Re: Catalog for OMVS datasets
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:50:26 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:59:18 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: Do you have a /etc/ualiastable defined? I need that on two LPARs, but all that is in there is NAME1 name1 NAME2 name2 NAME3 name3 ... We haven't. Does LDAP or some connectivity product make that a requirement for you? So if I did /cd/NAME1 it would mount /u/name1 Do you mean cd ~NAME1? But I thought tilde expansion is case-insensitive: Sorry, I meant if I issued cd /u/NAME1 it will automount the FS associated with /u/name1 due to the contents of /etc/ualiastable. Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS ITIL v3 Foundation Certified mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://search390.techtarget.com/ateExperts/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: S0C4 running Disasembler ASMDASM
On 25 August 2015 at 12:49, michelbutz michealb...@comcast.net wrote: There are two loadlibs with ASMDASM apparently The one with HLA.SA Works Almost certainly the one that doesn't work is the DLIB, which will contain an incomplete copy of ASMDASM. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Catalog entry not visible
Hi I have built a new z/OS image where one of our product fails with a IKJ message saying that the dataset is not found. I can still see the usercat where the dataset is catalogued is connected to the master catalog of the new z/OS image The listcat with entry of those alias are defined to the MCAT of xOS image Not sure why it is not visible though I have put the datasets in the CATALOG volume of the new z/OS images. Could someone please shed some light on it Nathan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Ideas for hash of a sequential data set
W dniu 2015-08-20 o 18:55, Kirk Wolf pisze: I'm trying to come up with an efficient way to see if a non-VSAM data set has been changed. [...] Thoughts? My thoughts: 1. Don't allow unauthorized persons to change dataset. Use RACF. 2. To check who and when changed the dataset ...use RACF. AUDIT(ALL(READ)). 3. If you cannot rely on RACF SMF then you also cannot rely on hash information - it can be modified as well. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2015 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.840.228 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: V constants
As noted before, this is the Z390 assembler. As you can see from the assembler listing, and verify from the OBJ dump, X'0004' is assembled in the object program for all constants. I am a little surprised by the SIGN=+ in the RLD listing. The OS/360 and successor assemblers are the only ones that I know of that allow for relocation factors of -1 or 2, and I am not sure that the assembler is doing that right. (And V constants probably shouldn't do it, either.) 10:44:00 extrn MZ390 START USING z390 V1.5.06 ON J2SE 1.8.0_60 08/26/15 AZ390I Copyright 2011 Automated Software Tools Corporation AZ390I z390 is licensed under GNU General Public License AZ390I program = C:\Users\c-glenh\z390\extrn AZ390I options = sysmac(C:\PROGRA~2\AUTOMA~1\z390\mac+.) syscpy(C:\PROGRA~2\AUTOMA~1\z390\mac+.) External Symbol Definitions ESD=0001 LOC= LEN=0018 TYPE=CST NAME=XXX ESD=0002 LOC= LEN= TYPE=EXT NAME=YYY ESD=0003 LOC= LEN= TYPE=EXT NAME=ZZZ Assembler Listing 00(1/1)1 * test V constants 00(1/2)2 XXX CSECT 00(1/3)3 EXTRN YYY 00 0004 (1/4)4 DC V(ZZZ+4) 04 0004 (1/5)5 DC A(YYY+4) 08 0004 (1/6)6 DC V(-ZZZ+4) 0C 0004 (1/7)7 DC A(-YYY+4) 10 0004 (1/8)8 DC V(ZZZ+ZZZ+4) 14 0004 (1/9)9 DC A(YYY+YYY+4) 18 (1/10)10 END Relocation Definitions ESD=0001 LOC= LEN=4 SIGN=+ XESD=0003 ESD=0001 LOC=0004 LEN=4 SIGN=+ XESD=0002 ESD=0001 LOC=0008 LEN=4 SIGN=+ XESD=0003 ESD=0001 LOC=000C LEN=4 SIGN=+ XESD=0002 ESD=0001 LOC=0010 LEN=4 SIGN=+ XESD=0003 ESD=0001 LOC=0010 LEN=4 SIGN=+ XESD=0003 ESD=0001 LOC=0014 LEN=4 SIGN=+ XESD=0002 ESD=0001 LOC=0014 LEN=4 SIGN=+ XESD=0002 Symbol Table Listing SYM=XXX LOC= LEN=0018 ESD=0001 TYPE=CST XREF=2 SYM=YYY LOC= LEN= ESD=0002 TYPE=EXT XREF= SYM=ZZZ LOC= LEN= ESD=0003 TYPE=EXT XREF=4 6 8 Literal Table Listing AZ390I total mnote warnings = 0 AZ390I total mnote errors = 0 AZ390I max mnote level= 0 AZ390I total mz390 errors = 0 AZ390I total az390 errors = 0 10:44:02 extrn MZ390 ENDED RC= 0 SEC= 0 MEM(MB)= 32 IO=66 And hex dump of the OBJ file: 000 02 c5 e2 c4 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 10 40 40 00 01 020 e7 e7 e7 40 40 40 40 40 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 18 040 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 120 02 c5 e2 c4 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 0d 40 40 00 02 140 e8 e8 e8 40 40 40 40 40 02 40 40 40 00 40 40 40 160 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 240 02 c5 e2 c4 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 0d 40 40 00 03 260 e9 e9 e9 40 40 40 40 40 02 40 40 40 00 40 40 40 300 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 360 02 e3 e7 e3 40 00 00 00 40 40 00 10 40 40 00 01 400 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 04 420 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 500 02 e3 e7 e3 40 00 00 10 40 40 00 08 40 40 00 01 520 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 04 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 540 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 620 02 d9 d3 c4 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 08 40 40 40 40 640 00 03 00 01 0c 00 00 00 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 660 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 740 02 d9 d3 c4 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 08 40 40 40 40 760 00 02 00 01 0c 00 00 04 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 0001000 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 0001060 02 d9 d3 c4 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 08 40 40 40 40 0001100 00 03 00 01 0c 00 00 08 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 0001120 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 0001200 02 d9 d3 c4 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 08 40 40 40 40 0001220 00 02 00 01 0c 00 00 0c 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 0001240 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 0001320 02 d9 d3 c4 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 08 40 40 40 40 0001340 00 03 00 01 0c 00 00 10 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 0001360 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 0001440 02 d9 d3 c4 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 08 40 40 40 40 0001460 00 03 00 01 0c 00 00 10 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 0001500 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 0001560 02 d9 d3 c4 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 08 40 40 40 40 0001600 00 02 00 01 0c 00 00 14 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 0001620 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 0001700 02 d9 d3 c4 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 08 40 40 40 40 0001720 00 02 00 01 0c 00 00 14 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 0001740 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 0002020 02 c5 d5 c4 40 00 00 00 40 40 40 40 40 40 00 00 0002040 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 * 0002140 -Original Message-
Re: SMF Type 30
Also SMF30EXN is sometimes usefully filled in with a Unix program name. But not often, IME. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 26/08/2015 19:11 Subject:Re: SMF Type 30 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Steely, Mark wrote: I need to do some research to determine when a certain program was executed. It would be nice to also have the job name and / or userid that executed the program. I think SMF type 30 would provide this information. Do anyone have a program that provides this type of information. I don’t have any SMF reporting products. We are z/OS v1r13. Others gave excellent replies including DAF and other freebies. But, if your program was called by another program, you're probably out of luck. SMF type 30 has these useful fields amongst a lot of other fields: SMF30JBN (Job name) SMF30PGM (Program name) SMF30STM (Step name) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog entry not visible
Can you do 3.4 on the dataset? If so, when you press PF11 - does it show any details? Is there more than one LPAR involved? Is the Alias and ucat connected if there is more than one MCAT? Can you present the IKJ message (complete text)? There a some reasons a dataset is not found, The JCL is running on a system where the ALIAS does not exist The Data is a catalog entry only and not a physical file. The dataset was cataloged in a MCAT not a UCAT and the MCAT is different from where the dataset was cataloged to where the job ran. Lizette -Original Message- From: Nathan Astle tcpipat...@gmail.com Sent: Aug 26, 2015 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Catalog entry not visible Hi I have built a new z/OS image where one of our product fails with a IKJ message saying that the dataset is not found. I can still see the usercat where the dataset is catalogued is connected to the master catalog of the new z/OS image The listcat with entry of those alias are defined to the MCAT of xOS image Not sure why it is not visible though I have put the datasets in the CATALOG volume of the new z/OS images. Could someone please shed some light on it Nathan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMF Type 30
Steely, Mark wrote: I need to do some research to determine when a certain program was executed. It would be nice to also have the job name and / or userid that executed the program. I think SMF type 30 would provide this information. Do anyone have a program that provides this type of information. I don’t have any SMF reporting products. We are z/OS v1r13. Others gave excellent replies including DAF and other freebies. But, if your program was called by another program, you're probably out of luck. SMF type 30 has these useful fields amongst a lot of other fields: SMF30JBN (Job name) SMF30PGM (Program name) SMF30STM (Step name) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: vary dev,console with an IEF238D outstanding.
While there is an IEF238D outstanding, in our case because some DD specified a nonexistent volser, vary dev,console gives us IEE799D. quote IEE799D VARY CONSOLE DELAYED - REPLY RETRY OR CANCEL. A VARY CONSOLE command requested that a console be placed online or offline. The system could not process the command due to other processing in the system such as: - Another VARY CONSOLE command - Device allocation in progress /quote I'd expect that. As a general rule, when IEF238D is outstanding, it holds various resources. SYSIEFSD Q4 shared is one of those resources, but there are several others. Device Allocation requires a consistent picture of the online devices, serialized by Q4. There are a lot of processes that can be held up if an IEF238D is outstanding. Over the years, we've tweaked some things to help with Q4 contention, but the general rules for serializing devices with Q4 I describe here have always been true. For most devices, you can VARY them online while IEF238D is outstanding, but not offline. (We only need Q4 shared to make a device eligible for allocation, but to take a device away from allocation, we need Q4 exclusive.) Offline devices will go into a pending offline state until Q4 becomes available. For console devices (I mean those in CONSOLxx, not just 3270's in general) are special. Moving them into console state requires Q4 exclusive, because you're taking the device away from allocation (it's no longer allocatable.) The console state is separate from online or offline. Sorry, that serialization is really necessary. -Scott Ballentine IBM z/OS Device Allocation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone restore
On 2015-08-26, at 09:59, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2015-08-26 o 15:56, John Eells pisze: To avoid any confusion, I should have prefaced this with, Except when using the Customized Offerings Driver (COD), To complement information about COD: COD can be IPLed from DVD or from ftp server (just like z/VM installator), *BUT* data to be restored have to be on DVD inserted in HMC (not like z/VM). Ummm... What utility can one use to backup to that DVD to restore from? Anything better than backup to DASD; FTP (binary, I guess) to desktop; burn the DVD on the desktop system? Standalone backup? Ugh! -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone restore
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: Ummm... What utility can one use to backup to that DVD to restore from? Anything better than backup to DASD; FTP (binary, I guess) to desktop; burn the DVD on the desktop system? Standalone backup? Ugh! snip Outside the narrowly specific scope of the COD, no IBM product I know of supports z/OS backups to or restores from DVD. Anyone who wants this function is welcome to open an RFE, of course. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone restore
W dniu 2015-08-26 o 18:14, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On 2015-08-26, at 09:59, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2015-08-26 o 15:56, John Eells pisze: To avoid any confusion, I should have prefaced this with, Except when using the Customized Offerings Driver (COD), To complement information about COD: COD can be IPLed from DVD or from ftp server (just like z/VM installator), *BUT* data to be restored have to be on DVD inserted in HMC (not like z/VM). Ummm... What utility can one use to backup to that DVD to restore from? Anything better than backup to DASD; FTP (binary, I guess) to desktop; burn the DVD on the desktop system? Standalone backup? Ugh! As John answered, none. However it could be nice and useful to have one. Just like (almost like) you described: Dump to unix file. The file can be then ftp'ed to PC, or just written on NFS-mounted PC drive directly, maybe on USB stick. Restore? IPL from USB stick, read data from same USB stick. Imagine z/OS installation process: put the stick two clicks and restore whole volumes. Or DR drill. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzib w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2015 r. kapita zakadowy mBanku S.A. (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.840.228 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone restore
It seems like it would depend on several factors: What product do you use to originally store the data. In the past I have used CA-ASM2, FDR, and HSM. The documentation for each discussed a stand-alone procedure. What does the documentation for the product you use say? Where did the product physically store the data? Is that media accessible when you are running in a stand-alone mode? What type of restore do you envision? Are we talking about replacing the entire contents of a disk from a full volume dump or bringing back a critical dataset that was deleted or corrupted? In my day physical tape drives were ubiquitous. Now with the ability to IPL from the HMC, loading the stand-alone program is apparently not an issue. But you still have to access the data. How would the stand-alone program know where the data is located? Since your system is down, do you have manual records to tell it? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lopez, Sharon Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Stand-alone restore How does one do a stand-alone restore with no tape drives attached? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone restore
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: On 2015-08-26, at 09:59, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2015-08-26 o 15:56, John Eells pisze: To avoid any confusion, I should have prefaced this with, Except when using the Customized Offerings Driver (COD), To complement information about COD: COD can be IPLed from DVD or from ftp server (just like z/VM installator), *BUT* data to be restored have to be on DVD inserted in HMC (not like z/VM). Ummm... What utility can one use to backup to that DVD to restore from? Anything better than backup to DASD; FTP (binary, I guess) to desktop; burn the DVD on the desktop system? Standalone backup? Ugh! From a personal perspective, what I think would be nice is a product which can create bootable ISO9660 image, perhaps with a UDF inside. This DVD image would then be burned to a physical DVD. And, lastly, the DVD should be bootable from the HMC to run a stand-alone program which can then read that same DVD, still in the HMC's DVD, communicate with the user via the HMC (system messages?), and restore the disk image to a z series disk drive. If you go with the deluxe model, the stand-alone program would be CUI or GUI to present the user with a disk selection list to allow the user to select the disk onto which to restore from a panel of possibilities. The disk backup / DVD image creating program should also be smart. That is, I would like it to be able to not only write the bootable ISO to a tape, or sequential disk data set, but also to be able to send the data stream to an ftp server or even an HTTPD server so that the ISO image can be stored on a PC for burning later by the user. What would be really neat would be an IP attached DVD burner with an embedded ftp server and an autoloader. Ah, the joys of the unobtainable dream. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone restore
zzsa can be burned to CD-ROM and IPLed from HMC DVD drive. http://www.cbttape.org/~jjaeger/zzsa.html On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:32 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: On 2015-08-26, at 09:59, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2015-08-26 o 15:56, John Eells pisze: To avoid any confusion, I should have prefaced this with, Except when using the Customized Offerings Driver (COD), To complement information about COD: COD can be IPLed from DVD or from ftp server (just like z/VM installator), *BUT* data to be restored have to be on DVD inserted in HMC (not like z/VM). Ummm... What utility can one use to backup to that DVD to restore from? Anything better than backup to DASD; FTP (binary, I guess) to desktop; burn the DVD on the desktop system? Standalone backup? Ugh! From a personal perspective, what I think would be nice is a product which can create bootable ISO9660 image, perhaps with a UDF inside. This DVD image would then be burned to a physical DVD. And, lastly, the DVD should be bootable from the HMC to run a stand-alone program which can then read that same DVD, still in the HMC's DVD, communicate with the user via the HMC (system messages?), and restore the disk image to a z series disk drive. If you go with the deluxe model, the stand-alone program would be CUI or GUI to present the user with a disk selection list to allow the user to select the disk onto which to restore from a panel of possibilities. The disk backup / DVD image creating program should also be smart. That is, I would like it to be able to not only write the bootable ISO to a tape, or sequential disk data set, but also to be able to send the data stream to an ftp server or even an HTTPD server so that the ISO image can be stored on a PC for burning later by the user. What would be really neat would be an IP attached DVD burner with an embedded ftp server and an autoloader. Ah, the joys of the unobtainable dream. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Ideas for hash of a sequential data set
On 2015-08-26 10:20, R.S. wrote: My thoughts: 1. Don't allow unauthorized persons to change dataset. Use RACF. 2. To check who and when changed the dataset ...use RACF. AUDIT(ALL(READ)). 3. If you cannot rely on RACF SMF then you also cannot rely on hash information - it can be modified as well. Mostly. Suppose the data set has been allocated, opened for update, read, closed, and freed but never written to, or even overwritten with identical content. Kirk might want to consider this unchanged. Can this be discerned from SMF data? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog entry not visible
Is IKJ tso ? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: Can you do 3.4 on the dataset? If so, when you press PF11 - does it show any details? Is there more than one LPAR involved? Is the Alias and ucat connected if there is more than one MCAT? Can you present the IKJ message (complete text)? There a some reasons a dataset is not found, The JCL is running on a system where the ALIAS does not exist The Data is a catalog entry only and not a physical file. The dataset was cataloged in a MCAT not a UCAT and the MCAT is different from where the dataset was cataloged to where the job ran. Lizette -Original Message- From: Nathan Astle tcpipat...@gmail.com Sent: Aug 26, 2015 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Catalog entry not visible Hi I have built a new z/OS image where one of our product fails with a IKJ message saying that the dataset is not found. I can still see the usercat where the dataset is catalogued is connected to the master catalog of the new z/OS image The listcat with entry of those alias are defined to the MCAT of xOS image Not sure why it is not visible though I have put the datasets in the CATALOG volume of the new z/OS images. Could someone please shed some light on it Nathan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog entry not visible
Yes it is. On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, michelbutz michealb...@comcast.net wrote: Is IKJ tso ? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com javascript:; wrote: Can you do 3.4 on the dataset? If so, when you press PF11 - does it show any details? Is there more than one LPAR involved? Is the Alias and ucat connected if there is more than one MCAT? Can you present the IKJ message (complete text)? There a some reasons a dataset is not found, The JCL is running on a system where the ALIAS does not exist The Data is a catalog entry only and not a physical file. The dataset was cataloged in a MCAT not a UCAT and the MCAT is different from where the dataset was cataloged to where the job ran. Lizette -Original Message- From: Nathan Astle tcpipat...@gmail.com javascript:; Sent: Aug 26, 2015 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:; Subject: Catalog entry not visible Hi I have built a new z/OS image where one of our product fails with a IKJ message saying that the dataset is not found. I can still see the usercat where the dataset is catalogued is connected to the master catalog of the new z/OS image The listcat with entry of those alias are defined to the MCAT of xOS image Not sure why it is not visible though I have put the datasets in the CATALOG volume of the new z/OS images. Could someone please shed some light on it Nathan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu javascript:; with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu javascript:; with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone restore
On 2015-08-26 10:32, R.S. wrote: As John answered, none. However it could be nice and useful to have one. Just like (almost like) you described: Dump to unix file. The file can be then ftp'ed to PC, or just written on NFS-mounted PC drive directly, maybe on USB stick. Restore? IPL from USB stick, read data from same USB stick. Imagine z/OS installation process: put the stick two clicks and restore whole volumes. Or DR drill. Almost like a desktop system? Heck; IBM figures that anyone who can afford a z can afford the resources to do it the hard way. USB is an excellent idea. Nowadays USB media are available with greater capacity and (I think) higher transfer rate than DVD. I've installed Linux from each of CD, USB Flash, and .iso. Hmmm. Doesn't the HMC run Linux? I understand Linux can mount .iso (driver needed?) Surely the fastest option, once it's staged. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog for OMVS datasets
On 2015-08-26 13:41, Mark Zelden wrote: Do you mean cd ~NAME1? But I thought tilde expansion is case-insensitive: Sorry, I meant if I issued cd /u/NAME1 it will automount the FS associated with /u/name1 due to the contents of /etc/ualiastable. I doubt that the ualiastable is consulted for that operation. I suspect (but haven't the authority to test) that if the map contains specific entries for both /u/name1 and /u/NAME1 cd to either will mount that exact path name. As for cd ~Name1 (orthography intended), I believe that shell, which substitutes for tilde, calls getuid(), which treats its argument as case-insensitive (I need to test this) and returns the UID for Name1 (same as name1 or NAME1), even in the absence of ualiastable. Then getpwuid() returns the home directory for that UID as-is in the RACF OMVS segment (what if two TSO IDs have the same UID? Don't do that!) Is the ualiastable case sensitive? Can it contain separate entries for NAME1, mapping to LARRY; Name1, mapping to MOE; and name1, mapping to CURLY? A real UNIX system wouldn't deal in this case-insensitivity mickeymouse. If my TSO ID is GIL, that should be my UNIX ID. The flexibility of being able to log in as GIL, Gil, or gil benefits me little or nothing. On a Linux system: 502 $ echo ~paulgilm /home/paulgilm# resolved 503 $ echo ~PAULGILM ~PAULGILM # unresolved 504 $ echo ~PaulGilm ~PaulGilm # unresolved ... I can live with that. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: vary dev,console with an IEF238D outstanding.
Cannaerts, Jan wrote: So I just tested this again to make sure I'm not spouting nonsense. You're not spouting nonsese. Since you could repeat it, I believe IBM will accept a nice RFE for that. - I try to vary a 3390 device ONLINE that was previously OFFLINE. This works without any problems and I can access the associated volume immediately. - I try to vary the same 3390 device OFFLINE, and I am met with; IEF524I dev, VOLUME xx PENDING OFFLINE. Hmmm. Interesting. ONLINE work this way. OFFLINE that other way. ... because I can still vary other 3390 devices online, but not 3270 devices to console. Hmmm, I wondering about other device types like network devices. What happens to them in this situation? Like I said, this doesn't break the OS, but it's interesting behavior nontheless. I don't think you're missing something, but I believe you discovered a hidden [ and valuable ;-) ] gem deep inside z/OS... If z/OS was not OCO, I believe some old-timers would have a fix ready for you. ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: vary dev,console with an IEF238D outstanding.
- I try to vary a 3390 device ONLINE that was previously OFFLINE. This works without any problems and I can access the associated volume immediately. That means that the SYSIEFSD ENQ had a minor of VARYDEV, right? You may want to search for old apars with keywords sysiefsd, q4 and varydev. - I try to vary the same 3390 device OFFLINE, and I am met with; IEF524I dev, VOLUME xx PENDING OFFLINE. (I reckon that the cause of this could lie somewhere else altogether). D GRS,RES=(SYSIEFSD,*) does not list my user as requesting/owning any ENQ, so I guess it is some other resource that is needed. I would consider this typical z/OS behaviour - as long as *anything* is allocated to a UCB, that UCB will not go offline. Instead of checking for an ENQ, you should have checked the actual UCB - it probably still had a count of allocated jobs/asids larger than zero. Also, IIRC, setting a UCB offline (or online, for that matter) just flips the bit in the UCB control block - it does not really mean that you can access the volume (after a V online). I haven't tested this recently, but I seem to remember it is possible to vary online a device that has no paths. So I'm not sure if I can follow you completely, Skip and Don, because I can still vary other 3390 devices online, but not 3270 devices to console. From another perspective it's only normal that I can vary 3390s online, because that's exactly what needs to happen to make our (erroneous) job continue processing. But that shouldn't necessarily break the varying of consoles. Unless I'm completely missing something, which is absolutely possible since I don't (yet?) have any knowledge of the internals. Like I said, this doesn't break the OS, but it's interesting behavior nontheless. Again a guess on my part: I believe the SYSIEFSD ENQ is needed exclusively because to vary a device to be a console, the UCB needs to get pinned. My (1.13) console is still pinned, so console restructure probably hasn't changed that part. You check this by going into IPCS browse, selecting 'active' as the 'dump' source and then issuing 'ip listu ' with the ucb number. Field UCBSTAT has bit UCBALOC (x'80'), and that tells the system if anything is allocated to that UCB. UCBASID would show the asid, according to the UCBALOC description (For my console it shows x'', though). And the listu formatter tells you if the UCB is pinned in clear text. Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone restore
W dniu 2015-08-26 o 14:26, Lopez, Sharon pisze: How does one do a stand-alone restore with no tape drives attached? Thank you. Restore from ... ? It is possible to restore COD (Customized Offerng Driver) from DVD. Note: SA restore consist of two issues: 1. IPL some standalone utility. 2. Read data from some media (tape, DVD in HMC) and place the data on DASD. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzib w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2015 r. kapita zakadowy mBanku S.A. (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.840.228 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: V constants
Glen Hermannsfeldt wrote: I assembled: * test V constants EXTRN XXX XXX DC V(XXX+4) END with Z390. It assembled the 4 into the constant without any error or warning message. Same with the EXTRN removed, or replaced by an ENTRY statement. Can you please post the result of XREF and LIST? It would be interesting to see the resultant assembly and their offsets. A different question, is what does the linker do in this case? For A constants, the linker adds the value assembled into the constant (the offset). Where? I'm not sure what offset in what sections are you referring? I would like to compare that with Peter Relson's reply. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: V constants
I assembled: * test V constants EXTRN XXX XXX DC V(XXX+4) END By adding EXTRN the test has been corrupted. Once EXTRN is added, the rules for V apparently match the rules for A. But without EXTRN, DC V(XXX+4) is rejected. I doubt there's any case where you'd have a functional need to do a V-Con into your own csect. An A-con without EXTRN is far preferable. For A constants, the linker adds the value assembled into the constant (the offset). Actually, no it doesn't, to my thinking. The linker places the constant into the word and identifies that that word is to be relocated for the particular external reference. It is the loader that does the add. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Stand-alone restore
How does one do a stand-alone restore with no tape drives attached? Thank you. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone restore
Hi Sharon, A specially formatted version of SAR can be IPLed from an FTP site or removable media using a special load function on the HMC (Hardware Management Console) of your system. Note that IPLing from FTP requires that the SE (the Support Element inside your processor that controls its operation) to connected to the Internet and must be able to contact the FTP site without interference from a firewall. Also, all INNOVATION documentation DVDs contain an IPLable copy of SAR in the root directory. The INNOVATION FTP site also contains the current SAR. Here is a link to some IPL info available on our FTP site: http://idp1.fdrinnovation.com/webi/navftp.html#_IPL_SAR_from_INNOVATIONs_FTP_Site_or_Removable_Media jb...@fdrinnovation.com Joseph Butz Technical Support On 8/26/2015 8:26 AM, Lopez, Sharon wrote: How does one do a stand-alone restore with no tape drives attached? Thank you. Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: vary dev,console with an IEF238D outstanding.
So I just tested this again to make sure I'm not spouting nonsense. Here are
the steps that I took to reproduce the problem;
- I start an IEFBR14 job that allocates an arbitrary non-existent dataset with
DISP=MOD, which specifies VOL=SER=NOVOL. NOVOL does not exist on our system.
- Because the volume does not exist, IEF238D is issued.
- D GRS,RES=(SYSIEFSD,*) gives me;
SYSNAMEJOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHRSTATUS
0178 008FF260 SHARE OWN
The jobname is the job that is holding the purposely misbuilt DD.
- I try to V dev,CONSOLE. The device is actually a valid console defined in
CONSOLxx. It functions properly as long as I'm able to vary it. A IEE799D (VARY
CONSOLE DELAYED - REPLY RETRY OR CANCEL) message is issued. One of our OPS
rules automatically and immediately replies CANCEL to this message. If I remove
the OPS rule, respond with RETRY, and am fast enough with displaying GRS
information (SYSIEFSD,*), I can see my user A/S queueing itself for an
exclusive ENQ.
- I try to vary a 3390 device ONLINE that was previously OFFLINE. This works
without any problems and I can access the associated volume immediately.
- I try to vary the same 3390 device OFFLINE, and I am met with; IEF524I dev,
VOLUME xx PENDING OFFLINE. (I reckon that the cause of this could lie
somewhere else altogether). D GRS,RES=(SYSIEFSD,*) does not list my user as
requesting/owning any ENQ, so I guess it is some other resource that is needed.
- If I cancel the job that issued the IEF238D because the volume it needs does
not exist, the 3390 volume from the previous step that is now pending offline
is actually brought offline and is no longer accessible. I didn't try replying
a RETRY to the IEE799D after cancelling the job, because OPS does it for us as
soon as it's issued (could have turned that rule off again). But varying the
device to console after the test-job was cancelled does properly vary the
device to console, making it function and behave as it should on the visible
end.
So I'm not sure if I can follow you completely, Skip and Don, because I can
still vary other 3390 devices online, but not 3270 devices to console. From
another perspective it's only normal that I can vary 3390s online, because
that's exactly what needs to happen to make our (erroneous) job continue
processing. But that shouldn't necessarily break the varying of consoles.
Unless I'm completely missing something, which is absolutely possible since I
don't (yet?) have any knowledge of the internals.
Like I said, this doesn't break the OS, but it's interesting behavior
nontheless.
_Jan
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Of Don Williams
Sent: dinsdag 25 augustus 2015 7:45
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: vary dev,console with an IEF238D outstanding.
Sadly, as previously stated, MVS has always worked this way. During
allocation recovery, no new allocations can be processed. I agree that a
RFE would be nice. Perhaps allocation recovery could be by device class.
That way a DASD or tape allocation recovery would not block a console
allocation.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM J O Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
wrote:
I believe that MVS has always worked this way. With a mount pending
('reply device name or cancel'), allocation holds up all other mounts ('v
xxx,online') until the uncertainty is resolved. The reason as I understand
it is that multiple mounts against the same device could cause an integrity
problem. The fact that one device is DASD and the other a console might be
justification for a bit more intelligence in allocation.
The real culprit in OP's case the outstanding mount for a non-existent
device. In our shop, MIA (CA) manages all tape so that IEF238D is never
issued for tape. Hence we have an automated reply of CANCEL in the event of
a finger check in JCL.
BTW IEE799D for console is handled by Auto-Reply (AUTOR00) this way:
Msgid(IEE799D)Delay(30S) Reply(CANCEL)
That is, if the message remains outstanding for 30 seconds, Auto-Reply
cancels the request.
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Re: SMF Type 30
Right. It is a shortcoming IMHO. There is AFAIK no record anywhere of every program executed -- only the names of jobstep programs. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 11:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMF Type 30 Steely, Mark wrote: I need to do some research to determine when a certain program was executed. It would be nice to also have the job name and / or userid that executed the program. I think SMF type 30 would provide this information. Do anyone have a program that provides this type of information. I don’t have any SMF reporting products. We are z/OS v1r13. Others gave excellent replies including DAF and other freebies. But, if your program was called by another program, you're probably out of luck. SMF type 30 has these useful fields amongst a lot of other fields: SMF30JBN (Job name) SMF30PGM (Program name) SMF30STM (Step name) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone restore
sharon.lo...@nc.gov (Lopez, Sharon) wrote: How does one do a stand-alone restore with no tape drives attached? snip You need to have a tape drive or something that looks like a tape drive (e.g., a VTS) to use DFSMSdss Standalone Restore. I don't know what FDR supports or whether that's pertinent for you, but perhaps someone from Innovation will comment. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone restore
ee...@us.ibm.com (John Eells) wrote: sharon.lo...@nc.gov (Lopez, Sharon) wrote: How does one do a stand-alone restore with no tape drives attached? snip You need to have a tape drive or something that looks like a tape drive (e.g., a VTS) to use DFSMSdss Standalone Restore. I don't know what FDR supports or whether that's pertinent for you, but perhaps someone from Innovation will comment. To avoid any confusion, I should have prefaced this with, Except when using the Customized Offerings Driver (COD), -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMF Type 30
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Right. It is a shortcoming IMHO. There is AFAIK no record anywhere of every program executed -- only the names of jobstep programs. Charles If this data is __CRITICALLY NEEDED__, then it is obtainable by using GTF to trace all of the appropriate SVCs (LOAD, LINK, XCTL, ATTACH, etc) in all address spaces. This records a binary file which can be processed using IPCS to get a report. This will likely have a significant CPU impact and will likely require a very large trace data set. -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog for OMVS datasets
Thank you, everyone for all the feedback on this issue. David G. Schlecht | Information Technology Professional State of Nevada | Department of Administration | Enterprise IT Services T:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@admin.nv.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalog for OMVS datasets I prefix dsn's with SYS1.OMVS. Where the name is required to be unique, I append a LLQ. DFDSS logical copy with RENUNC works great to keep multiple copies if required. You might want to look up Chapter 5. Managing the z/OS UNIX File System in z/OS UNIX System Services Planning (GA32-0884 for z/OS 2.1) HTH, snip How do you catalog your OMVS datasets? My predecessor created a catalog in which he put a few OMVS dataset definitions. However, it never really got used. We only have a few dozen OMVS file systems so it doesn't seem to make sense to have a catalog just for them. What is common practice? What do you do? Do you have a separate catalog for your OMVS datasets? If so, what's your reasoning? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog entry not visible
Hi Even when I try to put the fully qualified in the PROC dd statement it fails with device allocation error. Other datasets in the same volume are being read. On Thursday 27 August 2015, Nathan Astle tcpipat...@gmail.com wrote: Hi yes because we have another set of two level aliases which are being read. On Thursday 27 August 2015, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','retired-mainfra...@q.com'); wrote: Is the system in question configured for two-level aliases? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Nathan Astle Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalog entry not visible Hi I can view the failing dataset using 3.4 from the driving system. The failing dataset are VSAM file Initially these VSAM file were pointing to driving master catalog then I did the repromergcat from a master catalog to a user catalog Then defined the two level alias The usercat is import connected to the IPLing system mastercat When I do F11 I can see them they are correct usercat It has alias defined to driving master catalog and also to the driving master catalog. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: S0C4 running Disasembler ASMDASM
In 004b01d0df43$4285eb20$c791c160$@comcast.net, on 08/25/2015 at 10:35 AM, michealbutz michealb...@comcast.net said: I would think the S0C4 points to missing DD card Not without an IEC message. The reason code is 4; I'd guess that you have the wrong link/.binder options. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: S0C4 running Disasembler ASMDASM
In e65ptatgm2rjs6p4551qltcf7tr82rt...@4ax.com, on 08/25/2015 at 07:17 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com said: For some reason it thinks R14 (which is the return address to the supervisor) is a save area. Probably R14 is the new save area and the code is setting the forward and back pointers. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog entry not visible
Hi Lizzette The VSAM file belongs to ACF2. The system is getting IPLed but it fails to start ACF2 while it tries to read the VSAM datasets. Nathan On Thursday 27 August 2015, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: Unless you created a process (SYSTEM REXX Comes to mind), no native way to display a dataset from the console. On your new system 1) Does your system IPL? 2) What VSAM datasets are missing? 3) Does TSO come UP. Can you logon to the system? I am not sure what your next steps are. Lizette -Original Message- From: Nathan Astle tcpipat...@gmail.com javascript:; Sent: Aug 26, 2015 8:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:; Subject: Re: Catalog entry not visible Hi I can view the failing dataset using 3.4 from the driving system. The failing dataset are VSAM file Initially these VSAM file were pointing to driving master catalog then I did the repromergcat from a master catalog to a user catalog Then defined the two level alias The usercat is import connected to the IPLing system mastercat When I do F11 I can see them they are correct usercat It has alias defined to driving master catalog and also to the driving master catalog. Is there a way to do list cat command from the console ? Any suggestions ? Nathan On Thursday 27 August 2015, Dan Little dwlit...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Yes it is. On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, michelbutz michealb...@comcast.net javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Is IKJ tso ? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com javascript:; javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Can you do 3.4 on the dataset? If so, when you press PF11 - does it show any details? Is there more than one LPAR involved? Is the Alias and ucat connected if there is more than one MCAT? Can you present the IKJ message (complete text)? There a some reasons a dataset is not found, The JCL is running on a system where the ALIAS does not exist The Data is a catalog entry only and not a physical file. The dataset was cataloged in a MCAT not a UCAT and the MCAT is different from where the dataset was cataloged to where the job ran. Lizette -Original Message- From: Nathan Astle tcpipat...@gmail.com javascript:; javascript:; javascript:; Sent: Aug 26, 2015 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:; javascript:; javascript:; Subject: Catalog entry not visible Hi I have built a new z/OS image where one of our product fails with a IKJ message saying that the dataset is not found. I can still see the usercat where the dataset is catalogued is connected to the master catalog of the new z/OS image The listcat with entry of those alias are defined to the MCAT of xOS image Not sure why it is not visible though I have put the datasets in the CATALOG volume of the new z/OS images. Could someone please shed some light on it Nathan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu javascript:; with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog entry not visible
Is the system in question configured for two-level aliases? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Nathan Astle Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalog entry not visible Hi I can view the failing dataset using 3.4 from the driving system. The failing dataset are VSAM file Initially these VSAM file were pointing to driving master catalog then I did the repromergcat from a master catalog to a user catalog Then defined the two level alias The usercat is import connected to the IPLing system mastercat When I do F11 I can see them they are correct usercat It has alias defined to driving master catalog and also to the driving master catalog. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog entry not visible
Hi yes because we have another set of two level aliases which are being read. On Thursday 27 August 2015, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com wrote: Is the system in question configured for two-level aliases? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:;] On Behalf Of Nathan Astle Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:; Subject: Re: Catalog entry not visible Hi I can view the failing dataset using 3.4 from the driving system. The failing dataset are VSAM file Initially these VSAM file were pointing to driving master catalog then I did the repromergcat from a master catalog to a user catalog Then defined the two level alias The usercat is import connected to the IPLing system mastercat When I do F11 I can see them they are correct usercat It has alias defined to driving master catalog and also to the driving master catalog. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu javascript:; with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog entry not visible
Hi I can view the failing dataset using 3.4 from the driving system. The failing dataset are VSAM file Initially these VSAM file were pointing to driving master catalog then I did the repromergcat from a master catalog to a user catalog Then defined the two level alias The usercat is import connected to the IPLing system mastercat When I do F11 I can see them they are correct usercat It has alias defined to driving master catalog and also to the driving master catalog. Is there a way to do list cat command from the console ? Any suggestions ? Nathan On Thursday 27 August 2015, Dan Little dwlit...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it is. On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, michelbutz michealb...@comcast.net javascript:; wrote: Is IKJ tso ? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Can you do 3.4 on the dataset? If so, when you press PF11 - does it show any details? Is there more than one LPAR involved? Is the Alias and ucat connected if there is more than one MCAT? Can you present the IKJ message (complete text)? There a some reasons a dataset is not found, The JCL is running on a system where the ALIAS does not exist The Data is a catalog entry only and not a physical file. The dataset was cataloged in a MCAT not a UCAT and the MCAT is different from where the dataset was cataloged to where the job ran. Lizette -Original Message- From: Nathan Astle tcpipat...@gmail.com javascript:; javascript:; Sent: Aug 26, 2015 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:; javascript:; Subject: Catalog entry not visible Hi I have built a new z/OS image where one of our product fails with a IKJ message saying that the dataset is not found. I can still see the usercat where the dataset is catalogued is connected to the master catalog of the new z/OS image The listcat with entry of those alias are defined to the MCAT of xOS image Not sure why it is not visible though I have put the datasets in the CATALOG volume of the new z/OS images. Could someone please shed some light on it Nathan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu javascript:; javascript:; with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu javascript:; javascript:; with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu javascript:; with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog entry not visible
Unless you created a process (SYSTEM REXX Comes to mind), no native way to display a dataset from the console. On your new system 1) Does your system IPL? 2) What VSAM datasets are missing? 3) Does TSO come UP. Can you logon to the system? I am not sure what your next steps are. Lizette -Original Message- From: Nathan Astle tcpipat...@gmail.com Sent: Aug 26, 2015 8:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalog entry not visible Hi I can view the failing dataset using 3.4 from the driving system. The failing dataset are VSAM file Initially these VSAM file were pointing to driving master catalog then I did the repromergcat from a master catalog to a user catalog Then defined the two level alias The usercat is import connected to the IPLing system mastercat When I do F11 I can see them they are correct usercat It has alias defined to driving master catalog and also to the driving master catalog. Is there a way to do list cat command from the console ? Any suggestions ? Nathan On Thursday 27 August 2015, Dan Little dwlit...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it is. On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, michelbutz michealb...@comcast.net javascript:; wrote: Is IKJ tso ? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Can you do 3.4 on the dataset? If so, when you press PF11 - does it show any details? Is there more than one LPAR involved? Is the Alias and ucat connected if there is more than one MCAT? Can you present the IKJ message (complete text)? There a some reasons a dataset is not found, The JCL is running on a system where the ALIAS does not exist The Data is a catalog entry only and not a physical file. The dataset was cataloged in a MCAT not a UCAT and the MCAT is different from where the dataset was cataloged to where the job ran. Lizette -Original Message- From: Nathan Astle tcpipat...@gmail.com javascript:; javascript:; Sent: Aug 26, 2015 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:; javascript:; Subject: Catalog entry not visible Hi I have built a new z/OS image where one of our product fails with a IKJ message saying that the dataset is not found. I can still see the usercat where the dataset is catalogued is connected to the master catalog of the new z/OS image The listcat with entry of those alias are defined to the MCAT of xOS image Not sure why it is not visible though I have put the datasets in the CATALOG volume of the new z/OS images. Could someone please shed some light on it Nathan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
