouldn't bump heads
 with the os Thanks

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

 When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit address of 
 the FRR parameter area.

 You can pass parameters to your FRR from your SRB by using this address.

 Your FRR can establish addressability to whatever you store there by using 
 the SDWAPARM field.

 Note that you will need to be in Key0 to store at this address.

 Rob Scott
 Principal Software Engineer
 Rocket Software
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 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com


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 The IEAMSCHD has a FRRADDR parm
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Re: STCK question

2015-06-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:29:12 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:

But there are no dates or years in the question, only duration. And the 
durations are by implication well under a year.
 
I'll grant that I hijacked the topic by introducing the legal consequences
of calendar dates.  But well under a year is irrelevant.  Adding a mere
60 seconds to 2008-12-31 23:59:00 should give a date in 2008, not in
2009.  The interval from 2008-12-31 23:59:59 to 2009-01-01 00:00:01
is three seconds.  But if the program has kept formatted time stamps
from TIME macro, will the difference between CONVTOD of those two
values yield the correct result in 64-bit TOD format?  IBM shirks providing
the necessary documentation.  This should not be left to programmers'
intuition.

-- gil

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Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Barry Merrill
MXG Software has always been able to read VSAM SMF data directly,
and is smart enough to stop at the end of the active data,
it does NOT read all those unused blocks that have not yet been
written to.

Barry Merrill

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Subject: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor 
SYS1.MANX directly?

Hi all

 We always analyse SMF data after we dump SYS1.MANX.  

 Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX 
directly without dump SYS1.MANX? 

Thanks a lot!

Best Regards,

Jason Cai

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Re: STCK question

2015-06-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:13:31 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:

Leap seconds are irrelevant. Let's say the routine being measured took
86,710 seconds. You would be completely correct in saying it took 1 day, 5
minutes and 10 seconds even if the run happened to span a midnight at which
a leap second was added. The TOD clock is ignorant of leap seconds. They are
solely about keeping the world's civil clocks aligned with solar noon.
 
But those civil clocks are used for legal purposes.  Failure to account for
a leap second might result (possibly; however improbably) in a calculated
incorrect date, or even an incorrect year.

All things considered, I believe that UTC was a poor choice for accounting
and other aspects of IT.  (A smoothed) UT1 would hanve been better.  But
redefining UTC to remove leap seconds and run free at the TAI rate but
30-odd seconds behind is the worst idea of all.

-- gil

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Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
'waste' depends on frequency of use, ease of maintenance, skill set(s), AND 
impact to th 4HRA.

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  Original Message  
From: David Crayford
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:46
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Subject: Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor 
SYS1.MANX directly?

On 15/06/2015 9:40 PM, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
 why did George used ISPF BATCH if he is not doing any use of the
 environment in the Rexx? It is a waist of resources.

IDK. But REXX is a waste of resources when there are better weapons in 
arsenal.

 ITschak

 ITschak Mugzach
 Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security  Risk Assessments Professional

 On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:33 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 15/06/2015 9:17 PM, Charles Mills wrote:

 With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its
 sections with COBOL?

 Good point. Perhaps not. You could certainly do some processing of some
 SMF records with COBOL, or you could write an assembler routine to make SMF
 triplet sections readily addressable with COBOL. Or perhaps with native
 COBOL -- doesn't COBOL now have some sort of based variable support? IANACP
 (I am not a COBOL programmer.)

 COBOL can do all the offset based stuff. It used to be terrible at pointer
 arithmetic but handle that now without a sweat.

 If you have the mappings COBOL would probably be a better choice then a
 lot of languages. Especially now it's fast.


 Charles

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 monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

 Charles Mills wrote:

 SMF record formats are all documented (some a lot more thoroughly than
 others LOL).

 Of course. Just have a good calculator ready... ;-D


 Having somehow queued your records for further processing, you can do
 analysis to your heart's content in assembler, COBOL, or your language of
 choice.

 With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its
 sections with COBOL? [1] With Assembler that is easy and I have written

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Re: Wait in SRB mode

2015-06-15 Thread Donald Likens
Thanks... I found the documentation. I should read the whole Authorized 
Services Guide instead of just parts of it (or at least when I am stuck 
reference it!). Sorry I bothered you.

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Re: IBM Orderservers

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Is anyone else having a problem? I contacted our network people and they're 
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Re: IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Jousma, David
Yep.  mine failed this morning too.  Not uncommon for a Monday morning.  I've 
tried to remember to do my downloads on Fridays instead of Mondays.

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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
Rob

With all you due respect I looked at the IEAMSCHD macro in Sys1.maclibb

And all I see is FRRADDR= a pointer the FRR routine I don't see FRR= parameter

If I code FRRADDR= address of my FRR routine 
Am I supposed to prime R2 with the FRR parameter area 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 No.
 
 On entry to your SRB, the *system* sets R2 to the FRR parameter area pointer 
 if you code FRR=YES on IEAMSCHD.
 
 See the doc on IEAMSCHD in Auth Asm Services Guide.
 
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 Wow
 So I prime R2
 And R2 has to be 24 key 0 I guess I can use LSQA shouldn't bump heads with 
 the os Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit address of the 
 FRR parameter area.
 
 You can pass parameters to your FRR from your SRB by using this address.
 
 Your FRR can establish addressability to whatever you store there by using 
 the SDWAPARM field.
 
 Note that you will need to be in Key0 to store at this address.
 
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 The IEAMSCHD has a FRRADDR parm
 But doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine
 
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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
Apologies, the FRR=YES was copied from the Auth Asm Services Guide 
description of the reg contents at SRB entry and refers to the keyword on 
SCHEDULE.

The appropriate keyword on IEAMSCHD is FRRADDR= with a value that is not 
NOFRR

As stated before, you do not have to code anything, the system will prime R2 
for your SRB to use on entry.

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Rob

With all you due respect I looked at the IEAMSCHD macro in Sys1.maclibb

And all I see is FRRADDR= a pointer the FRR routine I don't see FRR= parameter

If I code FRRADDR= address of my FRR routine Am I supposed to prime R2 with the 
FRR parameter area

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

 No.

 On entry to your SRB, the *system* sets R2 to the FRR parameter area pointer 
 if you code FRR=YES on IEAMSCHD.

 See the doc on IEAMSCHD in Auth Asm Services Guide.

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 Wow
 So I prime R2
 And R2 has to be 24 key 0 I guess I can use LSQA shouldn't bump heads
 with the os Thanks

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

 When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit address of the 
 FRR parameter area.

 You can pass parameters to your FRR from your SRB by using this address.

 Your FRR can establish addressability to whatever you store there by using 
 the SDWAPARM field.

 Note that you will need to be in Key0 to store at this address.

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Re: IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv

I tried that server and received an java ssl handshake exception error.

Mark Jacobs


Richards, Robert B. mailto:robert.richa...@opm.gov
June 15, 2015 at 10:49 AM
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I've been receiving timeouts this morning when contacting the two IBM 
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https://eccgw02.rochester.ibm.com/
https://eccgw01.boulder.ibm.com

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Re: RPG for the 360/20

2015-06-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
RPG on the System/360 Model 20 definitely existed. There was Model 20 Card
RPG, as an example -- Bitsavers has a manual available (GC26-3600-7).
Here's the direct link (watch the wrap):

http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/360/model20/GC26-3600-7_360_20_Card_Programming_Support_Report_Program_Generator_Oct70.pdf

I assume IBM also offered RPG for TPS and DPS since CPS was the smallest
operating system available for the Model 20 and could run in as little as
4K of memory. You can even still find Model 20 RPG programming manuals
available for purchase (used) on Amazon and elsewhere, e.g. Aloyse Oberle's
book published by Prentice Hall.

I assume it was also technically possible to run RPG (and FARGO for that
matter) for the IBM 1401 on the System/360 Model 20 in 1401 emulation mode
(Submodel 5 machine).

IBM offered an upward source compatible path into the rest of the
System/360 range and beyond -- and, for a period of time anyway, binary
emulation. RPG for BOS/360, for example, could (according to IBM's
documentation) handle Model 20 RPG source code without modification. There
is still an IBM supported RPG II compiler available for z/OS (IBM Program
Number 5740-RG1). If your goal is to (re)compile some Model 20 RPG source
code, give that (licensed) compiler a try.

As for where you'd obtain any of these compilers (except obviously
5740-RG1), I'm not sure. You could try the roughly five organizations that
have actual Model 20 machines in their collections. They include the Living
Computer Museum in Seattle, the Computer History Museum in Mountain View
(California), and the Deutsches Museum in Munich, as examples. IBM Research
in Boeblingen, Germany, also apparently has a Model 20 on display, and
(allegedly) it's a working model -- though I have no direct knowledge of
that. You could also try asking W. Van Snyder at NASA's JPL who (it seems)
has also been trying to track down these older compilers.


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Re: STCK question

2015-06-15 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg

At 10:49 -0500 on 06/15/2015, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: STCK question:


I'll grant that I hijacked the topic by introducing the legal consequences
of calendar dates.  But well under a year is irrelevant.  Adding a mere
60 seconds to 2008-12-31 23:59:00 should give a date in 2008, not in
2009.


There a leap second at the end of December 31, 2008 and thus the last 
minute was 61 seconds long yielding 2008-12-31 23:59:60.


WARNING - We will encounter another long minute on June 30, 2015 
since there is going to be another leap second then.


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IBM contract Job

2015-06-15 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I don't know what the protocol is nowadays job posting since Darren went 
underground. At the So Cal z Users Group today we learned of a contract job 
with IBM. No idea of terms except that it's considered 'full time', i.e. not 
doable for part time moonlighting. The job is to test TDMF/zDMF, which IBM 
acquired a while back. Beat up the product. Try to break it. Document the 
damage. Best part is that it's work-from-home. Any geographic domicile is OK as 
long as you have reliable interweb.

Requirements.

n  SMPE experience to validate product and maintenance packaging.

n  Assembler experience because test cases have been coded, although some Rexx 
has also been used for the same purpose.

n  DB2. I don't remember why this was listed.

The current guy is retiring and they want to replace him ASAP. Contact (not 
hiring manager):

Richard Pace
rp...@us.ibm.com

.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
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Re: IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Thanks. Yes I tried again a little while ago and got in. Strange that 
both servers were down at the same time.


Mark Jacobs


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June 15, 2015 at 12:33 PM
Both of these sites appear to be responding now.

Bob

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I've been receiving timeouts this morning when contacting the two IBM 
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https://eccgw01.boulder.ibm.com

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COBOL can read SMF was Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Clark Morris
On 15 Jun 2015 03:43:38 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

Charles Mills wrote:

SMF record formats are all documented (some a lot more thoroughly than others 
LOL). 

Of course. Just have a good calculator ready... ;-D


Having somehow queued your records for further processing, you can do 
analysis to your heart's content in assembler, COBOL, or your language of 
choice.

With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its 
sections with COBOL? [1] With Assembler that is easy and I have written 
numerous Assembler programs, but for COBOL, I need to read+copy raw SMF 
records with an Assembler program and then re-read/process those copied 
records with a COBOL program.

I have processed SMF types 14/15, 30, 62 and 64 with COBOL.  I reading
the VBS files you need RECORDING S on the FD.  The major pains are
having to have separate FD (file descriptors) for VB and VBS, having
to be indirect in dealing with bit fields and 1 byte binary and there
being no mechanical way to get the SMF record descriptions.  Actually
COBOL could be made more useful by having a tool that converts DSECTs
to COBOL record descriptions thus opening up the ability to easily
call various IBM routines.

The SMF 30 records (and others) can be parsed using the field-name
(offset : length) construct.  

Clark Morris

How do you handle variable record lengths and varying sections lengths and 
quantities and their offsets with COBOL? Any examples, please?

Now, Can you do that same reading and handling raw SMF records with REXX, 
Perl, PL/I [I believe you can, I faintly remembered seeing some ancient progs 
for SMF handling], etc?

Oh, ICETOOL has already some nice examples, but I also don't see a way to 
handle SMF records like SMF type 30 and all their sections.

TIA.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

[1] - I have written COBOL programs but for fixed record lengths, like SMF 17, 
SMF 18 and such. Those COBOL programs were needed to trap culprits who 
deleted/renamed datasets (and said 'I did not do that!') before RACF was fully 
in place.

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How does BPX1AIO handle SRB mode?

2015-06-15 Thread Donald Likens
I simply can't figure out how BPX1AIO is SRB capable. I need to know because I 
need to do the same process. I’ve observed BPX1AIO wait for 3 minutes for a 
TCP/IP connection to be established before timing out and returning an error. I 
guess it uses Transfer (IEAVXFR) to spin off a thread and pause (IEAVPSE) and 
release (IEAVRLS) to wait but how does it timeout without any timing services 
(STIMER and STIMERM cannot run in SRB mode and SRBTIMER abends when it 
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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Is your concern the fact that the area is in 24 bit storage, or that it is
only 24 bytes in length?  The residency issue is because the storage is
part of the FRR stack, which resides in the fetch protected area of the
PSA.  Because it is in the PSA, it is size constrained.  However, nothing
is stopping you from building a control block and populating it as needed
and storing the address (24 bit, 31 bit or 64 bit) in part of the 24 byte
area.  Just keep in mind that all accesses, both read and write, must be
done while in PSW Key 0 or the access will result in an abend.
==
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 From: michelbutz michealb...@comcast.net
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date: 06/15/2015 10:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] IEAMSCHD no FRR param
 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

 When The FRR parameter area which R2 points to
 Is 24 bit ? Just makes life more difficult

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com
wrote:
 
  Apologies, the FRR=YES was copied from the Auth Asm Services
 Guide description of the reg contents at SRB entry and refers to the
 keyword on SCHEDULE.
 
  The appropriate keyword on IEAMSCHD is FRRADDR= with a value
 that is not NOFRR
 
  As stated before, you do not have to code anything, the system
 will prime R2 for your SRB to use on entry.
 
  Rob Scott
  Principal Software Engineer
  Rocket Software
  77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
  Tel: +1.781.684.2305
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  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 ] On Behalf Of michelbutz
  Sent: 15 June 2015 15:50
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param
 
  Rob
 
  With all you due respect I looked at the IEAMSCHD macro in Sys1.maclibb
 
  And all I see is FRRADDR= a pointer the FRR routine I don't see
 FRR= parameter
 
  If I code FRRADDR= address of my FRR routine Am I supposed to
 prime R2 with the FRR parameter area
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com
wrote:
 
  No.
 
  On entry to your SRB, the *system* sets R2 to the FRR parameter
 area pointer if you code FRR=YES on IEAMSCHD.
 
  See the doc on IEAMSCHD in Auth Asm Services Guide.
 
  Rob Scott
  Principal Software Engineer
  Rocket Software
  77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
  Tel: +1.781.684.2305
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  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On Behalf Of michelbutz
  Sent: 15 June 2015 13:34
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param
 
  Wow
  So I prime R2
  And R2 has to be 24 key 0 I guess I can use LSQA shouldn't bump heads
  with the os Thanks
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com
wrote:
 
  When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit
 address of the FRR parameter area.
 
  You can pass parameters to your FRR from your SRB by using this
address.
 
  Your FRR can establish addressability to whatever you store
 there by using the SDWAPARM field.
 
  Note that you will need to be in Key0 to store at this address.
 
  Rob Scott
  Principal Software Engineer
  Rocket Software
  77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
  Tel: +1.781.684.2305
  Email: rsc...@rs.com
  Web: www.rocketsoftware.com
 
 
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  On Behalf Of michelbutz
  Sent: 14 June 2015 19:30
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: IEAMSCHD no FRR param
 
  The IEAMSCHD has a FRRADDR parm
  But doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
Thank you so much you made it so easy

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 The address of the FRR parm area is a 24-bit address - (I seem to recall the 
 last time I actually looked the address was something like x'0C00' but I 
 am not 100% sure).
 
 However you choose to use the 24 bytes that this points to is up to you ;  
 there is no reason why you cannot put a 31-bit (or 64-bit) address in the 
 first word (or doubleword) in this area that points to your parameter data in 
 your SRB working storage.
 
 
 Rob Scott
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 Email: rsc...@rs.com
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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of michelbutz
 Sent: 15 June 2015 16:56
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param
 
 When The FRR parameter area which R2 points to Is 24 bit ? Just makes life 
 more difficult
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 Apologies, the FRR=YES was copied from the Auth Asm Services Guide 
 description of the reg contents at SRB entry and refers to the keyword on 
 SCHEDULE.
 
 The appropriate keyword on IEAMSCHD is FRRADDR= with a value that is not 
 NOFRR
 
 As stated before, you do not have to code anything, the system will prime R2 
 for your SRB to use on entry.
 
 Rob Scott
 Principal Software Engineer
 Rocket Software
 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of michelbutz
 Sent: 15 June 2015 15:50
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param
 
 Rob
 
 With all you due respect I looked at the IEAMSCHD macro in
 Sys1.maclibb
 
 And all I see is FRRADDR= a pointer the FRR routine I don't see FRR=
 parameter
 
 If I code FRRADDR= address of my FRR routine Am I supposed to prime R2
 with the FRR parameter area
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 No.
 
 On entry to your SRB, the *system* sets R2 to the FRR parameter area 
 pointer if you code FRR=YES on IEAMSCHD.
 
 See the doc on IEAMSCHD in Auth Asm Services Guide.
 
 Rob Scott
 Principal Software Engineer
 Rocket Software
 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of michelbutz
 Sent: 15 June 2015 13:34
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param
 
 Wow
 So I prime R2
 And R2 has to be 24 key 0 I guess I can use LSQA shouldn't bump heads
 with the os Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
 
 When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit address of 
 the FRR parameter area.
 
 You can pass parameters to your FRR from your SRB by using this address.
 
 Your FRR can establish addressability to whatever you store there by using 
 the SDWAPARM field.
 
 Note that you will need to be in Key0 to store at this address.
 
 Rob Scott
 Principal Software Engineer
 Rocket Software
 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
 Tel: +1.781.684.2305
 Email: rsc...@rs.com
 Web: www.rocketsoftware.com
 
 
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 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of michelbutz
 Sent: 14 June 2015 19:30
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: IEAMSCHD no FRR param
 
 The IEAMSCHD has a FRRADDR parm
 But doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Both of these sites appear to be responding now.

Bob

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Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM Orderservers

I tried that server and received an java ssl handshake exception error.

Mark Jacobs

 Richards, Robert B. mailto:robert.richa...@opm.gov June 15, 2015 at 
 10:49 AM Also try:

 deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com


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 I've been receiving timeouts this morning when contacting the two IBM 
 orderservers,

 https://eccgw02.rochester.ibm.com/
 https://eccgw01.boulder.ibm.com

 Is anyone else having a problem? I contacted our network people and 
 they're seeing traffic to those IP addresses from the mainframe when I 
 execute the jobs.
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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:55:38 -0400, michelbutz wrote:

When The FRR parameter area which R2 points to
Is 24 bit ? Just makes life more difficult 

Are you serious? There is *NOTHING* special that you must do 
to reference storage that can be addressed with a 24-bit address.

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Re: How does BPX1AIO handle SRB mode?

2015-06-15 Thread Tony Harminc
On 15 June 2015 at 15:33, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com
wrote:

 You got to build yourself a DIE.


If you just want to wait for a real-time interval while in SRB (or for that
matter task) mode, you can use the very handy (and remarkably, Programming
Interface) service pointed to by ECVTXTSW, and minimally documented in the
ECVT mapping macro. If you want to wait for that time interval while also
waiting for another event (perhaps your cancel ECB), you have some
additional work of your own to do.

If you really want your own DIE code, calling ECVTXTSW and then observing
the trace table may teach you a thing or two about the underlying services
needed. Running the TQE chain in a standalone dump is also interesting (for
best results don't try this in real time...)

Peter Relson kindly pointed this routine out to me a couple of years ago,
and certainly it's a lot easier to use than doing the whole roll-your-own
DIE thing, if rather less flexible.

Tony H.

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Re: How does BPX1AIO handle SRB mode?

2015-06-15 Thread Binyamin Dissen
You got to build yourself a DIE.

On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:04:08 -0500 Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com
wrote:

:I simply can't figure out how BPX1AIO is SRB capable. I need to know because 
I need to do the same process. I’ve observed BPX1AIO wait for 3 minutes for a 
TCP/IP connection to be established before timing out and returning an error. I 
guess it uses Transfer (IEAVXFR) to spin off a thread and pause (IEAVPSE) and 
release (IEAVRLS) to wait but how does it timeout without any timing services 
(STIMER and STIMERM cannot run in SRB mode and SRBTIMER abends when it 
completes). 
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Re: How does BPX1AIO handle SRB mode?

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
Tony - that is really cool.

Nice one!

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Sent: 15 June 2015 21:16
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: How does BPX1AIO handle SRB mode?

On 15 June 2015 at 15:33, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com
wrote:

 You got to build yourself a DIE.


If you just want to wait for a real-time interval while in SRB (or for that 
matter task) mode, you can use the very handy (and remarkably, Programming
Interface) service pointed to by ECVTXTSW, and minimally documented in the ECVT 
mapping macro. If you want to wait for that time interval while also waiting 
for another event (perhaps your cancel ECB), you have some additional work of 
your own to do.

If you really want your own DIE code, calling ECVTXTSW and then observing the 
trace table may teach you a thing or two about the underlying services needed. 
Running the TQE chain in a standalone dump is also interesting (for best 
results don't try this in real time...)

Peter Relson kindly pointed this routine out to me a couple of years ago, and 
certainly it's a lot easier to use than doing the whole roll-your-own DIE 
thing, if rather less flexible.

Tony H.

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RPG for the 360/20

2015-06-15 Thread glen herrmannsfeldt
Just wondering, does anyone know where a copy of the RPG compiler
for the 360/20 is?  Presumably on cards, but maybe some other form.

Other 360/20 software could also be useful, but mostly if it
doesn't need disk or tape.

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Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit address of the 
FRR parameter area.

You can pass parameters to your FRR from your SRB by using this address.

Your FRR can establish addressability to whatever you store there by using the 
SDWAPARM field.

Note that you will need to be in Key0 to store at this address.

Rob Scott
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The IEAMSCHD has a FRRADDR parm
But doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine

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