Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement

2017-03-08 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: 08 March, 2017 19:22 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement > > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 11:32:48 -0600, John McKown wrote: > >

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
A snippet from Robert's presentation To help replace BPX.DEFAULT.USER, z/OS 1.11 introduced the FACILITY class profile BPX.UNIQUE.USER. Defining this newer profile causes RACF to automatically add OMVS segments and assign ids to users and groups that do not already have segments. RACF creates

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
What version of z/OS is this on? I am thinking that RACF (or your SAF) is using an auto assign of the UID. There was a change when you had to specify the UID in the OMVS Segment, then a change happened and the system went from BPX.UNIQUE.USER To BPX.NEXT.USER See Robert H's very nice

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > So do OMVS segments get "auto-created?" > > I run ALU ROMVSNO NOOMVS and then LU ROMVSNO OMVS. I get > > NO OMVS INFORMATION > > Then I run a program that ought to require an OMVS segment. It runs to a > normal completion.

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
So do OMVS segments get "auto-created?" I run ALU ROMVSNO NOOMVS and then LU ROMVSNO OMVS. I get NO OMVS INFORMATION Then I run a program that ought to require an OMVS segment. It runs to a normal completion. I then do another LU ROMVSNO OMVS and I get OMVS INFORMATION

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
Thank you -- you know who you are -- ALU Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 5:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Which C library functions imply dub? So

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
So how do I delete the darned thing? From IBMUSER I enter AU ROMVSNO NOOMVS And I get IKJ56702I INVALID SEGMENT, NOOMVS IKJ56703A REENTER THIS OPERAND - Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
Sure enough: OMVS INFORMATION UID= 990009 HOME= /u PROGRAM= /bin/sh *** Have to tell IBM Dallas that there is a defect in their ADDUROM script: creates an OMVS segment even if you say No. Charles -Original Message-

Mobile Workload Pricing

2017-03-08 Thread Frank Swarbrick
There hasn't been much (any?) discussion here on MWP since it was announced in May 2014. Is anyone doing this? What methodology did you choose to allow you to track mobile vs. non-mobile "transactions"? Why did you choose that method? Which subsystems are you doing MWP for? Thanks! Frank

Re: GSE UK - Large Systems Meeting

2017-03-08 Thread Bill Woodger
Thanks. After a brief period of DNS telling me the site didn't exist, it works. But, the agenda is still the same link. Just a clarification, I wasn't trying to suggest GSE wouldn't let me attend, which I now see would be a reasonable interpretation of what I wrote :-) I was putting heavy

Re: GSE UK - Large Systems Meeting

2017-03-08 Thread Clem Clarke
Same! Here's a link to the main webpage: http://www.gse.org.uk/mainsite/content/content_events.php And a link to the news page which has more of a description. Clement Clarke, Author of Jol, JCL+ http://www.oscar-jol.com/ Bill Woodger wrote: Well, it could be just me but I get 366k of

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
No I did not. Thanks. Will re-do. I am not a RACF command expert, obviously.  CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity. Original message From: "Gibney, Dave" Date: 3/8/17 4:02 PM (GMT-08:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Which C library

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Tony Harminc
On 8 March 2017 at 18:51, Charles Mills wrote: > Am I confused? This userid has no OMVS segment, right? Why am I having so > much success? What am I missing? Did you put OMVS on your LU command? When I issue LU OMVS for such a user, the last line is NO OMVS INFORMATION You

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
Did you use LU userid OMVS to be sure and request the OMVS segment? I would guess that your installation uses the auto generation of OMVS segments that replaced the default omvs segment support. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
Well, I have created a userid (cleverly named ROMVSNO) with no OMVS segment and I am getting way into the program before terminating due to other things I have not yet set up. More C library functions than I care to count, and TCP/IP sendto(). Am I confused? This userid has no OMVS

Re: Passings

2017-03-08 Thread scott Ford
Jerry, I would say your one fortunate person to have someone mentor you like that. Sorry he passed.. Regards, Scott On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:51 PM Edward Finnell < 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Did an obituary ever get posted? I tried obituaries.com and ancestry.com

Re: Passings

2017-03-08 Thread Edward Finnell
Did an obituary ever get posted? I tried obituaries.com and ancestry.com to no avail. In a message dated 3/8/2017 3:40:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, jcal...@narsil.org writes: I've never met a finer human being, and I miss him terribly

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
Two words: punched cards. Numbers on punched cards were "big-endian." IBM was the dominant power in tabulating machines and never wanted to let that advantage slip away. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 15:13:59 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 14:32:10 -0600, John McKown wrote: >> >>one reason that programmers love >>packed rather than binary is that they can read it directly in the hex >>dump. Said dump being far more prevalent tool for debugging in the far

Re: Passings

2017-03-08 Thread Jerry Callen
(A day late & a dollar short; I just noticed this.) Dave (AKA "dammital" or "DBA") and I go WAY back; I met him as a freshman at Florida Technological University in 1972. He took me under his wing and mentored me, introducing me to APL (on an IBM 1130), formal language specification, compiler

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 14:32:10 -0600, John McKown wrote: >> >> AP goes right to left because it would otherwise have to do more work to >> propagate carry. > >​Right. But it could go to the left if the nybbles in the packed decimal >number were in reverse order, with the sign nybble being the first

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 11:33:31 -0700, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > >It probably save hardware to decrement as well as increment in > >accessing storage. Consider that CLC goes left-to-right but >

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 11:33:31 -0700, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >It probably save hardware to decrement as well as increment in >accessing storage. Consider that CLC goes left-to-right but >AP goes right-to-left. AP goes right to left because it would otherwise have to do more work to propagate

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread Phil Smith
Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Um. No. Not unless the top halves and bottom halves are identical. I said it wrong. What I meant is, if you expect a halfword and I pass a fullword, you’ll see zero for values up to 65K. Then you’ll start seeing values mod(65K). So you’ll *notice* right away. Similarly,

Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement

2017-03-08 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Okay, "Close enough for Government Work!" :) Still, trying to continue that string.. Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 UFIT University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent:

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-03-08, at 11:08, Tom Marchant wrote: > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 09:31:53 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >> an 8-bit processor could do 32-bit arithmetic by nibbling off one byte of it >> at a time. > > ITYM "had to" rather than "could". > It probably save hardware to decrement as well as

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-03-08, at 09:41, Phil Smith wrote: > Charles Mills wrote: >> One thing about little-endian I have observed of relevance to software >> writers: if I expect you to pass me a halfword and instead you pass me a >> fullword, then the code will probably work most of the time. Whether that is

Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement

2017-03-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 11:32:48 -0600, John McKown wrote: > >> [Default] On 8 Mar 2017 07:17:56 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main >> ajn...@ufl.edu (Nims,Alva John , Al) wrote: >> >> >My lousy $0.02 on this: >> >1. 71? Column 71 is the old "Continuation" column in JCL. >> >2. How would you code a 71

Force uninstall of CISCO Anyconnect VPN Client

2017-03-08 Thread Binyamin Dissen
My CISCO anyconnect got stuck, and I attempted an uninstall/reinstall cycle (which has worked in the past) but something screwed up and it refuses to allow me to reinstall (demanding a reboot, which I have done several times). Any other DALLAS user run into this problem? The CISCO support site

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 09:31:53 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >an 8-bit processor could do 32-bit arithmetic by nibbling off one byte of it >at a time. ITYM "had to" rather than "could". -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Don Poitras wrote: > And I suppose, you could fail to dub if you don't have a large > enough region or who knows what else? At least querydub is going > to let you gracefully handle a majority of the customer configuration > errors that result in

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Don Poitras
And I suppose, you could fail to dub if you don't have a large enough region or who knows what else? At least querydub is going to let you gracefully handle a majority of the customer configuration errors that result in the 2 a.m. calls where your customer support has to ask, "have you defined an

Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement

2017-03-08 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Clark Morris wrote: > [Default] On 8 Mar 2017 07:17:56 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > ajn...@ufl.edu (Nims,Alva John , Al) wrote: > > >My lousy $0.02 on this: > >1. 71? Column 71 is the old "Continuation" column in JCL. > >2. How

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
Yeah, I have to agree with "liability" except in the cases where valid values above 32K or 64K are impossible. (The length of a command entered on a single "punched card" for example.) And no, @Gil, that is not your cue for a rant on long LRECL SYSIN datasets! > allow per-page choice of

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Tony Harminc
On 8 March 2017 at 11:20, Don Poitras wrote: > That's what querydub tells you. Well, kind of... > --- > QDB_DUB_MAY_FAIL The task has not been dubbed; an attempt to dub the > task may fail. The most likely reason for failure may be a missing or > incomplete user security

Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement

2017-03-08 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 8 Mar 2017 07:17:56 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ajn...@ufl.edu (Nims,Alva John , Al) wrote: >My lousy $0.02 on this: >1. 71? Column 71 is the old "Continuation" column in JCL. >2. How would you code a 71 character DLM='-71 Char' when you already >have to code "//name DD

Re: Problem Generating CA-7 SASSBSTR Batch LJOB Output

2017-03-08 Thread Jeffrey Holst
If you read the documentation, DSNPFX must match the DSNPFX for the BATCHI#n and BATCHO#n datasets that are defined to the CA7 started task. If DSNPFX is not specified, the prefix specified for the COMMDS is used. DSNPFX need only be specified if those prefixes do not match. There is no intent

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread Phil Smith
Charles Mills wrote: >One thing about little-endian I have observed of relevance to software >writers: if I expect you to pass me a halfword and instead you pass me a >fullword, then the code will probably work most of the time. Whether that is a >benefit or a liability depends upon one's point

Re: curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
Our civil notation is big-endian but of course mental arithmetic is little-endian: to compute 456 + 789 the mental exercise is 6 + 9 = 15, write down the 5, 1 + 5 + 8 = 14, ... I don't know the answer to your question. The S/360 was the first computer I learned at the hardware level, so

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Don Poitras
That's what querydub tells you. --- QDB_DUB_MAY_FAIL The task has not been dubbed; an attempt to dub the task may fail. The most likely reason for failure may be a missing or incomplete user security profile; or the lack of an OMVS segment. --- If the spot you put it in reports that the

Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement

2017-03-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-03-08 o 14:02, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM pisze: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: 08 March, 2017 13:43 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement W dniu

curious: why S/360 & decendants are "big endian".

2017-03-08 Thread John McKown
This is more a Friday type topic. But I'm curious about why the original designers of the S/360 went with "big endian" instead of "small endian"? The _only_ reason that I can think of is because our arithmetic "system" is "big endian". The more I think about it, the more Intel's "little endian"

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
> I understood the original question to be how to avoid OMVS Not exactly. (I love OMVS!) For the original requirement I am going to take the liberty of quoting here @Tony Harminc's explanation of the problem. > Back 10+ years ago our problem was that we'd ship our product to a new > customer,

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread David Griffiths1
Long time ago now but I think I had to avoid sprintf because it required __cinit and that in turn created a link to the calling TCB.. Cheers, Dave Griffiths z/OS Developer IBM United Kingdom Limited, Hursley Park, Winchester, SO21 2JN, UK From: John McKown

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 14:28:50 +, David Griffiths1 wrote: >I understood the original question to be how to avoid OMVS and you almost >certainly need OMVS for printf. For Metal C I wrote my own printf subset >that calls WTO - you at least have varargs. > I understood the original question

Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement

2017-03-08 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
My lousy $0.02 on this: 1. 71? Column 71 is the old "Continuation" column in JCL. 2. How would you code a 71 character DLM='-71 Char' when you already have to code "//name DD DATA,DLM='..." in the JCL, I HATE having to continue quoted strings, I never get it right! Al Nims Systems

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Don Poitras
What Unix service would get called from printf? I was curious, so I wrote a simple program: --- #include #include #define _POSIX_SOURCE #include

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 8:28 AM, David Griffiths1 < david_griffit...@uk.ibm.com> wrote: > I understood the original question to be how to avoid OMVS and you almost > certainly need OMVS for printf. For Metal C I wrote my own printf subset > that calls WTO - you at least have varargs. > ​Hum, I

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread David Griffiths1
I understood the original question to be how to avoid OMVS and you almost certainly need OMVS for printf. For Metal C I wrote my own printf subset that calls WTO - you at least have varargs. Cheers, Dave Griffiths z/OS Developer IBM United Kingdom Limited, Hursley Park, Winchester, SO21 2JN,

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread David Crayford
On 8/03/2017 9:15 PM, David Griffiths1 wrote: Hi, not sure of the definitive answer but you can probably take a guess by comparing with the Metal C library. By definition Metal C calls don't require access to the unix kernel. In fact if you don't want to connect to OMVS why not use Metal C

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 13:15:39 +, David Griffiths1 wrote: >By definition Metal C calls don't >require access to the unix kernel. Really? I thought that "by definition" Metal C doesn't require LE. -- Tom Marchant -- For

Re: Can you use IDCAMS REPRO on zFS files

2017-03-08 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Excellent info Dana thanks for sharing Carmen - Original Message - From: "Dana Mitchell" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:33:15 PM Subject: Re: Can you use IDCAMS REPRO on zFS files I have a step like this in each of my zfs clone

Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement

2017-03-08 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Ok, you win. But as long as we have to distinguish all our production jobnames and all our production sysinlibrary names with 8 characters, I think 18 DLM characters for the 3 DLM strings we use yearly is very wealthy. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Which C library functions imply dub?

2017-03-08 Thread David Griffiths1
Hi, not sure of the definitive answer but you can probably take a guess by comparing with the Metal C library. By definition Metal C calls don't require access to the unix kernel. In fact if you don't want to connect to OMVS why not use Metal C anyway? Cheers, Dave Griffiths z/OS Developer

Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement

2017-03-08 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
Classification: Public I think: +1+2+3+4+5+6+7-- //SYSIN DD DATA, // DLM=AVERYLONGDELIMITERSTRINGCANONLYBEGINAT16ANDREACHUNTILCOL71PLUS06 So the extra 6 characters bring it to 63 (assuming my maths is correct!). Andy Styles z/Series

Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement

2017-03-08 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: 08 March, 2017 13:43 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement > > W dniu 2017-03-08 o 01:15, Paul Gilmartin pisze: > > On Tue, 21

Re: HCM Simulator for training?

2017-03-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-03-08 o 13:19, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) pisze: Is there an HMC simulator that can be used to train Sysprogs and operators? Yes, three possibilities: 1. Use your old/backup/sandbox machine 2. Get the education from some company (BTDT) 3. Use IBM machines, probably in IBM premises. --

Re: z/OS 2.3 preview announcement

2017-03-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-03-08 o 01:15, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 15:13:32 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: Did anyone notice the z/OS 2.3 preview announcement today? http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/5/897/ENUS217-085/index.html_locale=en I found this

Re: HCM Simulator for training?

2017-03-08 Thread Jousma, David
Not aware of one, but what you could do is define a very specific role on your HMC that only has access to a specific system of your choice (stand alone test lpar?), and the ability to activate/deactivate it, etc. I was forced to set this up for our operations staff due to an audit finding

HCM Simulator for training?

2017-03-08 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Is there an HMC simulator that can be used to train Sysprogs and operators? -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and

Re: CA acquires Veracode.

2017-03-08 Thread Jantje.
Sincere condolences to the people at Veracode... Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN