>> And as for the "standard way" to cheat the Cobol table restriction (I'm no
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>> Cobol programmer, sorry): Cheating is cheating. Shudder But it explains
>> at
>> least why IBM agreed to change the code. Thanks.
>>
>
>Not cheating, accomplishing a business need despite the
Maybe it depends on the GDPS level you are running, but in the V3.13 (and
several previous) manuals, appendix D states:
"As a consequence, and to avoid use of the System Logger on the Controlling
systems and any associated allocation of offload or staging data sets that must
be PPRCed for recov
I was only giving thoughts on how COBOL might support something similar to the
PL/I example. Beyond that I have not given the issue a moment of thought, as I
don't have my own personal use case(s) in mind to consider. If you have a
better way at another "implementation layer" you are very welc
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:23:18 -0600, Paul Gilmartin
(000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu) wrote about "Re: "task
level" TIOT & XTIOT? A crazy thought?" (in
<1554048328241551.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>):
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:18:04 +, David W Noon wrote:
[snip]
>> So,
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 00:07:19 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
>I personally don't have a particular use for it, and thus would not myself
>create an RFE requesting it. But based on what I've seen discussed here I was
>thinking they were looking for something like ...
>
Tunnel vision! The feature
I personally don't have a particular use for it, and thus would not myself
create an RFE requesting it. But based on what I've seen discussed here I was
thinking they were looking for something like the following example:
select my-file assign using my-file-name.
01 my-file-name pic x(8).
And what would you want in data-name-1? A DDNAME,like the PL/I? A data set
name? A partial data set name (with some magic for full expansion)? Something
else?
What do you feel, with your selected option for data-name-1, would be some
example uses for this?
Again, for me, just because something
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:18:04 +, David W Noon wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:06:14 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>>>
>>> Simply use PL/I with the TITLE() option on the OPEN statement. ...
>>>
>>> If you really are wedded to COBOL, ask for the language to offer a new
>>> facility in the ENVIRONME
For whatever its worth, the latest COBOL Standard offers the following syntax,
which I believe meets this requirement at the language level:
SELECT file-name-1 ASSIGN USING data-name-1.
"3) The ASSIGN clause specifies the association of the file connector
referenced by file-name-1 to a physic
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:30:40 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>Agree, agree, agree!
>The single TIOT is a limit to "virtualization." ...
>
>To give a practical example, it might be nice to write an executive that would
>ATTACH multiple FTP clients, so one could run a bunch of related file
>transfers
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:06:14 -0600, Paul Gilmartin
(000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu) wrote about "Re: "task
level" TIOT & XTIOT? A crazy thought?" (in
<2517422968801667.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>):
[snip]
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:26:27 +, David W Noon wrote:
>>
>> S
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:38:22 -0600, John Mckown
(john.archie.mck...@gmail.com) wrote about "Re: "task level" TIOT &
XTIOT? A crazy thought?" (in
):
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:26 PM, David W Noon <
> 013a910fd252-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
[snip]
>> If you really are wedded to COBO
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:57:05 -0600, Greg Dyck wrote:
>On 1/10/2017 11:30 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
>> The single TIOT is a limit to "virtualization."
>
>Certainly the function could be useful. While conceptually it seems
>easy to do, where the rubber meets the road in allocation, access
>methods,
Most of our tape are logical volumes residing in an IBM VTS
and they are SMS managed. Our RMM EDGRMMxx parm of RETAINBY
is set to volume and we use RETENTION METHOD of VRSEL.
I want a certain set of volumes to be managed by RETAINBY
SET. Can this be done?
FIRST TENNESSEE
Confidentiality noti
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:32:27 -0600, John McKown wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:12 AM, R.S. wrote:
>
>> Of course I can (and I do) "cd /yyy/target/dir" before pax -r, but I can't
>> believe it's the only option to skin the cat.
>
>You only want a clew (older English)? The clew is: look at the -
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:26 PM, David W Noon <
013a910fd252-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:27:12 -0600, John Mckown
> (john.archie.mck...@gmail.com) wrote about ""task level" TIOT & XTIOT? A
> crazy thought?" (in
> ):
>
> [snip]
> > So, have you ever wanted to
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:27:12 -0600, John Mckown
(john.archie.mck...@gmail.com) wrote about ""task level" TIOT & XTIOT? A
crazy thought?" (in
):
[snip]
> So, have you ever wanted to run multiple, concurrent, executions of some
> program which does not accept an alternative DD name list? For instanc
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>
>
> >A frequent, even standard way to get past the si
On 1/10/2017 11:30 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The single TIOT is a limit to "virtualization."
Certainly the function could be useful. While conceptually it seems
easy to do, where the rubber meets the road in allocation, access
methods, SMF accounting, and more, it would be a very
disruptive/
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:12 AM, R.S.
wrote:
> The following scenario:
> pax archive created in some directory, let's say /aaa/bbb (many files and
> subdirectories here)
> the resulting archive is /TEST.pax
>
> I'm able to restore the archive using the following command:
> pax -r -peW -f /TEST.p
Agree, agree, agree!
The single TIOT is a limit to "virtualization." I could write an "executive" to
run multiple application programs simultaneously as a single jobstep with
separate TCBs. The usefulness of a general such solution is limited by the lack
of independent DD's for each program. Ye
I'm confused and mystified. We run GDPS for DR on a standalone sysplex. I'm not
sure what (if anything) we do with logger there, but the task is definitely
running on the K system.
IXG601I 09.19.25 LOGGER DISPLAY
SYSTEM LOGGER STATUS
SYSTEM SYSTEM LOGGER STATUS
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The following scenario:
pax archive created in some directory, let's say /aaa/bbb (many files
and subdirectories here)
the resulting archive is /TEST.pax
I'm able to restore the archive using the following command:
pax -r -peW -f /TEST.pax
However the command above restores the archive in a *c
The case I know best is JES2, which now includes tasks JES2AUX and JES2MON. The
classic single-task JES2 problem was a hang on one member of a MAS. All other
systems complained about access to the checkpoint, while the hung system
couldn't even respond to simple commands. It's hung, after all. A
On Jan 10, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Clark Morris wrote:
>
> 7070 was decimal. Do you mean 7090 which was 36 bit word binary?
Yes, I mistyped it.
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curtis@austin.utexas.edu (Pew, Curtis G) wrote:
>My wife and I saw the movie Hidden Figures last Saturday, and I highly
>recommend it. Mentioning this here seems appropriate, since an IBM 7070 and
>FORTRAN play a significant
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:27:12 -0600, John McKown wrote:
>
>So, have you ever wanted to run multiple, concurrent, executions of some
>program which does not accept an alternative DD name list? For instance,
>some in-house COBOL program. Wouldn't it be kind of nice to be able to
>specify some paramete
Potentially usermods that are in the public domain could qualify if you
interpret "install" loosely. :-)
Bob
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Hi
There was a freeware scheduler which uses SMP/E but I don't remember.
Does anyone know ?
On Jan 10, 2017 9:56 PM, "R.S." wrote:
> W dniu 2017-01-10 o 17:16, Nathan Astle pisze:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Are there any freeware product which uses SMP/E to install.
>>
> There are several IBM products whic
W dniu 2017-01-10 o 17:16, Nathan Astle pisze:
Hi
Are there any freeware product which uses SMP/E to install.
There are several IBM products which are free of charge.
While it's not the same as freeware, every legal z/OS user can download
it and install.
Majority of the products are available
Nathan Astle wrote:
Hi
Are there any freeware product which uses SMP/E to install.
Please point me
Nathan
Java for z/OS fits this description. You can order it from Shopz and
get it over the net, on DVD, or on tape.
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Are there any freeware product which uses SMP/E to install.
Please point me
Nathan
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Pommier, Rex wrote:
>No I didn't need to use TOLerate. I'm assuming you meant TOL(ENQF).
Ok. thanks, I was not sure what type of COPY you used, but thanks.
> If I would need to use TOL(IOER) I have bigger problems. :-)
Indeed. To tolerate IO errors is asking for trouble... I will not toler
Liz you understood it correct
On Jan 10, 2017 7:56 PM, "Lizette Koehler" wrote:
> If I understand your question.
>
> Take DFHSM. It can be one address space or multiple Address Spaces
> (MASH). The benefit to multiple address spaces is you could use WLM to
> control which one gets more or less
I had to explain the "HAL" name in 2001 A Space Odyssey, legend says it was a
one-letter shift from IBM, but that was denied by the writers :-)
We're so old the young generation can't even appreciate our fiction :-)
Len Rugen
University of Missouri
Division of Information Technology
Systems &
If I understand your question.
Take DFHSM. It can be one address space or multiple Address Spaces (MASH). The
benefit to multiple address spaces is you could use WLM to control which one
gets more or less priority in the system. So rather than one large DFHSM
address space, you could have, as
Elardus,
No I didn't need to use TOLerate. I'm assuming you meant TOL(ENQF). If I
would need to use TOL(IOER) I have bigger problems. :-) And I just looked it
up, it appears that TOL(ENQF) isn't even a viable option on a COPY FULL command.
Rex
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Historically there was an immediate expansion of the total amount of 31-bit
private storage available to the product - these days with 64-bit storage
functionality, the reason for horizontal private expansion (or use of
dataspaces) is much reduced.
There is also lots of architectural adv
My wife and I saw the movie “Hidden Figures” last Saturday, and I highly
recommend it. Mentioning this here seems appropriate, since an IBM 7070 and
FORTRAN play a significant role in the narrative.
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OK, I know that there can be multiple TIOTs in a single address space. I
know this because the documentation the IEFUJI says that it can do I/O to a
data set either by doing a DYNALLOC on it, or by putting the DD in the
initiator procedure.
So, have you ever wanted to run multiple, concurrent, exe
Last I heard, SSRANGE was deprecated for production use due to high overhean.
Yes, a deliberate area left specifically to catch any overflow and for no other
purpose, similar to a patch-area.
Technique arises before SSRANGE exists. If SSRANGE were subsequently used, it
would/could catch the p
Hi
A product having one address space for monitoring various components like
network, Db2, CICS and multiple address space to monitor a single component
Is there any advantage on having multiple address space compared with
sjngle address space ?
Peter
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We currently use your Tomcat 7 port for dev but we're going to move to
Jetty for technical reasons.
Java 8 gives us better options WRT libraries. We can ditch Joda for the
JRE datatime package and use modern techniques like lamdas. Not to
mention the other reasons
others have posted t
Hi Steve,
Thanks fort the hint.
The 2 apars seem (to me) to solve a situation caused by the new ALLOWACCESS(NO)
parameter.
Kees.
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Yes, a deliberate area left specifically to catch any overflow and for no other
purpose, similar to a patch-area.
Technique arises before SSRANGE exists. If SSRANGE were subsequently used, it
would/could catch the problem, but it is not as simple as the APAR text makes
out (from memory of the t
There is a conflation of two issues, with the first being in two parts.
Issue 1) Part a) Can't define enough storage for a table due to COBOL limits.
This is only an issue for "old" programs, where limits for table-size were
imposed by the compiler. The "expedient" approach was to define consecu
These new function APARs may shed some light: OA50781 and OA50775
They talk about secondary controlling systems (KSYS) being present within
the SYSPLEX, and IPL order.
I hope this helps!
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 5:24 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM <
kees.verno...@klm.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We
Hi Kees -
While I don't have an answer for your question, I do see a very similar
question posed to the "GDPS User Community" forum. Any GDPS questions I
have, I ask there.
You should be able to search for that community from here:
https://apps.na.collabserv.com/communities
It is restricted, so you
Hello,
We run GDPS V3R13 and z/OS V2.2.
I am reading the GDPS recommendations (in the GDPS/PPRC V3R13 Installation and
Customization Guide) about System Logger, which, as seems usual with each GDPS
release, have changed again.
Now I read some confusing and/or contradicting information (Ch 2.6).
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>(Trying again; trying not to fumble the links this time.)
That is all right. Only *after* I clicked, then I see this 'Make sure the web
address http://http is correct.'
Nasty habit of mine to click without looking! ;-)
... the same as putting your hand in a hole to see i
>A frequent, even standard way to get past the size limit of a COBOL array, or
>more appropriately table, was to define more "empty" space after it. Since
>subscript bounds checking was always turned off for performance reasons, you
>could effectively address substantially larger than the size
Gibney, Dave wrote:
>A frequent, even standard way to get past the size limit of a COBOL array, or
>more appropriately table, was to define more "empty" space after it. Since
>subscript bounds checking was always turned off for performance reasons, you
>could effectively address substantially
A frequent, even standard way to get past the size limit of a COBOL array, or
more appropriately table, was to define more "empty" space after it. Since
subscript bounds checking was always turned off for performance reasons, you
could effectively address substantially larger than the size limi
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